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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
316
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:00:00 -
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Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2650
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:05:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit?
Oh, wait... |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
117
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
316
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait...
Exacto. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
520
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 -
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Zeylon Rho wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait...
Wat? |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
316
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:08:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
That really doesn't answer my question... therefore irrelevant. |
Azura Sakura
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
520
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:10:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
That same logi will win you the game. But I do hate uplink spam. No tatics involved, they should just let 1 uplink per equipment slot or whatever you call it. |
Delanus Turgias
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
141
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:18:00 -
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Azura Sakura wrote:Zeylon Rho wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait... Wat?
Before your time, newbro. Before your time. |
Chances Ghost
ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
1159
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:23:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
i run logi and my equips are scanner/nano/RE
with a SMG/MD/AR as the weapon i use to bait with.
i top charts and usually have the most kills on my team in my sever logi.
my kills come from the remotes more then anything else easily accounting for at least 75% of my kills.
tell me again that i should be a "medic", what other suit could allow this playstyle, and that i have no skill. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
276
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:25:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Good job at immediately resorting to personal attacks. You must be a mature grown up person, huh? |
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9231
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:27:00 -
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I wouldn't call them medics.
Battlefield Facilitators, they make combat happen! |
Meeko Fent
DUST University
Ivy League
1073
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:28:00 -
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I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics.... |
Dimmu Borgir II
Bannana Boat Corp
149
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:29:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
If they're topping the charts with 2/10 it's because they're being useful you ungrateful A55HOLE! You think they just give you random warpoints for dropping uplinks in dodgy locations that no-one uses or for dropping a nanohive where it's useless to team-mates??! We logis are the one's that are propping up your precious KDR and your under-estimaded win ratio you selfish TVVAT!! |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
317
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:31:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics....
On a lot of threads I have seen Assault s complain that logistics are not "doing their role" and not reviving/repping. |
Chances Ghost
ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
1159
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:33:00 -
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Meeko Fent wrote:I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics....
lurk moar
seriously though the issue comes up ALOT.
it was a more popular complaint during the reign of the calogi assault, but its still around and people bring it up when they get killed by logis that are doing something other then running around res/repping people
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
56
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:44:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
Yeah, I know. A lot of people who aren't logis thaink that we should always stay in the back and healing everyone and that we shouldn't run assualt stuff or anything. I actually read a thread once about how all logis should have toier Light Weapon Slot replaced with an armor repairer.
Then there are those people who believe that logis are OP just because the have multiple equipment slots and that they have way to much CPU and think that we should have the same amount of CPU/PG as everyone else. But without that load of high CPU would we be able to even fit all that equipment?
People who cry about getting killed by logis need to quit QQing, and pick up a gun and learn how to play this game.
And don't even get me started on people saying mass drivers need nerfing. And FOTM players sicken me. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
611
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:52:00 -
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Because Logistics cruisers are medics in EVE. They repair hull/shield and replenish capacitor. They can also "buff" the fleet with tracking links etc. Carriers are also logistics but they carry fighters and drones for damage too. Most just use their carriers to move their stuff around though. |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
128
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:53:00 -
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Logis are a support class and medic comes under support. So a medic should be a logi, but not the other way around.
Or you could put a repair tool on a scout because screw conventions. |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr.
EoN.
258
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:54:00 -
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The logistics suit is the best suit for determining the front line, assaults can do it as well but nowhere near as efficiently. Placement of nano hives, uplinks and use of repair tools and injectors really do determine where the fighting takes place. You don't have to run as that setup as a logi, and many don't but people expect it due to the fact you have the ability. When running as a solo you really can't build your suit to adapt to your squad layout or your teams needs, but when your in a squad, 1 logi setup as support and one setup as offence can be quite deadly if they work together. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
56
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Posted - 2013.10.06 20:54:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Hey umm. I gotta question, when you run out of ammo do you drive all the way to the nearest supply depot? When you die and don't have the Objective or a CRU do you hope that you can drive back in time before being redlined? When your about to die, do you hope that your armor will heal up before the enemies come? (Which it most certaintly wont without complex armor repairers)
I am both a triage and assualt logi and it is by no means easy. (less HP, more responsibility, and oh yeah EVERYBODY TRIES TO KILL YOU FIRST! )
We have lots of responsibilieties, and our yellow colors are a big "hit me" tag. And yeah that makes logistics the hard mode of the game.  |
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KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1602
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Posted - 2013.10.06 21:16:00 -
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''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?''
Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so?
STILL....
The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic.
Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters.
We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one.
With 1 or 2 side arm slots.
2 equipment slots
speed and enough slots.
