Anybody else use a mouse/DS3 combo?

Explain how kB/m turn speed sucks when my corp mate can spin 360 on the spot with a twitch of the wrist?

No troll. Thank you for your input.

I honestly have no clue how he does this, and don't know of any other kb/m user that has this capability. Can you ask him his settings, what mouse he uses, as well as how he can turn 360 degrees quickly? I personally have my sensitivity up to 90, and on my mouse I can adjust my dpi settings which I keep on the highest, and it takes two to three swipes just to get 180, and it is inaccurate and slow to boot.

That sounds like some frantic crazy sht mate lol

How can a kb/m affect strafing speed? Are you saying that pressing a or d makes me move faster than a DS3 moving the stick left or right?

If not, then move your chubby fingers faster you damn controller monkeys.

KB/M left-right strafing:

1. Press A - instantly 100% speed strafe left
2. Press D - instantly 100% speed strafe right
Commentary: It is impossible to make the keys do less than 100% instant movement speed. They are digital - you move 100% or don't move. So you can - in fact, it is hard not to - achieve instant change from 100% left to 100% right by alternating A and D.

DS3 left-right strafing:

1. Push left on DS3 stick - instantly there is something like 5% movement left.
2. Then it is 10%, then 20%, then 30%, as you move the stick further left.
3. You only reach 100% movement left speed with the stick at (I believe) 95% to the left.
4. Push right on DS3 stick - you first go through 90%, 80%, 70% LEFT (i.e. the opposite of what you want...) as you move the stick from it's 95% left position.
5. Eventually you reach the central (neutral) position, then 5%, 10%, etc movement right.
6. You only reach 100% movement right speed with the stick at (I believe) 95% to the right.
Commentary: It is impossible to make the DS3 do more than 5% (approx) instant movement speed. It is analogue - you cannot help but 5%, then 10%, etc as the stick slides across. So you cannot achieve instant change from 100% left to 100% right by alternating left and right; the biggest instant change you can achieve from 100% left is to go to something like 90% left (the wrong direction).

Actually is it even possible to tone it down?

Lol, with the ridiculous auto aim ds3 gets, I don't even play with kb/my any more. I know of others that have out right quit due to ds3 being completely superior in killing ability. If you take away strafe from my kb/my then it's only fair to give it aim assist as well. If you want both control schemes to behave exactly the same, better not complain when the actually do. I did retest kb/my, and with sensitivity maxed, you can now 360 in one swipe, but at the same time it is very difficult to keep sights on target due to the sensitivity being to high. Turned down to were it is easy to track a target, and getting side from your flank or rear and you are dead, because it will take multiple swipes to turn to see the enemy shooting at you.

I use KBM and my turn speed has always been incredibly slow, only after 1.5 can I actually turn a 180 without having to pick my mouse up and swipe it back across the pad (only have to when I try doing a full 360 now :P) and that's with my sensitivity at 100.

Thank you for the quality input.

Hmmm. Sounds like you're implying that it takes you more than 0.2 seconds to sweep the left stick from full left to full right. That must be one huge sweep ark. What do you have for a left d-stick, an ape hanger?

While we are fighting and shooting, every second counts. so that .2 extra seconds slower then your strafing makes all the difference
i personally could care less about all this, just was reading through here while i wait for my squad to deploy lmfao

DS3- my personally favorite, can't help but to love the controllers. sweet nostalgia..

You have completely missed the point.

The instantaneous left and right strafe with a k/b and mouse is an advantage over the controllers slower movement acceleration allowing for quicker strafing left and right. Iv played far more fps on PC than console and I am shocked this kind of blatant advantage is allowed against controller users lol.

If there's nothing announced about momentum being added to the keyboard strafing within a month I'll be switching to k/b and mouse.

Its not a debatable subject, the k/b and mouse allows for instant strafing left or right which is an advantage over the controllers strafe acceleration which whether you agree or not, is slower to respond because of momentum. The k/b and mouse instantly responds because there's no momentum with the k/b. Iv played fps on PC since 1996 so again if you don't understand how this is an advantage then that's your own a ignorance, I'd like to see momentum added to the k/b movement so its in line with the controller, its not a nerf.

I don't know how much much more simple I can make it, I hope you actually understand now lol.

Its not a debatable subject, the k/b and mouse allows for instant strafing left or right which is an advantage over the controllers strafe acceleration which whether you agree or not, is slower to respond because of momentum. The k/b and mouse instantly responds because there's no momentum with the k/b. Iv played fps on PC since 1996 so again if you don't understand how this is an advantage then that's your own a ignorance, I'd like to see momentum added to the k/b movement so its in line with the controller, its not a nerf.

I don't know how much much more simple I can make it, I hope you actually understand now lol.

Ah well, if you want to go there... You admit that I have 4+ years more experience than you playing PC FPS. I also have arcade experience going back to 1974 and console gaming going back to 1977.

I understand the misguided point you're trying to make. I say it's misguided as I have actually tested this in game to see that I can get the same strafe results with both controller and keyboard. If you can't get the same results, train your left thumb. The advantage, if any, is negligible. It's like saying that if someone's arm is .001 millimeters longer than your's then they have a undeniable advantage in reach height. The difference is actually so small as to be unnoticeable.

Ah well, if you want to go there... You admit that I have 4+ years more experience than you playing PC FPS. I also have arcade experience going back to 1974 and console gaming going back to 1977.

I understand the misguided point you're trying to make. I say it's misguided as I have actually tested this in game to see that I can get the same strafe results with both controller and keyboard. If you can't get the same results, train your left thumb. The advantage, if any, is negligible. It's like saying that if someone's arm is .001 millimeters longer than your's then they have a undeniable advantage in reach height. The difference is actually so small as to be unnoticeable.

It could just be that because I'm way better with k/b and mouse i see this as an advantage, when I switch to it from controller that slight increase in left and right strafe switching will definitely give me an edge.

It won't give you the edge you think it will and you'll loose the auto-aim edge the controller gives you. But you're more than welcome to join the keyboard/mouse community.

Iv played fps on PC since 1996

How many times are you gunna throw that out there like it means something?

Congrats you were playing games in the 90s and own a pc you are in the exclusive club of just about everybody.

Take away DS3s momentum and make them twitch left and right at 100%, problem solved, but wait that would mess with controller users aim that they've gained after months of not having their control scheme tweaked with every Fing patch, lets just tweak the KB and mouse a bit more, they won't mind getting bent over a little bit more.

I have never known anyone to use auto aim on a k/b and mouse, its not needed.