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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2789
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:33:00 -
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I'll give you guys another tips, DON'T Q-SYNC. The few times I see a organized squad on the Minmatar side, most the time they are q-synced. This is bad, why? Because you are putting so many resources into securing one district when you could be uses them to secure two or three districts in the same time span. I know in PIE Ground Deployment we're confident enough in our 6 man squads to send them each to different districts to claim the more districts in the same time span. |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
78
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:34:00 -
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Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back.
I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
186
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:36:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. *Sigh*
Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference
Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting.
But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2996
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:37:00 -
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Atiim wrote:da GAND wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. *Sigh* Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2790
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:39:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back.
I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in!
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2790
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks.
Prima Gallicus are the worst, those guys are good! |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
188
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:40:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:da GAND wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. *Sigh* Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks. Oh you replied? Man that was fast. Do you work for Jimmy John's IRL?
And yes I am aware of these two corps. But I've yet to see them in action
200k ISK to the person who gives me thier PUB chats though. (It's hard finding FW channels that are organized) |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY
79
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:45:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back.
I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in!
Haha exactly! You'd be surprised how many times I see people leave battle before they even deploy onto the ground or when the enemy gets all the objectives. It's like yeah they got then all or most but 9/10 they don't have all of them guarded. Go hack some objectives while they're preoccupied. I know as soon as I deploy I run to the farthest objective, like E on the new map. I run all the way there and capture it, drop a link nearby, maybe switch suits and drop RE, guard for a little bit then take my butt to another objective.
It's hard to find Minmatar players that have the same mind frame. At least in game. It's mostly on the forums. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
1272
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:45:00 -
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I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3.
It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2790
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:da GAND wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. *Sigh* Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. I've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Well first of all, this could of been a great post if not for that unnecessary insult at the end.
Anyways, you have a point here, but let me let you in on a little secret: If it weren't for True Adamance, Maikyl Metsar, and myself, PIE wouldn't have that big of an impact Dust side. I used to be like you, "One guy can only make so much of a differene." And I didn't like that, so you know what I did? I searched for a long standing EVE corporation that had great standing with Amarr, and PIE was the obvious answer. I then made it a point to make sure everyone here knew of PIE and the good side of Amarr, recruited some new members, and rallied a bunch of supporters. The same for the other guys. Now pretty much everyone here knows PIE and knows if you go to PIE Ground Deployment you will find dozens of Dust players looking for a squad for Amarr FW and EVE pilots on stand by waiting for orbital requests.
One guy can only make so much of a difference? Ha! Look, if you are serious about FW do what I did, do what True Adamance did. Search for a long standing Minmatar corporation in EVE, try to get a Dust division going if they haven't already, rally people to your cause, and kick-ass. That's all there is to it! And truthfully, I'd love it if you or someone took the initiative and did this because I really want an arch-nemesis corporation for PIE in Dust. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3000
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:49:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Aria Gomes wrote:Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back.
I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in! That's how we put the fear into RestlessSpirits for that one week. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2793
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:51:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3.
It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event. But you are losing out on potential districts. I mean, if you are only in this for the rewards then yeah, q-sync to guarantee you get that winning percentage. But over on the Amarr side of things, we were attacking as many districts as we can to flip over the tide faster and we'll continue to attack as many districts as we can to ensure that every gain you make will quickly fall back to us. And in the 6 man squads I'm in, we're more than able to win all our battles. And heck, we'll even make it a close fight against those who are q-synced, maybe even win, but those matches are few and far between because they're not attacking that many districts. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3000
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:54:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3.
It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event.
As you were in denial about how much support you had last month...
I mean I had people going off their rockers about how much better they were than me because they were winning FW both on the ground and in the sky... they didn't stop to consider 9 loyal corps they had vs our 4.
Now we are pushing in the skies and winning on the ground. We may have more support now, but it has shown me where you guys were coming from. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3000
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:55:00 -
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3000 LIKES BITCHES! |
da GAND
High-Damage Public Disorder.
272
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:3000 LIKES BITCHES!