Say:
Caldari Medic Med Frame:
Shields: 200
Armor: 50
Stamina: 180
Speed: 7.2
Side arm slot : 2
Equipment Slot: 2
High slots : 5
Low Slots : 3
Shield recharge:6
Shield Depleted: 8
Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like.
A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor)
And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like=
GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives
GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines.
GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks
GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools
This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector.
Just a random idea... |
Broonfondle Majikthies
Bannana Boat Corp
298
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Posted - 2013.10.06 21:18:00 -
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Do Assaults realise how fricking expensive it is to run a logi frame?
The extra slots they all complaining about keep us on your level of survivability because we run an extra plate or extender - That doesn't appear out of thin air. That's straight out of out wallets. Then there's the equipment itself - Not only is it hard to fit all of it in on top of the mods but is often high end stuff that's expensive. And we have to pay more ISK for the equipment that's easier to fit in.
Honestly, have you seen the fitting requirements for a Quantum Scanner? Ok a**hole Assaults, you hold it while I 'focus on my role as a medi' see how you like it -_- |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1136
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Posted - 2013.10.06 21:27:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Of someone is topping the charts and foing 2/10 then they are a good logi as they probably put ammo out for everyone at the mainnengagement points they probably loose allot of suits keepingbother mercs in the fight by reppong and rezing and resupplying . Dont hate the logi... |
Aria Gomes
DUST CORE
DARKSTAR ARMY
59
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:07:00 -
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I've been playing as a Logi lately, (wanted to help out the team) and I kind of like it. Most of the time, I drop a link near an objective, drop a hive for some people when they're having a shoot out, as well as scan enemies so I can kill any enemies that might try to help the enemy. Once I die, I usually just go back to my Assault and scan or put a link around. Supportive Assaults FTW. After I die two times, I start all over with my Logi fit(just a basic). |
Seigfried Warheit
Pradox XVI
43
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:09:00 -
[25] - Quote
All this logi hate is stupid....Im sorry I have a gun and I can kill things, Im sorry Im not a piece of equipment you can place somewhere and comeback to for ammo like a pez dispenser or press a button for reps
Some logis do go for medic fit cause they are not good in fire fights and that is fine but not all logis run that fit and they shouldnt expect all logis to run that fit..I preferably like to have rep on my at all times cause I love giving logi love  ..but not all do that. Some have remotes explosives to protect objectives,some have uplinks to drop so when a teamate dies they come back to the squad faster, some have a scanner so the squad is focused on shooting while the logi is spinning around in circles for you etc etc.
I have a gun..Im gonna gun your arse down..wanna only gives us sidearms? Fine Ill still gun your arse down as long as I have a gun in my hands your gonna die.
PS Need Logi Love? Come no further! This logi loves giving logi love ..just bash me in the face with the butt of your gun cause I cant see your hp anymore unless I aim at you..and Im not aiming at you Im aiming at those strawberries.
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Chances Ghost
ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings
1161
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:12:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?''
Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so?
STILL....
The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic.
Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters.
We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one.
With 1 or 2 side arm slots.
2 equipment slots
speed and enough slots.
Say:
Caldari Medic Med Frame:
Shields: 200
Armor: 50
Stamina: 180
Speed: 7.2
Side arm slot : 2
Equipment Slot: 2
High slots : 5
Low Slots : 3
Shield recharge:6
Shield Depleted: 8
Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like.
A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor)
And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like=
GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives
GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines.
GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks
GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools
This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector.
Just a random idea...
the old type 2/B logi filled this role and it was my prefered suit, unfortunatly they took it out of the game and so i got |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
813
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:14:00 -
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We don't expect logi units to be medics, we just expect assaults to be better assaults. I personalky think we would be better off completely removing ASSAULT suits, and give racial bonuses at racial dropsuit command.
We would then be free to add a new specialisation to medium suits, like a grenadier or something else.
Assault suits should be the racial standard suits! |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
513
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:18:00 -
[28] - Quote
They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. |
skippy678
F.T.U.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:21:00 -
[29] - Quote
your slow man...you gonna be a medic with 1 equiptment slot? your not very bright , maybe you should go back to posting about getting pubstomped or keep on shooting at the MCC
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
320
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:21:00 -
[30] - Quote
Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go.
Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic. |
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skippy678
F.T.U.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:26:00 -
[31] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic.
2 choices....
1 nanite injector...
or...
repair tool
nanite injector
repair nano hive...
pick one of these and u will know if your a good medic...heres a hint ...its having more choice in the logi...we wouldnt even let you run with our squad if u tried to medic with an assult suit, but your welcome to troll our chat and beg for ISK like everyone else
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skippy678
F.T.U.
