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True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2992	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:37:00 - [1] - Quote da GAND wrote: Looking at the faction warfare map and the Amarr seem to be dominating , been playing FW for a bit lately for the Minmatar and it seems like there is always a squad filled with members from one corp on the amarr side. I've barely seen a squad from a specific corp on the Minmatar side, doesn't seem like there are many people that like the Minmatar on Dust 514, is it the same on the EVE side? You are actually shitting me aren't you You haven't looked at the map in more than a month? You haven't looked EVE side, or into DUST side factional alignments? You are telling me you think the Minmatar have a smaller playerbase in FW than the Amarr? In EVE everyone has been fighting for the Minmatar, everyone, not only are they painted as the heroes of EVE and Dust but they were winning FW for weeks. Now its the upswing the FW freelancers are more in favour of the Amarr right now. As for the Amarrian effort Dust side.... I put that down as a core to the hard work and dedication of the players who joined PIE Ground Deployment, from Teamplayers to DethDealers, to AIC, and back to Immortal Retribution....not to mention the months of slogging from PIE and the Hectationchires. They were the platform that the current FW effort leapt from. This time our players were just more organized, a bit more dedicated, and with the FW numbers stabilizing more compertitive.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2993	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:43:00 - [2] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: That and people flocked to Amarr when Cubs said he would be fighting for them. This has had a major effect on FW. It's honestly annoying and to the point where many won't even bother with the Matari because matches are just pre-match making proto/officer weapon stomps. You'd better give credit where credit is due mate. Teamplayers was one of the weights on the end of the seesaw, as aspect of FW that is common to both EVE and dust, and damn he has done a good job. But.... PIE Inc has been running constant OB's on the warzone for weeks, plexing all target systems, fighting non stop for a month, helping with and gathering all the Amarr FWers into one channel. ((this is not taking credit at all, as we saw weeks ago 2-4 players cannot make the difference. But with the formation of PIE GD, enough people took interest in working with us. I wish people wouldn't de facto point out Team Players because they are good and well known players. Half the Minnie FW efforts are Gallentean corps, the others are whiny pricks who generally cant accept FW mechanics are the way they are.))
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2993	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:45:00 - [3] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Speaking from my corp, we decide to not do FW anymore. It's not fun anymore and many of us are now about broke attempting to keep up with the insane wallets of those fighting for the Amarr. We can't get out of the hole. So there's no point in continuing. So, guess you guys win this one. twirls finger They'll need to run another event to get the sides evened out because the Minmatar will not be pulling themselves out of this hole anytime soon. And this is why we are going to win. If the core FW corps like yours pulled out EVE side as well. The warzone would be ours for a long tong time. I have lost well over 500 Million ISK EVE side and Dust side during the last month of pushing.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2994	Posted - 2013.10.14 18:51:00 - [4] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: True Adamance wrote: Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: That and people flocked to Amarr when Cubs said he would be fighting for them. This has had a major effect on FW. It's honestly annoying and to the point where many won't even bother with the Matari because matches are just pre-match making proto/officer weapon stomps. You'd better give credit where credit is due mate. Teamplayers was one of the weights on the end of the seesaw, as aspect of FW that is common to both EVE and dust, and damn he has done a good job. But.... PIE Inc has been running constant OB's on the warzone for weeks, plexing all target systems, fighting non stop for a month, helping with and gathering all the Amarr FWers into one channel. ((this is not taking credit at all, as we saw weeks ago 2-4 players cannot make the difference. But with the formation of PIE GD, enough people took interest in working with us. I wish people wouldn't de facto point out Team Players because they are good and well known players. Half the Minnie FW efforts are Gallentean corps, the others are whiny pricks who generally cant accept FW mechanics are the way they are.)) Yeah you guys started making matches competitive and fun before the event. Before the event is where I give you guys props and credit. Now your numbers are just stacked the sides are completely uneven. Many of us have tried organizing but the fact is most good players I know won't fight for the Minmatar anymore because of this event and because of whos on your side. For those of us that wanted balance to the teams, you efforts pre-event were worth noting. Now, it's just overkill. You're the generals of the ****-fest beating up on newbros now. Not exactly praise worthy anymore. If this whole thing happened without an event okay yeah, maybe then I'd give you a pat on the back. You guys lit a match. CCP poured gasoline on it. As much as I can sympathize this is what FW is. Core groups fighting over ground, pushing. Until one Major Free Lancer Group supports the efforts and we get the imbalance until the mold is broken a month later. Yeah you were right our efforts pre Region Flip was worth nothing, the Amarr FW scene was hugely under represented, and not organized. Now we are represented, supported, and organized. I wish you knew more about FW and how is has worked EVE side. AS much as I want fair matches, good matches. EVE is not fair, one day Dust will not be a lobby shooter and will come down to more than just stacking the best you can in 16 slots.