Ummmm congrats?..... |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3000
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:58:00 -
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da GAND wrote:True Adamance wrote:3000 LIKES BITCHES! Ummmm congrats?..... Thanks, but back to the main topic. |
Henry FitzEmpress
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
41
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Posted - 2013.10.14 19:59:00 -
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Atiim wrote:True Adamance wrote:Atiim wrote:da GAND wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. *Sigh* Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks. Oh you replied? Man that was fast. Do you work for Jimmy John's IRL? And yes I am aware of these two corps. But I've yet to see them in action 200k ISK to the person who gives me thier PUB chats though. (It's hard finding FW channels that are organized) Turalyon 514 public chat is simply: Turalyon |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2793
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:00:00 -
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Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
807
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:3000 LIKES BITCHES! Ha^ |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3001
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:03:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums...... |
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
807
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums...... TBH some proto LR's would of been alot nicer |
da GAND
High-Damage Public Disorder.
273
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:07:00 -
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Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? |
da GAND
High-Damage Public Disorder.
273
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:08:00 -
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Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
189
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:14:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:As True Adamance stated, the willingness and excitement of players to join PIE Ground Deployment and help fight for the Amarr is what turned the tide of FW.
At this point it sounds as if the naysayers are simply grasping at straws to whine about how we pulled ahead and pushed the Minmatar out. While the Minmatar had 100% control, you didn't see many Amarr loyalist making excuses or finding things to groan about, we simply silently continued to fight for our Empire. The moment we turn the tide in our favour and reclaim our land, we are accused of stacked teams, and people simply wanting the Amarr awards more than the other factions' .
I'm sorry, but these threads are simply cleverly disguised QQ threads on how we reclaimed OUR space.
You want it back?
Get organized Get EVE support Stop b******* about it Fight for it Yeah, I think we (Gallente/Mimmitar) owned around 90% of the FW systems. Now that rewards are involved and stuff like that and FW matters, the Amarr has become the new FOTM. (Kinda like how Gallente/Mimmitar was the old FOTM)
However, it would be childish and idiotic to not applaud PIEs efforts (well actually Aero, Adamance, and the other dude who's name I just forgot). They are the ones who really pushed forward and stuck to their guns all throughout FW, even when they were at a disadvantage. They didn't scream at CCP and make QQ threads. And now that they finally have support an the upper hand after months of hard work and dedication, they deserve to have the victory\
Now granted, I won't give it to them. But I will applaud and respect their efforts and success |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
189
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:17:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME THIER PUB CHATS! |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
807
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:21:00 -
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Atiim wrote:da GAND wrote:Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? SOMEBODY PLEASE GIVE ME THIER PUB CHATS! Tribal Voices |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
190
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums...... 500+ Mill can anyone beat that? 30+ Tanks lost 100+ Dropsuits and gear 2 Harbinger BattleCruisers 1 Navy Omen 2 Coercer 5 Tormentors 43 of my most shinest tanks destroyed 25 Limbui gone. 125 Wikomis Lost 3 Thales totaled 50 Proto dropsuits destroyed
512,344,603 ISK total. Yeah your right the rewards aren't even worth that much. But it seems that we are one of the few people who are dedicated for a cause.
Just kidding it's more like 22 Mil but you still get the point
edit: I dont play EVE, so I havent lost a starship yet |
Henry FitzEmpress
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
41
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:22:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? Hey da Gand, hope all is well.
Wanted to make sure there wasn't a misunderstanding....Turalyon is a Gallente FW corporation. Dust side I don't have any issues with fighting for Minmatar also. But it's mostly Gallente.
I don't know much about Eve side but I'm pretty sure the Eve pilots are exclusively Gallente supporting. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2794
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:24:00 -
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Atiim wrote: Now granted, I won't give it to them. But I will applaud and respect their efforts and success
To all of my brothers on the Gallente/Mimmitar side:
1.) Don't Q-sync. That is a waste of valubale resources 2.) Have better organization 3.) Push harder 4.) DO NOT QQ AND GIVE UP!
Heck, that's all I really wanted to hear! And those are some great tips!
For the record, I still think there is something really fishy going on with FW that is preventing the Minmatar and Gallente from reclaiming land, and I'm still pushing to make sure CCP is aware. Though this is the same thing that was happening when Minmatar/Gallente were up 99% for a month, yet just a moment ago I saw the Minmatar go up to 19% in Heimatar. Bravo, the Amarr never got up that much when we were in the slumps! Of course, by tonight it'll be back down to 1% or 0% for you!
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
3001
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Posted - 2013.10.14 20:26:00 -
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da GAND wrote:Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? They don't fight for the Minmatar, they are Gallente, the off shoots who prior to thisweek were able to roll into Am/Min FW. |
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