96
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:28:00 -
[32] - Quote
skippy678 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic. 2 choices.... 1 nanite injector... or... repair tool nanite injector repair nano hive... pick one of these and u will know if your a good medic...heres a hint ...its having more choice in the logi...we wouldnt even let you run with our squad if u tried to medic with an assult suit, but your welcome to troll our chat and beg for ISK like everyone else PLUS...CCP's very own starter fit medic suit is a logi.....again makes sence
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Mejt0
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
40
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:34:00 -
[33] - Quote
Logis medics? Lol funny...there everything. Logi scout, battle logi, support logi. Assault is almost usless when logi can fit 1k ehp , duvolle and adv eq. Why we complain? Bec logis can fit assault,but better and have eq.
Not just telling about callogi. Gallente (with best logi racial bonus) can fit duvolle,2 compx dmg mods,600+armor and adv/pro eq. Cal have his 1k ehp. Who said assaults have more hp morons?
Nvm these post will give nothing :d. Logis will still dominate game. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
320
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:35:00 -
[34] - Quote
skippy678 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic. 2 choices.... 1 nanite injector... or... repair tool nanite injector repair nano hive... pick one of these and u will know if your a good medic...heres a hint ...its having more choice in the logi...we wouldnt even let you run with our squad if u tried to medic with an assult suit, but your welcome to troll our chat and beg for ISK like everyone else
What does the assault have to do with anything? CCP didn't make a medic suit. No medics yet, it's optional.
Mejt0 wrote:Logis medics? Lol funny...there everything. Logi scout, battle logi, support logi. Assault is almost usless when logi can fit 1k ehp , duvolle and adv eq. Why we complain? Bec logis can fit assault,but better and have eq.
Not just telling about callogi. Gallente (with best logi racial bonus) can fit duvolle,2 compx dmg mods,600+armor and adv/pro eq. Cal have his 1k ehp. Who said assaults have more hp morons?
Nvm these post will give nothing :d. Logis will still dominate game.
Assaults dominate the game... even after they were nerfed/buffed. The logistics are screwed after they waste a clip. Therefore crippling their Assault ability, along with their gimped speed/stamina/regen etc... |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
814
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:40:00 -
[35] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:skippy678 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic. 2 choices.... 1 nanite injector... or... repair tool nanite injector repair nano hive... pick one of these and u will know if your a good medic...heres a hint ...its having more choice in the logi...we wouldnt even let you run with our squad if u tried to medic with an assult suit, but your welcome to troll our chat and beg for ISK like everyone else What does the assault have to do with anything? CCP didn't make a medic suit. No medics yet, it's optional.
Because a logistics suit is support specialist, it doesn't necessarily mean medic only, but it is a role a logi does better than any other suit. 4eq slots allow 2 sets of triage, 1 needle, 1 repper. Thats 4+ù the triage ability of an assult suit!
Add in a logi doing a combat engineer role who runs, re, pre, ammo hives, scanner, and/or sheild bubbles eventually and you get 2 assults that make your 4 assults godlike!
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Mejt0
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
40
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:44:00 -
[36] - Quote
LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:49:00 -
[37] - Quote
Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime
And yet no sidearm and the speed/stamina of the assault. 1 vs 1 the Assault would win. They are fine right now. Just bring a Carthum and they are insta kill anyways. |
Seigfried Warheit
Pradox XVI
45
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:51:00 -
[38] - Quote
Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime
They are using a proto suit with proto mods..did you think proto is suppose to be squishy? So your not QQing about logis you are QQing about proto suits.... there was a thread about that somewhere maybe go post there
Also I would like to know where you are able to see other peoples fits cause I cant see what modules the enemy is using.... |
Mejt0
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
40
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:53:00 -
[39] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime And yet no sidearm and the speed/stamina of the assault. 1 vs 1 the Assault would win. They are fine right now. Just bring a Carthum and they are insta kill anyways.
Its not that easy lol. Yes we have some more stamina. And? Most firefights are in towns or cqc. My only question is... why they have more dmg than assaults? More hp,more dmg, then assault have only more stamina.
Without sidearm they need 15shoots to kill you. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
464
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:53:00 -
[40] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Are you brainless?!
LOGIS CAN ONLY DROP AS MUCH EQUIPMENT AS THE EQUIPMENT ALLOWS THEM TO.
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Mejt0
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
40
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:55:00 -
[41] - Quote
Seigfried Warheit wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime They are using a proto suit with proto mods..did you think proto is suppose to be squishy? So your not QQing about logis you are QQing about proto suits.... there was a thread about that somewhere maybe go post there Also I would like to know where you are able to see other peoples fits cause I cant see what modules the enemy is using....
