Its made as an AV weapon which it is fine for and i have no trouble with it

Big problem is that it is a superior weapon to use when killing infantry and requires free aim to do so

You can easily pull a 20-0 and use a milita FG if wanted granted it does require to be up high but once up high you are basically god and only a well placed OB will throw you off

But when this happened with swarms it was classed as broken and OP, that got fixed by being a lock on weapon and only for vehicles

So do you think the FG is OP against infantry?

Do you think the problem is the FG being up high?

Do you think its a combination of both problems?

Should the FG kill infantry?

Is it even a problem at all? If it is how would you fix it?


Also remember its basically a handheld version of a railgun except more damage and splash/radius so infantry would cry for the vehicle railgun to be also changed most likely because they are similiar so if a FG cant kill infantry then neither would the vehicle railgun for example

Thoughts?

Also remember its basically a handheld version of a railgun except more damage and splash/radius so infantry would cry for the vehicle railgun to be also changed most likely because they are similiar so if a FG cant kill infantry then neither would the vehicle railgun for example

Lol physics.

The lack of iron sights, the limited ammo capacity, and the decreased mobility of deploying the heavy suit all contribute to balancing this weapon. I understand that it can be frustrating dealing with a FG, but with the nerfed splash, you really have to stay out in the open to get clipped by it. I generally run an ADV FG, and it can take 2-3 shots of pure splash to kill someone in STD dropsuits. Not to mention that during the charge phase, the FG lights up, makes a loud noise, and slows your suit down even more.

Forge gunners are generally pretty easy to pick off (most of the time I end up long range dueling other heavies) with cheap forge guns, so I recommend building a militia fit to deal with them.

AntimateriEl

Materiel refers to military equipment, ie ammo dumps, vehicles, artillery, etc.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Materiel

I'm just tired of being sniped by a forge gun when I'm sniping.

Since when is a forge gun more accurate than a sniper?

Its made as an AV weapon which it is fine for and i have no trouble with it
Big problem is that it is a superior weapon to use when killing infantry and requires free aim to do so
You can easily pull a 20-0 and use a milita FG if wanted granted it does require to be up high but once up high you are basically god and only a well placed OB will throw you off
But when this happened with swarms it was classed as broken and OP, that got fixed by being a lock on weapon and only for vehicles
So do you think the FG is OP against infantry?
Do you think the problem is the FG being up high?
Do you think its a combination of both problems?
Should the FG kill infantry?
Is it even a problem at all? If it is how would you fix it?

Also remember its basically a handheld version of a railgun except more damage and splash/radius so infantry would cry for the vehicle railgun to be also changed most likely because they are similiar so if a FG cant kill infantry then neither would the vehicle railgun for example

Thoughts?

good try, you almost got me there. but it actually says 'anti-materal' in the description i just saw. see:

" Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge time, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it."

i highlighted the last part for the others to come to grips that it, though being a boss AV weapon, is still expected to be equally devastating against infantry, as designed.

i'm not commenting on if it's OP or not, i'll just say that if you can kill someone with this gun (other than tower stomping that is) i think you are deserving of that kill. just last night i found myself in a situation where 2 red berries were hiding from my squad in a distant corner, being protected by the edge of the building. there was no line of sight, but there was a wall behind them, two shots from the forge (with others providing supressive fire) and they were dead. why should situations like that be removed?

read the description here: http://dust514.wikia.com/wiki/Forge_Gun. If anything I'd say the FG is UP because a slug going 7Km PER SECOND (Mach 20.5ish) WOULD NOT have travel time or decide to just wink out of existence at 350ish meters... Just sayin'

good try, you almost got me there. but it actually says 'anti-materal' in the description i just saw. see:

" Adapted from Deep Core Mining Inc.'s proprietary technology, the DCMA S-1 subverts conventional expectations of what a man-portable anti-material weapons platform is capable of. Despite its excessive weight and extended recharge time, the GÇ£Forge GunGÇ¥ as it has become known, is regarded as the most devastating infantry weapon on the battlefield, and an invaluable tool for those capable of wielding it."

i highlighted the last part for the others to come to grips that it, though being a boss AV weapon, is still expected to be equally devastating against infantry, as designed.

i'm not commenting on if it's OP or not, i'll just say that if you can kill someone with this gun (other than tower stomping that is) i think you are deserving of that kill. just last night i found myself in a situation where 2 red berries were hiding from my squad in a distant corner, being protected by the edge of the building. there was no line of sight, but there was a wall behind them, two shots from the forge (with others providing supressive fire) and they were dead. why should situations like that be removed?

Its made as an AV weapon which it is fine for and i have no trouble with it

Big problem is that it is a superior weapon to use when killing infantry and requires free aim to do so

You can easily pull a 20-0 and use a milita FG if wanted granted it does require to be up high but once up high you are basically god and only a well placed OB will throw you off

But when this happened with swarms it was classed as broken and OP, that got fixed by being a lock on weapon and only for vehicles

So do you think the FG is OP against infantry?

Do you think the problem is the FG being up high?

Do you think its a combination of both problems?

Should the FG kill infantry?

Is it even a problem at all? If it is how would you fix it?


Also remember its basically a handheld version of a railgun except more damage and splash/radius so infantry would cry for the vehicle railgun to be also changed most likely because they are similiar so if a FG cant kill infantry then neither would the vehicle railgun for example

Thoughts?

AR scrubs will always say no nerf to their magical, fantasy weapon of lazy noobdom.

I say no. A magical, swiss army knife weapon that rewards laziness, particularly when paired with anything and everything, should always be nerfed.

a forge gun on the ground can easily kill a forge gun high up. spec into one.

a gun that destroys vehicles/installations SHOULD be able to kill infantry also.

so no, it's not a problem.

Then let me shoot my swarms at you as well as you can shoot your forge at me

THEN its not a problem...

Swarms is an AV weapon and i cant shoot swarms at infantry.
It should be the same with forge guns.

Forge gun has many draw backs, these are used to offset the damage dealt.

What other weapon even when full specialized takes at least 2 seconds before it even is capable of doing damage? What other weapon makes you slowed immobile without actively firing? Ever spawned and be killed before you can fire off one shot? (Not super infrequent when you have a squad rushing your spawn point, and there is nothing you can do about it.

In addition to being in a slow suit with a large hit box, you have a weapon that makes you even slower, and highlighted with a bright "shoot me aura" , and has such a low RoF that one miss is easily enough to determine the difference between victory and death.


Tl;dr get good, don't stand still, if you see a FG take him out ASAP or find cover. Also as it has been mentioned a couple times, snipers are always a great counter against FG, a shot or two can either halt their killing spree, unroot them from their position, or if they aren't smart enough to run/fire back then they die. As simple as that.