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Aisha Ctarl PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1487	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:06:00 - [1] - Quote ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers.
Coleman Gray GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 790	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:09:00 - [2] - Quote The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol
CrotchGrab 360 Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 287	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:12:00 - [3] - Quote due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?" Must have been fun while it lasted..........
SickJ sephiroth clones D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 100	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:15:00 - [4] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Well it's obvious isn't it? Start invading Gallente and Caldari space. Nothing could possibly go wrong.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 428	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:16:00 - [5] - Quote all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top
Christiphoros von Poe PSU GHOST SYNDICATE DARKSTAR ARMY 20	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:18:00 - [6] - Quote SickJ wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Well it's obvious isn't it? Start invading Gallente and Caldari space. Nothing could possibly go wrong. Heh... Yeah... That would go well.
Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1965	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:20:00 - [7] - Quote Fuuuuuu- I've probably completed about 20 Amarr FW battles since the start of the event. I'm happy we took back our territory and that the Minmatar will be set back on the straight path but I would have liked those rewards nonetheless. I haven't had the chance to play yet today but I hope I'm curious why now no battles are available for the Amarr? When the Minmatar controlled all the territory it seemed like we could instantly get into battle on the Amarr side. What changed?
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 110	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:21:00 - [8] - Quote This feels like a Planet Side problem.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 303	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:22:00 - [9] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr Sad but true, lots of corps that only dabble in FW for a change of scenery have aided the Amarrian conquest for the rewards. Since most will soon "achieve" the reward tiers they will leave FW. My worry now is that since we are on the reverse side of the win/loss & attack/defence before the event we may have an issue with the mechanics to take it back, only time will tell.
Ansiiis The Trustworthy Robbing The Hood Public Disorder. 336	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:26:00 - [10] - Quote I'm fighting for Caldari and haven't lost a match so I'd say you could at least help your Caldari allies with the grind.

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 641	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:31:00 - [11] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2812	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:33:00 - [12] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is
Green Living 0uter.Heaven 899	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:36:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah, I don't get to play often and managed a total of 4 Amarr FW matches before not being able to find any.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1695	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:43:00 - [14] - Quote Can someone link me to where it shows the standings of Amarr vs Minmitar?
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 403	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:43:00 - [15] - Quote We should let them take a couple of districts back and then re-take them all over again. Let's give our other brothers a chance at the rewards.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 403	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:44:00 - [16] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Can someone link me to where it shows the standings of Amarr vs Minmitar? We own all of it. 100%. Now, Scotty can't find us matches.
Herli Pascal Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 76	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:47:00 - [17] - Quote I don't think Amarr victory shows FW is broken on the Dust side. Minmatar has been losing ground for a long time; the Dust FW event just sped up the process.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2699	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:49:00 - [18] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top It wasn't a glitch or a bug, it was a design flaw. And it wasn't specifically making the Minmatar and Gallente win FW, it was making it so whichever team held a slight majority of districts would create a snowball effect until they own all districts and then hold them in a virtual lock down. From what it appears, this design flaw has yet to be fixed. Nonetheless, that doesn't mean Amarr or Caldari don't deserve credits. Both factions have rallied enough forces to somehow climb out of that hole they've been in for a month. The problem is that now for the Minmatar or Gallente to come back, they're going to need a similarly monstrous effort. Pretty much it turns into an "all or nothing" thing which really isn't how FW should be. There should be long periods of time where everything is mostly contested, with only brief moments where one team is able to make a push and secure all districts.
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles 1695	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:50:00 - [19] - Quote Lea Silencio wrote: DJINN Marauder wrote: Can someone link me to where it shows the standings of Amarr vs Minmitar? We own all of it. 100%. Now, Scotty can't find us matches. Link? Wait if we own 100%... I still have to do like 20-30 more wins lol. I'm gonna have trouble finding fw games then :(
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2699	Posted - 2013.10.10 20:52:00 - [20] - Quote Herli Pascal wrote: I don't think Amarr victory shows FW is broken on the Dust side. Minmatar has been losing ground for a long time; the Dust FW event just sped up the process. Well it's a little of both. Again, Amarr and Caldari both deserve massive credit for their accomplishments on getting out of their hole they've dug themselves. Still, an obvious sign that the FW system is still not working correctly is the fact that you get "scotty" errors when your faction has no districts to attack. You should at least be put into a defensive contract.

GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 603	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:04:00 - [21] - Quote Lol MINMITAR JUST WON TWO RIGHT now so all u obviously dont play in all the matches to know
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3781	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:12:00 - [22] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1529	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:21:00 - [23] - Quote a someone what impressive turn out, but completely semgs the event because i cant run matches now to earn the wins i need i work full time so its not like i just play when less people are on. in character AHHA i NEW OUR FAITH WOULD BE REWARDED
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2816	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:46:00 - [24] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. The FW system is dominated by players exploiting the LP of a certain faction to sell their ships on the market. But I see what you mean, with the Minmatar dominating in this example does this mean Amarr Navy Ships will increase in value?
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3787	Posted - 2013.10.10 21:58:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. The FW system is dominated by players exploiting the LP of a certain faction to sell their ships on the market. But I see what you mean, with the Minmatar dominating in this example does this mean Amarr Navy Ships will increase in value? Yes. Have you not seen this? When the Minmatar militia is winning, the value of firetails drops significantly and the value of slicers increases significantly. The only variable here is the LP value. There is no mechanic even remotely like the rewards system we are seeing here. The value of Amarr equipment did not increase when they were getting stomped, and the value of Minmatar equipment will not increase here now. Thus, this is not how EVE side FW works.
TechMechMeds Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 360	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:24:00 - [26] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. On my tank alt I activated my nitrous and ran you over, I hope that tasted good
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2820	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:28:00 - [27] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. On my tank alt I activated my nitrous and ran you over, I hope that tasted good Its always is funny.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2821	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:29:00 - [28] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. The FW system is dominated by players exploiting the LP of a certain faction to sell their ships on the market. But I see what you mean, with the Minmatar dominating in this example does this mean Amarr Navy Ships will increase in value? Yes. Have you not seen this? When the Minmatar militia is winning, the value of firetails drops significantly and the value of slicers increases significantly. The only variable here is the LP value. There is no mechanic even remotely like the rewards system we are seeing here. The value of Amarr equipment did not increase when they were getting stomped, and the value of Minmatar equipment will not increase here now. Thus, this is not how EVE side FW works. Not necessarily for the Amarr yet, but I do know its happening for the Minnies, oir has been.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles 180	Posted - 2013.10.10 22:58:00 - [29] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. Just another example of CCP's ability to balance even prizes... Unbalanced prizes... in even Isk value... like CCP didn't even use their calculator this time. Ultimate lazyness ftw.
Beld Errmon Evocatius 978	Posted - 2013.10.10 23:08:00 - [30] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2834	Posted - 2013.10.11 02:53:00 - [31] - Quote Beld Errmon wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D He also hasn't seen the epic ONI fit or Navy Apocs I have.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1439	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:40:00 - [32] - Quote CrotchGrab 360 wrote: due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?" Must have been fun while it lasted.......... a lot of us hopped in to help because Amarr was the losing team... reversed in 48hrs? who'da thunkit? /shrug
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 4075	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:42:00 - [33] - Quote 'Course, if CCP were to let us choose our prizes... No, scratch that. Makes too much sense. _________________________________________________________________________________________ Gimmie my damn Amarrian tank and rollover SP.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2836	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:46:00 - [34] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: CrotchGrab 360 wrote: due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?" Must have been fun while it lasted.......... a lot of us hopped in to help because Amarr was the losing team... reversed in 48hrs? who'da thunkit? /shrug Damn right and we told you this. When numbers get equalised we get competitive, when they are not its utterly devastating to the war effort.
Poonmunch Sanguis Defense Syndicate 490	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:46:00 - [35] - Quote Ryder Azorria wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards. That's what I did. Shiny rewards - it's how I roll. Munch
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2836	Posted - 2013.10.11 03:48:00 - [36] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: Ryder Azorria wrote: XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards. That's what I did. Shiny rewards - it's how I roll. Munch But those who tend to fight for the imperialistic groups in my experience are by far in large better than those who run punk kid scavenger.