Sorry for 2nd post. Its easy to know what modules they have. You can see dmg done in time, and thiers hp. Its not proto qq. Proto assault is nothing when compared to proto logi. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2013.10.06 22:57:00 -
[42] - Quote
Mejt0 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime And yet no sidearm and the speed/stamina of the assault. 1 vs 1 the Assault would win. They are fine right now. Just bring a Carthum and they are insta kill anyways. Its not that easy lol. Yes we have some more stamina. And? Most firefights are in towns or cqc. My only question is... why they have more dmg than assaults? More hp,more dmg, then assault have only more stamina. Without sidearm they need 15shoots to kill you.
Have you ever heard of Gallente/Amarr assault dropsuits? They can do the same thing while having more speed/stamina. Just need one flank and they are dead. Us assaults should know better... |
Beforcial
REAPERS REPUBLIC
26
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:02:00 -
[43] - Quote
I'll repeat this post here again but that's because it's more fitting here then that other thread...
Origins and definition
The prevalent view is that term logistics comes from the late 19th century: from French logistique (loger means to lodge). Others attribute a Greek origin to the word: ++-î+¦++-é (pronounced logos) meaning reason or speech, +++++¦+¦-â-ä+¦+¦++-éb (prononced logistikos) meaning accountant or responsible for counting.[1]
The Oxford English Dictionary defines logistics as "the branch of military science relating to procuring, maintaining and transporting material, personnel and facilities." However, the New Oxford American Dictionary defines logistics as "the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies", and the Oxford Dictionary on-line defines it as "the detailed organization and implementation of a complex operation".[2] Another dictionary definition is "the time-related positioning of resources". As such, logistics is commonly seen as a branch of engineering that creates "people systems" rather than "machine systems".
According to the Council of Logistics Management, logistics includes the integrated planning, control, realization, and monitoring of all internal and network-wide material, part, and product flow, including the necessary information flow, industrial and trading companies along the complete value-added chain (and product life cycle) for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements.
Logistics is the process of planning, implementing, and controlling the effective and efficient flow of goods and services from the point of origin to the point of consumption
The role is bigger then what is imagined.
In ours squads we have nano-injectors as a must tool and logis carry those too and the extra hives (not the other way around) plus uplinks or scanners or repers. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1609
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:02:00 -
[44] - Quote
Poeple are just exagerating now.
An Amarr Assault with 2 Cx damage mods 1 Cx Shield Ext, 2 EH or Cx Armor plates and a repairer can boost 850+ HP and with an imperial Scrambler Rifle MAke short of whatever gets i its sights, from scouts and logis,all the way to the heaviest heavy.... |
Mejt0
Legion of Eden
Covert Intervention
40
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime And yet no sidearm and the speed/stamina of the assault. 1 vs 1 the Assault would win. They are fine right now. Just bring a Carthum and they are insta kill anyways. Its not that easy lol. Yes we have some more stamina. And? Most firefights are in towns or cqc. My only question is... why they have more dmg than assaults? More hp,more dmg, then assault have only more stamina. Without sidearm they need 15shoots to kill you. Have you ever heard of Gallente/Amarr assault dropsuits? They can do the same thing while having more speed/stamina. Just need one flank and they are dead. Us assaults should know better...
You forgot they CAN scan you!! Heared of it? Scan, rep hive, ..hey im gonna kill that assault whos going towards me :D.. yay 50wp for me. Thanks! |
Slightly-Mental
Zumari Force Projection
Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2013.10.06 23:22:00 -
[46] - Quote
Beforcial wrote:I'll repeat this post here again but that's because it's more fitting here then that other thread...
Origins and definition
The prevalent view is that term logistics comes from the late 19th century: from French logistique (loger means to lodge). Others attribute a Greek origin to the word: ++-î+¦++-é (pronounced logos) meaning reason or speech, +++++¦+¦-â-ä+¦+¦++-éb (prononced logistikos) meaning accountant or responsible for counting.[1]
The Oxford English Dictionary defines logistics as "the branch of military science relating to procuring, maintaining and transporting material, personnel and facilities." However, the New Oxford American Dictionary defines logistics as "the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies", and the Oxford Dictionary on-line defines it as "the detailed organization and implementation of a complex operation".[2] Another dictionary definition is "the time-related positioning of resources". As such, logistics is commonly seen as a branch of engineering that creates "people systems" rather than "machine systems".
According to the Council of Logistics Management, logistics includes the integrated planning, control, realization, and monitoring of all internal and network-wide material, part, and product flow, including the necessary information flow, industrial and trading companies along the complete value-added chain (and product life cycle) for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements.
Logistics is the process of planning, implementing, and controlling the effective and efficient flow of goods and services from the point of origin to the point of consumption
The role is bigger then what is imagined.
