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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2834
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Posted - 2013.10.11 02:53:00 -
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Beld Errmon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D He also hasn't seen the epic ONI fit or Navy Apocs I have. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1439
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:40:00 -
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CrotchGrab 360 wrote:due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?"
Must have been fun while it lasted.......... a lot of us hopped in to help because Amarr was the losing team... reversed in 48hrs? who'da thunkit? /shrug |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
4075
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:42:00 -
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'Course, if CCP were to let us choose our prizes...
No, scratch that. Makes too much sense.
_________________________________________________________________________________________ Gimmie my damn Amarrian tank and rollover SP. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2836
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:46:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:CrotchGrab 360 wrote:due to the small player count everyone just jumped on a tiny bandwagon and it's like "now what?"
Must have been fun while it lasted.......... a lot of us hopped in to help because Amarr was the losing team... reversed in 48hrs? who'da thunkit? /shrug Damn right and we told you this. When numbers get equalised we get competitive, when they are not its utterly devastating to the war effort. |
Poonmunch
Sanguis Defense Syndicate
490
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:46:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top
they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top
Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards.
That's what I did.
Shiny rewards - it's how I roll.
Munch |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2836
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Posted - 2013.10.11 03:48:00 -
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Poonmunch wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote:all CCP did was flip whatever FW glich that was there before to the othr faction so the amarr players would be on top
they never actually worked out the bug that was causing minmatar to be on top
Actually it's rather simple - by and large, people prefer to fight against the imperialistic slave traders; not for them. See no bug, no nefarious switch flipping, simply people switching sides to get shiny rewards. That's what I did. Shiny rewards - it's how I roll. Munch But those who tend to fight for the imperialistic groups in my experience are by far in large better than those who run punk kid scavenger. |
Nap-Time
Swamp Marines Kleenex Inc.
3
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol Harden up that's how EVE side FW always is No, it really isn't. In EVE FW, the economy and the LP system help to balance the warzone because if one faction starts to dominate the value of LP from the opposing faction skyrockets. There is no such mechanic here, as there is neither an LP store nor an economy. In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
I tend to think its pointless to explain eve mechanics to a bunch of console players... However +1 for your effort...
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
117
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:51:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Can someone link me to where it shows the standings of Amarr vs Minmitar?
ditto |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
217
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:54:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers.
Bird brain answer for Bird brain question:
Get a character on another faction, take back a bunch of territory, then retake it again... |
KING CHECKMATE
AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS
1691
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Posted - 2013.10.11 04:55:00 -
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Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol
HEH except Amarrians, who you know.. are LOYAL to their faction.
And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 07:45:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol HEH except Amarrians, who you know.. are LOYAL to their faction.And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Indeed.
But King don't even bother with these guys, were not here to brag, were here to make sure the Empire is safe from their threats.
I feel like I have bothered to respond to ignorance, weak minded comments, and more over the threats against the Empire.
In the end "Service is its own Reward" as one of the PIE officers would say, Serve is what we do. Victory is what we must achieve, and vigilant we must be in the face of the enemy.
I am very happy to hear of your initiative in AIC. Keep true to the tenets of the Amarr, we are dignified, diligent, faithful, and above all God's chosen people.
Let them bicker and moan. Ours is an immortal destiny. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
669
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:00:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition?
almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2840
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:09:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty.
Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. |
steadyhand amarr
TeamPlayers EoN.
1532
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Posted - 2013.10.11 08:53:00 -
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Just goes to show when it gets tough the amarr get it together and put real effort into sorting the mess out and the binmatar just point figures |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
669
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Posted - 2013.10.11 09:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. in short: just because some kids smacktalked last week you decided to drop down to their level and do it too?
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
303
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:11:00 -
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This event is a false economy. Totalling up the number of suit/fittings losses to the value of the rewards I'm on the brink of devaluing the rewards.
So what's the point. Anyone else lost more than the value of the rewards?
After the event is over we shall see how long it takes to return control of those systems to matari hands. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2841
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:20:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty. Did this matter last week when you people were telling us you were crushing us both EVE and Dust Side. in short: just because some kids smacktalked last week you decided to drop down to their level and do it too? No my point from that comment is that many people have said its only the rewards keeping the Am/Cal FW efforts in charge, however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet.
Hands down the Amarr and GAllente are the better organised militias.
All the Minnies have going for them in popular opinion. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
303
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet.
I really do doubt that.
Pubstompers look at the rewards, see that the Caldari/Amarr rewards are more favourable. Create squads and PIE take the credit?
Sure....