Nap-Time Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc. 3	Posted - 2013.10.11 04:49:00 - [37] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: True Adamance wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. I tend to think its pointless to explain eve mechanics to a bunch of console players... However +1 for your effort...
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 117	Posted - 2013.10.11 04:51:00 - [38] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Can someone link me to where it shows the standings of Amarr vs Minmitar? ditto
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 217	Posted - 2013.10.11 04:54:00 - [39] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. Bird brain answer for Bird brain question: Get a character on another faction, take back a bunch of territory, then retake it again...
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 1691	Posted - 2013.10.11 04:55:00 - [40] - Quote Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol HEH except Amarrians, who you know.. are LOYAL to their faction. And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs ....

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2840	Posted - 2013.10.11 07:45:00 - [41] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol HEH except Amarrians, who you know.. are LOYAL to their faction. And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Indeed. But King don't even bother with these guys, were not here to brag, were here to make sure the Empire is safe from their threats. I feel like I have bothered to respond to ignorance, weak minded comments, and more over the threats against the Empire. In the end "Service is its own Reward" as one of the PIE officers would say, Serve is what we do. Victory is what we must achieve, and vigilant we must be in the face of the enemy. I am very happy to hear of your initiative in AIC. Keep true to the tenets of the Amarr, we are dignified, diligent, faithful, and above all God's chosen people. Let them bicker and moan. Ours is an immortal destiny.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 669	Posted - 2013.10.11 08:00:00 - [42] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2840	Posted - 2013.10.11 08:09:00 - [43] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side.
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers EoN. 1532	Posted - 2013.10.11 08:53:00 - [44] - Quote Just goes to show when it gets tough the amarr get it together and put real effort into sorting the mess out and the binmatar just point figures
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 669	Posted - 2013.10.11 09:56:00 - [45] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. in short: just because some kids smacktalked last week you decided to drop down to their level and do it too?
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 303	Posted - 2013.10.11 10:11:00 - [46] - Quote This event is a false economy. Totalling up the number of suit/fittings losses to the value of the rewards I'm on the brink of devaluing the rewards. So what's the point. Anyone else lost more than the value of the rewards? After the event is over we shall see how long it takes to return control of those systems to matari hands.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2841	Posted - 2013.10.11 10:20:00 - [47] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: True Adamance wrote: Jack McReady wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. in short: just because some kids smacktalked last week you decided to drop down to their level and do it too? No my point from that comment is that many people have said its only the rewards keeping the Am/Cal FW efforts in charge, however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet. Hands down the Amarr and GAllente are the better organised militias. All the Minnies have going for them in popular opinion.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 303	Posted - 2013.10.11 10:25:00 - [48] - Quote True Adamance wrote: however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet. I really do doubt that. Pubstompers look at the rewards, see that the Caldari/Amarr rewards are more favourable. Create squads and PIE take the credit? Sure....
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2841	Posted - 2013.10.11 10:33:00 - [49] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: True Adamance wrote: however you forget that a ** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet. I really do doubt that. Pubstompers look at the rewards, see that the Caldari/Amarr rewards are more favourable. Create squads and PIE take the credit? Sure.... Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. ** your ignorance.
Rogue Saint Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse 303	Posted - 2013.10.11 10:52:00 - [50] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. **** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2843	Posted - 2013.10.11 11:01:00 - [51] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. ** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to ** on the work everyone else has done?
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2735	Posted - 2013.10.11 11:07:00 - [52] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. ** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to ** on the work everyone else has done? Most of the stuff True listed was Dust side, so why not give credit? Because you can't accept you got beat? Pro-tip: Winning in faction warfare isn't about being a better player, it's about being a better organizer and planner.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2844	Posted - 2013.10.11 11:09:00 - [53] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: True Adamance wrote: Rogue Saint wrote: True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. ** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to on the work everyone else has done? Most of the stuff True listed was Dust side, so why not give credit? Because you can't accept you got beat? Pro-tip: Winning in faction warfare isn't about being a better player, it's about being a better organizer and planner. Glad we have Gavin and the Captains.... the ** they think of is insane.