In ours squads we have nano-injectors as a must tool and logis carry those too and the extra hives (not the other way around) plus uplinks or scanners or repers.
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Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
133
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:13:00 -
[47] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Maybe you people should try healing people. Seems to turn the tide of battle. Maybe res and heal huh. Uplinks and nano are not the only equipment available. |
Tebu Gan
CrimeWave Syndicate
133
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:15:00 -
[48] - Quote
Beforcial wrote:I'll repeat this post here again but that's because it's more fitting here then that other thread...
Origins and definition
The prevalent view is that term logistics comes from the late 19th century: from French logistique (loger means to lodge). Others attribute a Greek origin to the word: ++-î+¦++-é (pronounced logos) meaning reason or speech, +++++¦+¦-â-ä+¦+¦++-éb (prononced logistikos) meaning accountant or responsible for counting.[1]
The Oxford English Dictionary defines logistics as "the branch of military science relating to procuring, maintaining and transporting material, personnel and facilities." However, the New Oxford American Dictionary defines logistics as "the detailed coordination of a complex operation involving many people, facilities, or supplies", and the Oxford Dictionary on-line defines it as "the detailed organization and implementation of a complex operation".[2] Another dictionary definition is "the time-related positioning of resources". As such, logistics is commonly seen as a branch of engineering that creates "people systems" rather than "machine systems".
According to the Council of Logistics Management, logistics includes the integrated planning, control, realization, and monitoring of all internal and network-wide material, part, and product flow, including the necessary information flow, industrial and trading companies along the complete value-added chain (and product life cycle) for the purpose of conforming to customer requirements.
Logistics is the process of planning, implementing, and controlling the effective and efficient flow of goods and services from the point of origin to the point of consumption
The role is bigger then what is imagined.
In ours squads we have nano-injectors as a must tool and logis carry those too and the extra hives (not the other way around) plus uplinks or scanners or repers.
Interesting information. My logi always runs with injectors and Reps. When I get advanced, hives as well. |
Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:16:00 -
[49] - Quote
Mejt0 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Mejt0 wrote:LOGI is just too versaible. You can do medic role and assault role at once. How many times you saw logi with pro gun,dmg mods, 700-900ehp and uplinks/nanos? Everytime And yet no sidearm and the speed/stamina of the assault. 1 vs 1 the Assault would win. They are fine right now. Just bring a Carthum and they are insta kill anyways. Its not that easy lol. Yes we have some more stamina. And? Most firefights are in towns or cqc. My only question is... why they have more dmg than assaults? More hp,more dmg, then assault have only more stamina. Without sidearm they need 15shoots to kill you. Have you ever heard of Gallente/Amarr assault dropsuits? They can do the same thing while having more speed/stamina. Just need one flank and they are dead. Us assaults should know better... You forgot they CAN scan you!! Heared of it? Scan, rep hive, ..hey im gonna kill that assault whos going towards me :D.. yay 50wp for me. Thanks!
Anyone on your team can scan the logi, it's being spammed, so unless the logi has 2 enhanced and 1 basic dampeners, making him have less EHP, he too will be as vulnerable as the pure assault. |
TODDSTER024
Revive Repair Resupply
146
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:31:00 -
[50] - Quote
In my three equipment slots i have:nanite injector, nanohive, repair tool.
I always have the needle, dont always have a repper... |
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Tectonic Fusion
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
321
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Posted - 2013.10.07 00:50:00 -
[51] - Quote
TODDSTER024 wrote:In my three equipment slots i have:nanite injector, nanohive, repair tool.
I always have the needle, dont always have a repper...
... the repper is needed so they don't DIE! |
RA Drahcir
Psygod9
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
269
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:34:00 -
[52] - Quote
Zeylon Rho wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait...
No, it uses a basic medium frame. Like CCP will give you unlimited Logi suits to begin with. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2652
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Posted - 2013.10.07 04:43:00 -
[53] - Quote
They aren't. They should me Low DPS, but High EHP suits with the capacity to fulfil a vast number of roles from scanners, to medics , to engineers, to reluctant killers.
Assaults should be low EHP, dependant on Logis, with high DPS. |
Kristoff Atruin
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1156
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:01:00 -
[54] - Quote
Pro gun with pro modules and pro equipment simply is not a thing that happens, unless you use both a CPU and a pg mod in the lows. That seriously gimps your ehp. The gal logi can probably squeeze out a little more performance, but with my fitting skills maxed there is no way I can shoehorn a duvolle onto my minmatar logi suit without sacrificing my gear. And if I do that I'm just a slower medium suit that is more vulnerable in close combat than an assault, and doesn't have the high end links and hives my team mates are relying on to stay in the fight.
