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Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 336	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:16:00 - [1] - Quote Yesterday I was using the squad finder and got into a match with some pretty laid back guys. We were doing good rolling over waves of Gallente when we started talking about re-specs. I said I wanted one, he didn't because "all the noobs who didn't know how to play the game would get protosuits." So... Some are scared that the common raspberry might be able to shoot back. All I want is to spec out of nades and snipers.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance 60	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:17:00 - [2] - Quote People are against respecs because they like to *****, complain and/or whine about everything they possibly can. I still say one more respec should happen, oh I dunno, when the other half of the game is released; ie the year 2020 probably.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3781	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:18:00 - [3] - Quote All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start...
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 471	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:19:00 - [4] - Quote There is no commitment then, if you get a respec you are not working towards anything it is just handed to you. If you want to not use snipers get the Skill points to train into someone else. Chad Michael Murray wrote: People are against respecs because they like to *****, complain and/or whine about everything they possibly can. I still say one more respec should happen, oh I dunno, when the other half of the game is released; ie the year 2020 probably. You are stupid, we want things to stay the same you are the one arguing and crying for the changes in respecs.
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 603	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:19:00 - [5] - Quote Yeah once the tanks and dropships are out u will c alot of people asking for them just wait and see.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1604	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:19:00 - [6] - Quote A noob in a proto suit is not a scary thing.
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1146	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:19:00 - [7] - Quote Sigh are you going to continue flogging thisndead horse.. the only time cconwillnever offer respecs is when they remomove skills or items that require skills to use. That or if they drasticly change the skill tree. Just be more cautious at wasting your sp.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 336	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:20:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start... At this point there isn't a FotM or maybe I'm badly informed.
Roldrage The Plasma Cannon Doctrine 189	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:20:00 - [9] - Quote It's pretty much as Arkena says, plus even if it was an aurum option people would cry p2w.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 336	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:21:00 - [10] - Quote pegasis prime wrote: Sigh are you going to continue flogging thisndead horse.. the only time cconwillnever offer respecs is when they remomove skills or items that require skills to use. That or if they drasticly change the skill tree. Just be more cautious at wasting your sp. I've got more SP than I need and I didn't waste it. I just think it would freshen up the game.

Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3782	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:21:00 - [11] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start... At this point there isn't a FotM or maybe I'm badly informed. You are badly informed. There is practically always an FotM - at the moment it's logistics suit of choice plus damage modded Duvolle.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 336	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:24:00 - [12] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start... At this point there isn't a FotM or maybe I'm badly informed. You are badly informed. There is practically always an FotM - at the moment it's logistics suit of choice plus damage modded Duvolle. Hasn't that been the FotM forever? I've seen them used with a 6 man Balac's squad.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 739	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:27:00 - [13] - Quote A respec would bring back a lot of people or keep the number. And probably only 30% of those who say they would leave actually would.
DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 19	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:32:00 - [14] - Quote The people who don't want respecs are the ones that suck at this game I wanted more than 1 equipment slot for pc but no assaults don't need it so that's one reason why I didn't come back for very long wasted sp
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3784	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:32:00 - [15] - Quote Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Ansiiis The Trustworthy wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start... At this point there isn't a FotM or maybe I'm badly informed. You are badly informed. There is practically always an FotM - at the moment it's logistics suit of choice plus damage modded Duvolle. Hasn't that been the FotM forever? I've seen them used with a 6 man Balac's squad. Not quite forever, though it does tend to be similar - once upon a time it was laser rifles, then Calogis with TARs, then Core Flaylocks, etc.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation Ascension Alliance 60	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:33:00 - [16] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: You are stupid, we want things to stay the same you are the one arguing and crying for the changes, Stay the same? As in... you want the game to stay half-done forever? That's fine, kid. Honestly though, I couldn't care less if there's another respec or not my sp is fine, just think it'd be a bit silly to release the other 50% of the game without a respec; Sorry guys here's the rest of the content that was due three decades ago but you have to grind moar! BUY BOOSTERS XOXO
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1748	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:36:00 - [17] - Quote The reason people are against respecs is because in a free game we earn new content by populating the servers. Granting respecs undermines that concept. All you encountered was a bad anti-respec argument to go alongside the multitude of legitimate ones. There are plenty of ways to implement a respec system that mitigates these factors, but so far the only real pro-respec arguments are "I want more, and I want it now".
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1695	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:36:00 - [18] - Quote Basically most of the vets want a respecs to freshen up the game, it's not that they made bad choices, it's just that the game is dull and respecing would be fun. Ppl that don't want respecs say ppl will spec into FOTM which honestly happens all the time ANYWAY so I don't really understand them.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1696	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:37:00 - [19] - Quote I am not against it, i just don't think is need it right now. Still lots stuff to be release that we don't have yet, if we get a respec now, we just going to need another one in few months time... better wait i think.
KING CHECKMATE Shining Flame Amarr Empire 1681	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:41:00 - [20] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: All that will happen if you give out a respec is that people will immediately chase the FotM and whine for another one when the FotM changes. If you implement a system that allows you to respec often, then everyone chases the FotM. There are problems with the SP system, but a respec is not a magic bullet to fix everything. EDIT - There should be an exception when the rest of the racial content is released. It should have been there from the start... There is no FOTM ATM /Post invalid