Arkena Wyrnspire Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance 3812	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:25:00 - [54] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Yes. Have you not seen this? When the Minmatar militia is winning, the value of firetails drops significantly and the value of slicers increases significantly. The only variable here is the LP value. There is no mechanic even remotely like the rewards system we are seeing here. The value of Amarr equipment did not increase when they were getting stomped, and the value of Minmatar equipment will not increase here now. Thus, this is not how EVE side FW works. Not necessarily for the Amarr yet, but I do know its happening for the Minnies, oir has been. It has happened to the Amarr. Slicers have been twice the price of Firetails in some trade hubs. True Adamance wrote: Beld Errmon wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D He also hasn't seen the epic ONI fit or Navy Apocs I have. I meant the FW stores. Neither of those mentioned are fail ships - ONIs and Napocs are potentially excellent ships.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1191	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:46:00 - [55] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here. MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2739	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:51:00 - [56] - Quote First Prophet wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here. MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs. Maybe the semi auto scramblers, but I really see assault scramblers. Also the MDs died? Could of fooled me. I see them everywhere left and right.
Smooth Assassin Stardust incorporation 229	Posted - 2013.10.11 16:52:00 - [57] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. You notice you had minmatars in your team?
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 417	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:16:00 - [58] - Quote Rogue Saint wrote: True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work. **** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. You should. It took preparation and the PIE channel was just the condiut. I for one like organization and these guys offered it. You guys were just unprepared. Period. You all are losing horribly. Instead of spewing this nonsense, be proactive and gather troops to retaliate. Man up. If not, just shut your mouth, tuck your tail between your legs, take your losses like a man and deal with it.
Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 417	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:17:00 - [59] - Quote Jack McReady wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: ...now what? Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh? Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards? IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!? So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. You too. HTFU and deal with it. No one wants to continuously hear your whining.
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2740	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:22:00 - [60] - Quote I love how all the Minmatar and Gallente are making excuses now, but a month ago when the same thing happened in their favor they claim it was because they were better, ha. For the record, I acknowledge that there was a design flaw a month ago and that the same thing is happening now just the other way around.

Lea Silencio D3ath D3alers 420	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:28:00 - [61] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: I love how all the Minmatar and Gallente are making excuses now, but a month ago when the same thing happened in their favor they claim it was because they were better, ha. For the record, I acknowledge that there was a design flaw a month ago and that the same thing is happening now just the other way around. And tbh, I commend you PIE guys for acknowleding that it was broken and rather than moan about it, you offered your prespective on the problems and possible fixes. EVEN now when we are on top, you still acknowledge that FW is a broken mechanic and STILL push towards fixing it and offering solutions. When Minmatar were winning outright, did anyone from that side do the same? Simple answer. No. They just continued staying quiet while they enjoyed their dominance. Smh.
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 81	Posted - 2013.10.11 17:40:00 - [62] - Quote LOL No Team Truefail Blue tags yet huh? Hey Foxfail do you care to plead your case on this LOL matter? Pffff Competitive MMO, lol! What a joke.
First Prophet Unkn0wn Killers 1192	Posted - 2013.10.11 18:50:00 - [63] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: First Prophet wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here. MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs. Maybe the semi auto scramblers, but I really see assault scramblers. Also the MDs died? Could of fooled me. I see them everywhere left and right. MDs are no where near as good as ARs/Scramblers with aim assist. It saddened me greatly to replace my MD with an exile in my fits. :(
Aero Yassavi PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2741	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:18:00 - [64] - Quote First Prophet wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: First Prophet wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Coleman Gray wrote: The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here. MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs. Maybe the semi auto scramblers, but I really see assault scramblers. Also the MDs died? Could of fooled me. I see them everywhere left and right. MDs are no where near as good as ARs/Scramblers with aim assist. It saddened me greatly to replace my MD with an exile in my fits. :( I love how your throwing in scramblers right next to ARs as if they are anywhere remotely near the same level of usage. I'd bet more people use MDs than scramblers.
iceyburnz Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 1077	Posted - 2013.10.11 19:22:00 - [65] - Quote Im sure if the races had all suit and basic weapon types it would have been a different story. :( #soreloser.


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