One other thing, for all the talk of healing being the focus of logistics. Show me a team in PC that is using repping logis, and I'll show you a team that is getting rolled. Even the injector has little value in competitive play. I have a PC suit that has one on it...it never gets used, because people either get gibbed by explosives or their unconscious body catches a hail of rifle bullets from a mile away that finishes them off. The game just has no place for a medic role right now. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1085
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:07:00 -
[55] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
The Callogi desc. mentions nothing of medic things. That's Gallente. |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1085
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:09:00 -
[56] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:They aren't. They should me Low DPS, but High EHP suits with the capacity to fulfil a vast number of roles from scanners, to medics , to engineers, to reluctant killers.
Assaults should be low EHP, dependant on Logis, with high DPS.
Scanners should be a Scout thing, since it's EWAR. Actually, any EWAR equipment should be bonus to only the Scouts. Not logi, or any other frame. |
LoveNewlooy
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
90
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:28:00 -
[57] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
Because of the name |
Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
420
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:35:00 -
[58] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics.... On a lot of threads I have seen Assault s complain that logistics are not "doing their role" and not reviving/repping.
On my main here I play a Heavy and want the Logi to be whatever is best for winning the battle. At least in my case it is better to bleed out on the ground if it means the objective is hacked or a target is destroyed hopefully winning the match.
On my medium frame alt I play the classic Sever Logi fit. It's gotten harder to do, thank you CCP. |
Void Echo
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
1643
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Posted - 2013.10.07 06:40:00 -
[59] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
lol your getting so much hate for your ignorance |
Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
297
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Posted - 2013.10.07 07:21:00 -
[60] - Quote
Because actively supporting the team is more rewarding than not, and when i think logi i think "guy that is actually doing logi stuff" which medics playstyle revolves around, there arnt alot of equipment that support active logis besides rep tools/injector and active scanners,most equpiment is drop and forget WP generators.
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Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
112
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
Why would I care if people think logi's are medics?
They wanna complain - okay then, just wait while I edit my fitting so as to slot in the worlds tiniest violin for them... |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers
EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. |
Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
630
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:17:00 -
[63] - Quote
Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer.
no equipment for assaults plz ccp assaults will act more killer than support.
see what I did here? you should by now have realized the stupidity in your request... |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
376
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:18:00 -
[64] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
um excuse me but before you go insulting my profession i would like to add the scrub addendum to your statement real logi scores look like this
15-30 kills depending on how good your slayers are in your squad or if your alone 2-4 k wp 1-5 deaths
if you are not killing things your pathetic as a logi. being a logi takes no time there is plenty of time provide support fire for you squad...and if you res someone who was downed in mid to close combat that practically requires a kill to be successful...logi's who run negative kdr are being lazy plain and simple you can easily grab 2-3 k wp ina pub match with scrubs on your team..and if you alone and on the losing side...and your team is being crushed your wp and kills should look like this
3 k-7 k wp
12/11 kdr 11/11 something like that in coordinated pc a logi at the very least pulls a 1 kdr...with plenty of wp..negative kdr is a sign of a bad logi period..the entire point of logi in dust is so save clones ...losing a clone yourself for every person you save is is useless. clearly you have NEVER SEEN A VETERAN LOGI |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2655
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:20:00 -
[65] - Quote
Mortedeamor wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. um excuse me but before you go insulting my profession i would like to add the scrub addendum to your statement real logi scores look like this 15-30 kills depending on how good your slayers are in your squad or if your alone 2-4 k wp 1-5 deaths if you are not killing things your pathetic as a logi. being a logi takes no time there is plenty of time provide support fire for you squad...and if you res someone who was downed in mid to close combat that practically requires a kill to be successful...logi's who run negative kdr are being lazy plain and simple you can easily grab 2-3 k wp ina pub match with scrubs on your team..and if you alone and on the losing side...and your team is being crushed your wp and kills should look like this 3 k-7 k wp 12/11 kdr 11/11 something like that in coordinated pc a logi at the very least pulls a 1 kdr...with plenty of wp..negative kdr is a sign of a bad logi period..the entire point of logi in dust is so save clones ...losing a clone yourself for every person you save is is useless. clearly you have NEVER SEEN A VETERAN LOGI
Prolly hasn't. He should meet Hally or Commander Marquess. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
376
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:25:00 -
[66] - Quote
my standard logi only match looks like this 20/0 2300 wp
if i run av as well add 4-8 kills and another 1-2 k wp
in a coordinated squad i pull less kills naturally and more wp generally...it is not often a full coordinated squad of vets bumps into another skilled enough for me to wp harvest my own squad.