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2841
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:33:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote:however you forget that a **** ton of effort went into coordinating that entire effort between ground and fleet. I really do doubt that. Pubstompers look at the rewards, see that the Caldari/Amarr rewards are more favourable. Create squads and PIE take the credit? Sure.... Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death The Shadow Eclipse
303
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Posted - 2013.10.11 10:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance.
OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. |
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2843
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:01:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to **** on the work everyone else has done? |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2735
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to **** on the work everyone else has done? Most of the stuff True listed was Dust side, so why not give credit? Because you can't accept you got beat?
Pro-tip: Winning in faction warfare isn't about being a better player, it's about being a better organizer and planner. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2844
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Posted - 2013.10.11 11:09:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust. Why not? because your lazy asses got beat down you have to **** on the work everyone else has done? Most of the stuff True listed was Dust side, so why not give credit? Because you can't accept you got beat? Pro-tip: Winning in faction warfare isn't about being a better player, it's about being a better organizer and planner. Glad we have Gavin and the Captains.... the **** they think of is insane. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3812
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Yes. Have you not seen this? When the Minmatar militia is winning, the value of firetails drops significantly and the value of slicers increases significantly. The only variable here is the LP value. There is no mechanic even remotely like the rewards system we are seeing here. The value of Amarr equipment did not increase when they were getting stomped, and the value of Minmatar equipment will not increase here now.
Thus, this is not how EVE side FW works.
Not necessarily for the Amarr yet, but I do know its happening for the Minnies, oir has been.
It has happened to the Amarr. Slicers have been twice the price of Firetails in some trade hubs.
True Adamance wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
In addition, none of the factions in EVE have nothing but useless items in their LP store.
You've obviously never seen the Syndicates LP store :D He also hasn't seen the epic ONI fit or Navy Apocs I have.
I meant the FW stores. Neither of those mentioned are fail ships - ONIs and Napocs are potentially excellent ships. |
First Prophet
Unkn0wn Killers
1191
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:46:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here.
MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2739
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:51:00 -
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First Prophet wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Coleman Gray wrote:The events a botched job by offering what it did as rewards, it wasn't so much "fight for YOUR faction" rather than "Pick the faction you want the rewards for" and so everyone pretty much went Amarr lol And dont come with that REWARDS HAS TO DO WITH IT BS, because SNIPER RIFLES and MASS DRIVERS are a LOT more common than ASCRs .... Total BS here. MDs died with Aim Assist, and Scrambler's are the second most common weapon next to Gallente ARs. Maybe the semi auto scramblers, but I really see assault scramblers. Also the MDs died? Could of fooled me. I see them everywhere left and right. |
Smooth Assassin
Stardust incorporation
229
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Posted - 2013.10.11 16:52:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. You notice you had minmatars in your team? |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
417
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:16:00 -
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Rogue Saint wrote:True Adamance wrote: Yeah because gaining 30+ people in one channel, Q-Syncing them, Co-ordinating ground and space ops, running Plexing fleets, running roaming fleets, running Hub Bash Fleets, gaining 80% of the warzone and 8 systems in one single day was not a lot of work.
**** your ignorance. OK, I'll give you credit for the EvE side, but not dust.
You should. It took preparation and the PIE channel was just the condiut. I for one like organization and these guys offered it. You guys were just unprepared. Period.
You all are losing horribly. Instead of spewing this nonsense, be proactive and gather troops to retaliate. Man up.
If not, just shut your mouth, tuck your tail between your legs, take your losses like a man and deal with it.
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Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
417
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:17:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:...now what?
Amarr owns everything and Scotty is making it known by giving constant errors since we have no districts to attack. I personally only play Amarr FW so I guess it's time for me to put down the sticks until the Minnies take some districts back eh?
Another problem - since the Amarr swept in so quickly and took everything, I'm sure many players didn't get the chance to fulfill the Amarr FW award parameters. Do those possible awards simply become vaporware for those players since they didn't get the chance to play that many matches before we assumed complete control? Are we all expected to simply swap over to our allies faction and go for their rewards instead since some of us may be unable to attain the Amarr awards?
IS FW SIMPLY A TOTAL MESS BOTCHED BY CCP?!?
So many questions regarding FW....so little answers. you crushed what? the empty teams in the opposition? almost everyone went for amarr FW due to the event rewards, everytime I join a match for Minmatar faction my team is half empty.
You too. HTFU and deal with it.
No one wants to continuously hear your whining. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2740
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Posted - 2013.10.11 17:22:00 -
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I love how all the Minmatar and Gallente are making excuses now, but a month ago when the same thing happened in their favor they claim it was because they were better, ha.
For the record, I acknowledge that there was a design flaw a month ago and that the same thing is happening now just the other way around. |
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