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2995	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:00:00 - [5] - Quote I don't need props beyond the initial flip of the districts our miltia caused. You are pretty na+»ve about FW aren't you...... Are you also talking about how the developers took your side last month basically releasing a statement with their concerns about how Minmatar and Gallente FW might break and cause the month long zone control you had. Basically now that you are in the position the Amarr were last month you are giving up. That is not loyalty Cyrus. Good luck to you in whatever you do. Hopefully you return one day to FW.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2996	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:19:00 - [6] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: True Adamance wrote: I don't need props beyond the initial flip of the districts our miltia caused. You are pretty na+»ve about FW aren't you...... Are you also talking about how the developers took your side last month basically releasing a statement with their concerns about how Minmatar and Gallente FW might break and cause the month long zone control you had. Basically now that you are in the position the Amarr were last month you are giving up. That is not loyalty Cyrus. Good luck to you in whatever you do. Hopefully you return one day to FW. I'm sure you'll see me on the battleground but not my corp anymore. Sorry to hear that. I will miss the impending sense of doom I feel when I know you are on the map.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2996	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:37:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: da GAND wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: There's been fairly strong support for the Amarr for a while, it's just that it took until now for anyone to give a damn about FW. This event acted as a turning point, for sure. Seems so, I doubt that there will be enough support for the Minmitar to gain territory back in the future even if this game gains more players. I guess more people would prefer to fight for religious slavers. Sigh Well if Mimmitar had proto SCRs or gear that ppl used more often, then maybe we would have a chance. i've won most of my battles with the Mimmitar, but 1 guy can only make so much of a difference Plus i've yet to see any RP corp other than PIE, and PIE being a long lasting corp with EVE support definitely gives the Amarr Empire the advantage. Now if there was a Gallente or Mimmitar RP corp with EVE support than FW may get intresting. But yeah it's kinda pointless trying because of the massive amount of RPs and prostitutes whoring themselves to the Empire for some proto scrambler rifles. Look to Turalyon 514, and Prima Gallicus. They've been bailing you all out for weeks.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3000	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:49:00 - [8] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Aria Gomes wrote: Minmatar can still get districts back. We just need more Minmatars sticking together and fighting together or squading up. Yes PIE Inc and TP are great corps but that doesn't mean that else can't win some districts back. I think some Minmatars are just lazy, scared or something. If I see a good corp in the battle, damn straight I's keep my ass there and start fighting. If I lose a crapload of ISK , oh well at least I'm getting better by playing against better players. That's exactly the mentality you need to have! Whenever you see a large squad of players from a good corp, you know they are used to redlining the enemy team. So the best thing you can do is not run and hide (quit the battle), but do your best to make them hurt! Even if you don't win, if you can make them fight and make them bleed it will mess with their heads the next time you face off. And if you do beat them? Well, just sit back and wait for the excuse mail to come in! That's how we put the fear into RestlessSpirits for that one week.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3000	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:54:00 - [9] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: I have to disagree with being against Qsyncing. Sorry but almost every match I've played where we Q-synced it was necessary. Every match where there wasn't an organized team we lost. I'd rather win 1 out of 3 than lose 3 out of 3. It's like you guys are in this ridiculous state of denial about how large of support you have from this event. As you were in denial about how much support you had last month... I mean I had people going off their rockers about how much better they were than me because they were winning FW both on the ground and in the sky... they didn't stop to consider 9 loyal corps they had vs our 4. Now we are pushing in the skies and winning on the ground. We may have more support now, but it has shown me where you guys were coming from.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3000	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:55:00 - [10] - Quote 3000 LIKES BITCHES!