dont go bashing an entire specc just because you have been unfortunate to bump into scrubs for logi's reinforcing legionnaire ..free healing..plenty of other logi's from back when pull high kdr's while performing fine logi work
wombat in combat lol they're are so many LOGI'S that will roll over your pathetic gun game its not even funny that you have the audacity to insult them all. and you wonder why no one cares to save you pathetic downed ass. get good scrub |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
376
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:31:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. um excuse me but before you go insulting my profession i would like to add the scrub addendum to your statement real logi scores look like this 15-30 kills depending on how good your slayers are in your squad or if your alone 2-4 k wp 1-5 deaths if you are not killing things your pathetic as a logi. being a logi takes no time there is plenty of time provide support fire for you squad...and if you res someone who was downed in mid to close combat that practically requires a kill to be successful...logi's who run negative kdr are being lazy plain and simple you can easily grab 2-3 k wp ina pub match with scrubs on your team..and if you alone and on the losing side...and your team is being crushed your wp and kills should look like this 3 k-7 k wp 12/11 kdr 11/11 something like that in coordinated pc a logi at the very least pulls a 1 kdr...with plenty of wp..negative kdr is a sign of a bad logi period..the entire point of logi in dust is so save clones ...losing a clone yourself for every person you save is is useless. clearly you have NEVER SEEN A VETERAN LOGI Prolly hasn't. He should meet Hally or Commander Marquess.
i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself
codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
376
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:34:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. um excuse me but before you go insulting my profession i would like to add the scrub addendum to your statement real logi scores look like this 15-30 kills depending on how good your slayers are in your squad or if your alone 2-4 k wp 1-5 deaths if you are not killing things your pathetic as a logi. being a logi takes no time there is plenty of time provide support fire for you squad...and if you res someone who was downed in mid to close combat that practically requires a kill to be successful...logi's who run negative kdr are being lazy plain and simple you can easily grab 2-3 k wp ina pub match with scrubs on your team..and if you alone and on the losing side...and your team is being crushed your wp and kills should look like this 3 k-7 k wp 12/11 kdr 11/11 something like that in coordinated pc a logi at the very least pulls a 1 kdr...with plenty of wp..negative kdr is a sign of a bad logi period..the entire point of logi in dust is so save clones ...losing a clone yourself for every person you save is is useless. clearly you have NEVER SEEN A VETERAN LOGI Prolly hasn't. He should meet Hally or Commander Marquess. i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team.
you may win the match but our kdrs and wp will trump your whole squads. and if we had a team ..u lose as well |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers
EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:35:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. no equipment for assaults plz ccp assaults will act more killer than support. see what I did here? you should by now have realized the stupidity in your request... and btw ask any engineer or medic in any army if they would like to give away their rifle for a pistol and see what they answer you.
assault dropsuit suck so why not everybody play logis instead they are way better compared to assault, |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2655
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:38:00 -
[70] - Quote
Mortedeamor wrote:
i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself
codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team.
you may win the match but our kdrs and wp will trump your whole squads. and if we had a team ..u lose as well[/quote]
They bother use Plasma Cannons as their primary weapons on average getting KDR's of 7+...... no body tops that
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Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
381
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:39:00 -
[71] - Quote
Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer.
sounds counter productive op is crying about logi's that do nothing but logi |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
381
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:41:00 -
[72] - Quote
True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself
codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team.
you may win the match but our kdrs and wp will trump your whole squads. and if we had a team ..u lose as well
They bother use Plasma Cannons as their primary weapons on average getting KDR's of 7+...... no body tops that
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lol plasma cannon funny funny..i have still never been killed by one the only people i see running around with them are speed glitched or are melee glitching to get their kills |
True Adamance
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2655
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:43:00 -
[73] - Quote
Mortedeamor wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself
codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team.
you may win the match but our kdrs and wp will trump your whole squads. and if we had a team ..u lose as well They bother use Plasma Cannons as their primary weapons on average getting KDR's of 7+...... no body tops that
lol plasma cannon funny funny..i have still never been killed by one the only people i see running around with them are speed glitched or are melee glitching to get their kills[/quote]
They are what they are. The God Plasma never stops falling! |
Faquira Bleuetta
TeamPlayers
EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:54:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. sounds counter productive op is crying about logi's that do nothing but logi
im a logis gallente i need six proto nano triage to maintain my ratio of 6kd can u have 6 triage proto in assault nope heck i have wasted million sp to proto gallentt assault suit sure a logisbro following me like a dog repair my armor may be useful but dedicated logis bro is rare. |
Hunter Junko
Zanzibar Concept
183
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:54:00 -
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i will tell you my Logi fitting:
1x Sver Logistics suit
1x Scrambler rifle/ pistol (Depending on my equipment)
2x armor repair tool (one enhanced, one complex)
1x shield extender
1 basic damage mod (depending on weapon of choice
Equipment By priority
Nanite injector (Pick up sticks)
Basic Repair tool (Bread and butter)
and Adv nanohives
yes i use my Logi suit as a Combat Medic. which means im the Doc:
i see a person who died with red dots all over, i dont revive because then i die and that results in loss of ISK and time spent doing something else. I literally choose who lives and who dies.
