DUST Search - No love for Minmitar?

Atiim wrote:

da GAND wrote:

Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure.

Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers.

*Sigh*

Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. I've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference

Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting.

But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles.


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Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2788	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:27:00 - [1] - Quote Everyone is so quick to blame it on the rewards, but not many care to acknowledge that the Amarr were in the process of a giant surge gathering that just so happened to coincide with the event, or that both of those just so happened to coincide with the release of Uprising 1.5 where things could of been changed. As far as the rewards though, both get their races prototype suits - I assume the Minmatar love their prototype just as much as the Amarr? Amarr get their prototype assault scrambler rifle, Minmatar get their prototype mass driver - I don't know about you, but I see many more mass drivers than I do assault scrambler rifles. And then equipment, which is all equally important. I'm just not buying the "Minmatar rewards suck so no ones playing for us" thing. You said it yourself, a lot of squads on the Amarr side. Perhaps the Amarr have been organizing a way to form the most squads? Perhaps you should try and get the Minmatar to squad up? I hear the Tribal Voices channel is pushing to get Minmatar supporters.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2789	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:33:00 - [2] - Quote I'll give you guys another tips, DON'T Q-SYNC. The few times I see a organized squad on the Minmatar side, most the time they are q-synced. This is bad, why? Because you are putting so many resources into securing one district when you could be uses them to secure two or three districts in the same time span. I know in PIE Ground Deployment we're confident enough in our 6 man squads to send them each to different districts to claim the more districts in the same time span.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2790	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:39:00 - [3] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back. I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2790	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:40:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks. Prima Gallicus are the worst, those guys are good!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2790	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:47:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: da GAND wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. Sigh Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. I've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Well first of all, this could of been a great post if not for that unnecessary insult at the end. Anyways, you have a point here, but let me let you in on a little secret: If it weren't for True Adamance, Maikyl Metsar, and myself, PIE wouldn't have that big of an impact Dust side. I used to be like you, "One guy can only make so much of a differene." And I didn't like that, so you know what I did? I searched for a long standing EVE corporation that had great standing with Amarr, and PIE was the obvious answer. I then made it a point to make sure everyone here knew of PIE and the good side of Amarr, recruited some new members, and rallied a bunch of supporters. The same for the other guys. Now pretty much everyone here knows PIE and knows if you go to PIE Ground Deployment you will find dozens of Dust players looking for a squad for Amarr FW and EVE pilots on stand by waiting for orbital requests. One guy can only make so much of a difference? Ha! Look, if you are serious about FW do what I did, do what True Adamance did. Search for a long standing Minmatar corporation in EVE, try to get a Dust division going if they haven't already, rally people to your cause, and kick-ass. That's all there is to it! And truthfully, I'd love it if you or someone took the initiative and did this because I really want an arch-nemesis corporation for PIE in Dust.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2793	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:51:00 - [6] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3. It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event. But you are losing out on potential districts. I mean, if you are only in this for the rewards then yeah, q-sync to guarantee you get that winning percentage. But over on the Amarr side of things, we were attacking as many districts as we can to flip over the tide faster and we'll continue to attack as many districts as we can to ensure that every gain you make will quickly fall back to us. And in the 6 man squads I'm in, we're more than able to win all our battles. And heck, we'll even make it a close fight against those who are q-synced, maybe even win, but those matches are few and far between because they're not attacking that many districts.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2793	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:00:00 - [7] - Quote Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2794	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:24:00 - [8] - Quote Atiim wrote: Now granted, I won't give it to them. But I will applaud and respect their efforts and success To all of my brothers on the Gallente/Mimmitar side: 1.) Don't Q-sync. That is a waste of valubale resources 2.) Have better organization 3.) Push harder 4.) DO NOT QQ AND GIVE UP! Heck, that's all I really wanted to hear! And those are some great tips! For the record, I still think there is something really fishy going on with FW that is preventing the Minmatar and Gallente from reclaiming land, and I'm still pushing to make sure CCP is aware. Though this is the same thing that was happening when Minmatar/Gallente were up 99% for a month, yet just a moment ago I saw the Minmatar go up to 19% in Heimatar. Bravo, the Amarr never got up that much when we were in the slumps! Of course, by tonight it'll be back down to 1% or 0% for you!
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2795	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:52:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: Are there any Minmatar RP corps in Dust that are good? If I wasn't in Dust Core, I'd make one and find a way to contact some Minmatar EVE corps so we could get organization like PIE Inc. I feel like most of the Minmatar(myself including) lone wolf a lot in FW just because a lot of people never really wanted to play FW that much. FW used to be the place I could go for fun competition and better rewards with ISK and SP. Honestly FW is more my thing than Pub Matches. Pub matches are fun something quick or when I can't get into FW. Gradient is the Electus Matari Dust arm. They are the counterparts to PIE if ever there was one. They recruit infrequently here and I have never seen them in match though.... And that's probably who you should get in contact with. PIE's ground side wasn't that much when True Adamance and I joined. We joined with the sole intention of raising it up under the banner of an established corporation (and it's not just us two). That is honestly what you should do (or anyone else who cares enough about Minmatar FW). Instead of creating your own brand new Minmatar FW corporation for Dust, get in contact with the Minmatar FW corporations in EVE who have been doing it for awhile and try to get their Dust side of things going. Dust side FW is still relatively new (it didn't really start until Uprising), so you're probably not going to find an EVE corp that already has an established Dust side in FW, so do be afraid to try and upstart one within one of those corps.