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3000	Posted - 2013.10.14 19:58:00 - [11] - Quote da GAND wrote: True Adamance wrote: 3000 LIKES BITCHES! Ummmm congrats?..... Thanks, but back to the main topic.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3001	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:03:00 - [12] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums......
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3001	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:26:00 - [13] - Quote da GAND wrote: Well it's good to know that there are some corps that support the Minmitar in FW. So far people have mentioned Turalyon514 and Prima Gallicus. Any other corps that fight for the Minmitar? They don't fight for the Minmatar, they are Gallente, the off shoots who prior to thisweek were able to roll into Am/Min FW.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3001	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:27:00 - [14] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums...... 500+ Mill can anyone beat that? 30+ Tanks lost 100+ Dropsuits and gear 2 Harbinger BattleCruisers 1 Navy Omen 2 Coercer 5 Tormentors 43 of my most shinest tanks destroyed 25 Limbui gone. 125 Wikomis Lost 3 Thales totaled 50 Proto dropsuits destroyed 512,344,603 ISK total. Yeah your right the rewards aren't even worth that much. But it seems that we are one of the few people who are dedicated for a cause. Just kidding it's more like 22 Mil but you still get the point edit: I dont play EVE, so I havent lost a starship yet That total is good but I hadn't even totalled my Dust side losses, that 500 Mill was ships alone.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3002	Posted - 2013.10.14 20:44:00 - [15] - Quote Aria Gomes wrote: Are there any Minmatar RP corps in Dust that are good? If I wasn't in Dust Core, I'd make one and find a way to contact some Minmatar EVE corps so we could get organization like PIE Inc. I feel like most of the Minmatar(myself including) lone wolf a lot in FW just because a lot of people never really wanted to play FW that much. FW used to be the place I could go for fun competition and better rewards with ISK and SP. Honestly FW is more my thing than Pub Matches. Pub matches are fun something quick or when I can't get into FW. Gradient is the Electus Matari Dust arm. They are the counterparts to PIE if ever there was one. They recruit infrequently here and I have never seen them in match though....
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 3005	Posted - 2013.10.14 21:09:00 - [16] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Also Cyrius, I don't believe we're denying how much support Amarr has right now, we simply don't like that people are attributing all of the support to random luck or event rewards. Yup I have lost more ISK's worth of equipment than the Carthums are worth, not to mention the Tanks, as well as the fact I cant even use the Carthums...... 500+ Mill can anyone beat that? 30+ Tanks lost 100+ Dropsuits and gear 2 Harbinger BattleCruisers 1 Navy Omen 2 Coercer 5 Tormentors 43 of my most shinest tanks destroyed 25 Limbui gone. 125 Wikomis Lost 3 Thales totaled 50 Proto dropsuits destroyed 512,344,603 ISK total. Yeah your right the rewards aren't even worth that much. But it seems that we are one of the few people who are dedicated for a cause. Just kidding it's more like 22 Mil but you still get the point edit: I dont play EVE, so I havent lost a starship yet That total is good but I hadn't even totalled my Dust side losses, that 500 Mill was ships alone. My God how much ISK are you willing to burn? I'm paying a billion ISK for the Templar BPO, a lovely, but heartless corpie is eating into my indy savings very heavily.