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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.10 20:33:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol
Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.10.10 21:46:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
The FW system is dominated by players exploiting the LP of a certain faction to sell their ships on the market. But I see what you mean, with the Minmatar dominating in this example does this mean Amarr Navy Ships will increase in value? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.10 22:28:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. On my tank alt I activated my nitrous and ran you over, I hope that tasted good 
Its always is funny. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.10 22:29:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store. The FW system is dominated by players exploiting the LP of a certain faction to sell their ships on the market. But I see what you mean, with the Minmatar dominating in this example does this mean Amarr Navy Ships will increase in value? Yes. Have you not seen this? When the Minmatar militia is winning, the value of firetails drops significantly and the value of slicers increases significantly. The only variable here is the LP value. There is no mechanic even remotely like the rewards system we are seeing here. The value of Amarr equipment did not increase when they were getting stomped, and the value of Minmatar equipment will not increase here now. Thus, this is not how EVE side FW works.
Not necessarily for the Amarr yet, but I do know its happening for the Minnies, oir has been. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:53:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D
He also hasn't seen the epic ONI fit or Navy Apocs I have. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:46:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?"
Must have been fun while it lasted.......... a lot of us hopped in to help because Amarr was the losing team... reversed in 48hrs? who'da thunkit? /shrug
Damn right and we told you this. When numbers get equalised we get competitive, when they are not its utterly devastating to the war effort. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:48:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction
so the amarr players would be on top
they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top
Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards. That's what I did. Shiny rewards - it's how I roll. Munch
But those who tend to fight for the imperialistic groups in my experience are by far in large better than those who run punk kid scavenger. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 07:45:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol
HEH except Amarrians, who you know.. are LOYAL to their faction.And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs ....
Indeed.
But King don't even bother with these guys, were not here to brag, were here to make sure the Empire is safe from their threats.
I feel like I have bothered to respond to ignorance, weak minded comments, and more over the threats against the Empire.
In the end "Service is its own Reward" as one of the PIE officers would say, Serve is what we do. Victory is what we must achieve, and vigilant we must be in the face of the enemy.
I am very happy to hear of your initiative in AIC. Keep true to the tenets of the Amarr, we are dignified, diligent, faithful, and above all God's chosen people.
Let them bicker and moan. Ours is an immortal destiny. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:09:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty.
Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2841
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:20:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. in short: just because some kids smacktalked last week you decided to drop down to their level and do it too? 
No my point from that comment is that many people have said its only the rewards keeping the Am/Cal FW efforts in charge, however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet.
Hands down the Amarr and GAllente are the better organised militias.
All the Minnies have going for them in popular opinion. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:33:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote:however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet. I really do doubt that. Pubstompers look at the rewards, see that the Caldari/Amarr rewards are more favourable. Create squads and PIE take the credit? Sure....
Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:01:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust.
Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to **** on the work everyone else has done? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to **** on the work everyone else has done? Most of the stuff True listed was Dust side, so why not give credit? Because you can't accept you got beat? Pro-tip: Winning in faction warfare isn't about being a better player, it's about being a better organizer and planner.
Glad we have Gavin and the Captains.... the **** they think of is insane. |
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