Cosgar ParagonX 5772	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:45:00 - [21] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45PdtGDGhac
Soraya Xel New Eden's Most Wanted Top Men. 664	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:47:00 - [22] - Quote Respecs reduce the usefulness of gaining SP overall, and hence murder the need for veteran players to buy boosters. Veteran players being the folks more willing to invest money in the game. Therefore, respecs = less money for CCP = dead game.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 471	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:49:00 - [23] - Quote If people will wait and save their SP to spec into the FOTM anyways why can't they just wait and save their SP inorder to spec into a new dropsuit or weapon they want instead of asking for a respec.
RED FARM Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 3	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:54:00 - [24] - Quote Soraya Xel wrote: Respecs reduce the usefulness of gaining SP overall, and hence murder the need for veteran players to buy boosters. Veteran players being the folks more willing to invest money in the game. Therefore, respecs = less money for CCP = dead game. As I have mentioned in past.... Respec at a cost of 100M ISK plus 100k AUR would/should be viable option. You should be able liquidate Assests as well. #beatsdeadhorse100x
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 110	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:57:00 - [25] - Quote My current worry is that they respec everyone - exchange all of our gear and fittings for isk - cash out or BPOs for AUR with no option to buy them back.
RED FARM Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 3	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:58:00 - [26] - Quote Viktor Hadah Jr wrote: If people will wait and save their SP to spec into the FOTM anyways why can't they just wait and save their SP inorder to spec into a new dropsuit or weapon they want instead of asking for a respec. Says Mr. Jr, a Proto with a Scrambler Rifle of Death How long did it take to get that set up you use?
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 4464	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:59:00 - [27] - Quote You guys are missing the big picture. It's about the three general rules of New Eden that have existed and have been established for ten years already. Adapt or die. Don't use what you can't afford to lose. Accept the permanent consequences of your choices. The third rule is the most important and is something every inhabitant of New Eden has adopted into their culture for the past ten years. I understand that these rules come from Eve Online and some of you feel that what goes on in Eve should stay in Eve and not in DUST. But the fact that DUST is operating in the exact same universe (and the exact same server) with some interaction in between means that whatever rules Eve Online has will more than likely apply to DUST. Eve players have a lot of power in both inside the game and through the council of stellar management which by themselves already have real world stakeholder power with CCP. When CCP screwed up with addressing the concerns of the players about gold ammo and respecs for aurum rumors back in 2011, the players literally revolted en masse which forced CCP to stop any of such rumors from coming true. The Eve players are that passionate. Remember that New Eden is a very different mmo compared to other games in terms of culture, organization, and player influence. It won't be long until DUST starts adopting a similar culture once both economies begin to integrate.
DeadlyAztec11 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 2194	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:00:00 - [28] - Quote RED FARM wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Respecs reduce the usefulness of gaining SP overall, and hence murder the need for veteran players to buy boosters. Veteran players being the folks more willing to invest money in the game. Therefore, respecs = less money for CCP = dead game. As I have mentioned in past.... Respec at a cost of 100M ISK plus 100k AUR would/should be viable option. You should be able liquidate Assests as well. #beatsdeadhorse100x p2w as sure as the sun will rise.
APOPHIS Xxx the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 20	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:00:00 - [29] - Quote DJINNDicknoseturdwaffle wrote: The people who don't want respecs are the ones that suck at this game I wanted more than 1 equipment slot for pc but no assaults don't need it so that's one reason why I didn't come back for very long wasted sp No, the people who wants a respecs are the ones that sucks at this game and not knowing how to properly use their skill points. There's nothing stopping you from playing and saving up more SP's for the skills you SHOULD have skilled up into. Boo hoo....That's why you didn't come back because you didn't get your way!! What a efn BABY! NO RESPEC! Especially for players like yourself!
RED FARM Gespenster Kompanie Villore Accords 5	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:10:00 - [30] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: RED FARM wrote: Soraya Xel wrote: Respecs reduce the usefulness of gaining SP overall, and hence murder the need for veteran players to buy boosters. Veteran players being the folks more willing to invest money in the game. Therefore, respecs = less money for CCP = dead game. As I have mentioned in past.... Respec at a cost of 100M ISK plus 100k AUR would/should be viable option. You should be able liquidate Assests as well. #beatsdeadhorse100x p2w as sure as the sun will rise. Well, yes and no. If you can save 100M in ISK you are probably Proto already and don't feel like spending another 3-4 months on a new let's say Scout gk.0 Mass Driver and Nova Knife build. So, you quit due to being bored. Heck, make it 250M ISK plus 100 Aurum. - OR Increase the weekly SP cap. Oh, but that will not happen because P2W is already here aka Boosters



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