Some could argue that P/C is unbalanced because it is the platform for all of the DUST 514 exploits; taking advantage of the parts where the game is lopsided.

Plus, what percentage of the playerbase plays P/C anymore?

Now before everybody starts foaming at the mouth and chanting: Elitist, Elitist, burn the Elitist. Take a second to hear me out.

As we all know, the current public match finder is plagued with unbalanced variables. Team sizes, Gear, Lack of roles...etc. Therefore, why would anyone try to use data from such a broken system to balance anything. It would be like trying to build a skyscraper on a sandy foundation.

Now no one is saying PC is perfect, but it is definitely more consistent than public matches. CCP I highly suggest that for weapon balance, you use PC statistics.

Anyways, I wish people just tired PC before commenting how awesome the AR is in every situation, because it really is not.

Good Players Love me, and bad players mask their envy with Jealousy

1. Yes exploits have been used in the past, but I believe because of PC they were dealt with faster and fixed. Flaylock Spam and Melee Glitch. PC is good at weeding out the exploits and fixing them.

2. The top players still play PC

Did that hurt when you pulled this list out of your ass? God damn.

I like all that except the logi is a medic, gtfo and you know it. Saw a scout with over 600hp yesterday, nerf those? Lol no.

Frankly if you hate him it doesnt matter because its right

PC is the only place where organized teams/squads go at it with proto gear except vehicle users

Currently in PC the common tactics are

1. FG on top of things, mainly the rings so they can shoot everything down
2. Mass drivers, mass driver everywhere
3. lolvehicles, no proto mods or vehicles only proto turrets against proto AV
4. M1 locus grenades, M1 locus grenades everywhere
5. Explosive spam as much as possible, aim less and spam more

Lmfao, would pay to see how bad that fit was

He had a scrambler rifle and was wrecking everyone actually

Lmfao, would pay to see how bad that fit was

Sounds like he was just a monster then, scouts don't exactly have much room to fit things. Clearly a proto suit or else I just don't know anymore

First CCP needs to define what their role is. They have said that they are supposed to be point defenders but nothing about their bonuses leans towards that other than a marginally higher EHP.

Maybe bonuses should be tied to proximity to null cannons but be very very good in that case. Have them be teired

Tier 1 - When not X meters from a null cannon (or some other point of defense)
2% resistance to handheld light weapons per level

Tier 2 - When within X meters of defensive point
3% resistance to handheld light weapons fire per level
5% increase to scan radius and precision per level

Remember when you used to get your ass kicked in Halo? That's why you don't. It's called accessability.

Now before everybody starts foaming at the mouth and chanting: Elitist, Elitist, burn the Elitist. Take a second to hear me out.

As we all know, the current public match finder is plagued with unbalanced variables. Team sizes, Gear, Lack of roles...etc. Therefore, why would anyone try to use data from such a broken system to balance anything. It would be like trying to build a skyscraper on a sandy foundation.

Now no one is saying PC is perfect, but it is definitely more consistent than public matches. CCP I highly suggest that for weapon balance, you use PC statistics.

Anyways, I wish people just tired PC before commenting how awesome the AR is in every situation, because it really is not.

This is something I've been saying for a while now. Dust has some very unbalanced mechanics and the only place that they're really blatant is in PC, because that is where the stakes are highest. So people figure out what the most broken and overpowered weapons and tactics are, and then abuse the hell out of them. Most people in my corp have stopped joining our PC matches because the broken mechanics make it not fun. Those mechanics still exist in FW and public matches, but people there are rarely aware or capable of exploiting them.

LOL I'm still waiting on CCP to apply these changes:

New Breach AR/SMG stats:

• Breach AR Damage - 63.7 HP (STD), 66.8 HP (ADV), 70.1 HP (PRO)
• Breach AR RoF - 450
• High Kick for Breach AR
• Breach SMG RoF - 882.8
• Breach SMG clip size - 62
• Slightly Higher Kick for Breach SMG

New Logistics changes:

• Slot layout has low count on all dropsuits to prevent high HP (it's a medic class not an Officer Assault suit)
• CPU/PG would be lowered to accommodate above change

New Grenade Stats:

• All Grenade types except Fused will have Max. Ammo of 2
• Grenades cannot be resupplied from Nanohives, this is to prevent spam and use it tactically.
• Fused Locus Grenade - 350 dmg, 2.5 splash radius, 9 CPU and 2 PG
• M2 Contact Locus Grenade - 400 dmg, 2.8 splash Radius, 18 CPU and 3 PG
• Thukker Contact Locus Grenade - 450 dmg, 3.0 splash radius, 48 CPU and 6 PG
[Changes to contact grenades must be made together with "No resupply" change.

New stats for Ammar Commando:

• Shield - 320 HP
• Armor - 320 HP
• Shield Recharge Rate - 17.0 HP/s
• CPU/PG would receive a slight increase
• Ammar Commando Bonus - 10% to efficacy of Shield/Armor Modules per level

New Sentinel bonus:

• 3% to handheld weapon damage resistance per level

Plasma Cannon Assault Variant:

• Same Splash Damage stats as the current PLC
• Base Splash Radius is 3.8 m
• Max. Ammo at 12
• Charge time is .6 s

Plasma Cannon Normal Variant:

• 20% higher Splash damage than the Assault Variant
• Base Splash Radius is 3.5 m
• Charge time is 1 s

The operation skill for the Plasma Cannon weapon is to be replaced with 5% Splash Radius increase per level.

if they forced logistics suits to have each equip slot loaded like they do vehicles with their turret slots. hp tanking logi suits wouldnt be a problem.

I like all that except the logi is a medic, gtfo and you know it. Saw a scout with over 600hp yesterday, nerf those? Lol no.

if they forced logistics suits to have each equip slot loaded like they do vehicles with their turret slots. hp tanking logi suits wouldnt be a problem.

Now before everybody starts foaming at the mouth and chanting: Elitist, Elitist, burn the Elitist. Take a second to hear me out.

As we all know, the current public match finder is plagued with unbalanced variables. Team sizes, Gear, Lack of roles...etc. Therefore, why would anyone try to use data from such a broken system to balance anything. It would be like trying to build a skyscraper on a sandy foundation.

Now no one is saying PC is perfect, but it is definitely more consistent than public matches. CCP I highly suggest that for weapon balance, you use PC statistics.

Anyways, I wish people just tired PC before commenting how awesome the AR is in every situation, because it really is not.

i agree, based on PC stats it is clear that

A)Grenades need to be made so they cannot be resupplied.

B)You be given the max amount of 2 grenades at the locus, 2 at the flux, and 4 at the AV.

C)Mass Drivers be given a nerf to reload speed, as well as splash damage.

D)Mass Drivers SHOULD NOT be affected by damage mods. there is a reason grenades don't have thier own damage mod.

E)Forge guns, should be given a lock on time to vehicles of .2 second with a lowered reload time as well as more shots in the clip.

F)The Assault scrambler rifle have a raised heat build up as it is impossible to over heat in one full clip of the ASC even if spraying constantly. equipped with two damage mods, this does as much damage to armor as a douvalle.

G)Armor repair should be given a stacking penalty just like shield regulators.

Like scouts need a nerf. Yeah right.

You see people tanking eHP on scout suits? It's because those things are dang near impossible to survive in. So what if im invisible on the scanner? If someone even LOOKS at me, they can track me. If a scout is seen from 50m out, it's game over unless you have some cover to run to.