i see someone limping along with a sliver of health left, i pull out my rep tool and start healing. everything else is second on my list. a full health assault is better than a half dead soldier. Heavies get a little extra love from me because they can hold their own better with a logi sticking around.
if my services arent needed, then i toss down a nanohive in a secure spot, i let my squad know i dropped the bread and butter, pull out my gun and start pew-pewing. ( a squad i was in got stuck defending B in This map, and we spent a good five minutes defending B with only two nanohives until the Reds stopped coming. Imagine the frustration if not having nanohives at that moment and look at the map carefully; do you see any supply depots around B?) )
all in all Logis are your mobile supply depot, spawn beacon,healer, and savior rolled into one. let assault logis be assault logis, and as such, let logis be medics. I for one am a medic, and always will be.
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Dust Junky 4Life
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
26
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:40:00 -
[76] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Your a dumazz!! Withhout me you would be walkiing your fat azz from cru. Im sick of you fkers puting 10 second liinks bby my 3/5 second llinks. Stop being a bunch of whinniing btches n play the game. Waaaaaaaaa fking nooobs |
John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
167
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Posted - 2013.10.07 12:19:00 -
[77] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Damnit, somebody let that one out of it's cage again. OK, WHO'S BEEN FEEDING THE TROLLS? THIS %#+$@!?! SIGN ISN'T JUST FOR DECORATION YOU KNOW!
*grumbles*
Anyone see where I put my whip and cattle prod?
Never mind, I found it... |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
384
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Posted - 2013.10.07 12:32:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. no equipment for assaults plz ccp assaults will act more killer than support. see what I did here? you should by now have realized the stupidity in your request... and btw ask any engineer or medic in any army if they would like to give away their rifle for a pistol and see what they answer you.
sounds fair heavies dont have equips |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5679
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:00:00 -
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Faquira Bleuetta wrote:Jack McReady wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. no equipment for assaults plz ccp assaults will act more killer than support. see what I did here? you should by now have realized the stupidity in your request... and btw ask any engineer or medic in any army if they would like to give away their rifle for a pistol and see what they answer you. assault dropsuit suck so why not everybody play logis instead they are way better compared to assault,
Would you care to prove that? With facts instead of talking about trees, flowers and feelings? No excuse, just a simple challenge. Use this to create this super logi assault fitting everyone keeps BSing about and pair it up with the best fitted racial assault counterpart. If you can come up with a fitting that has a glaring advantage, I'll personally campaign to have all logis nerfed to sidearms. No excuses, here's you time to shine. |
Roofer Madness
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
278
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:06:00 -
[80] - Quote
Zeylon Rho wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait...
I can't be bothered to read this whole thread but this is soooooo WRONG my troll radar was dinging like a madman. At least it is for Gallente. My Medic starter fit is an assault with a needle.... lol |
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Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
2672
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:06:00 -
[81] - Quote
Jack McReady wrote:Faquira Bleuetta wrote:only sidearm for logis plz ccp logis will act more support than killer. no equipment for assaults plz ccp assaults will act more killer than support. see what I did here? you should by now have realized the stupidity in your request... and btw ask any engineer or medic in any army if they would like to give away their rifle for a pistol and see what they answer you.
I actually think that'd be an interesting change for assaults. No equipment on assaults, but keep Medium basic frames with 1 equipment slot and make assault bonuses better. |
Sana Rayya
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
245
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:21:00 -
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What logi haters don't seem to understand is that it isn't the stats on the logi suit itself that makes them powerful - it's the equipment. If assaults bothered to skill into equipment to the same extent that logis do, or alternatively, if a squad of assaults coordinated their slot usage so each equipment type was covered - scanners, uplinks, nanohives, reppers, injectors, REs - then the logi role would be far less essential than it is today.
However, most assaults are of the mindset to specialize into killing and killing only, and therefore they think skilling into weapon proficiency is more useful to them than devoting points to equipment - despite the fact that one can upgrade all equipment types to advanced with the SP required to get a weapon to proficiency to level 5, and that having a selection of advanced equipment available to you is a far greater benefit in terms of WP than dealing a few percentage points of extra damage. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
515
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Posted - 2013.10.07 13:51:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic.
It has everything to do with the company that makes both games refering to what would normally be called medic/repair as logistics. So yes, like EVE. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5683
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:10:00 -
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I'll just leave this here as well. |
Gh0st C0de
Spirit Collective
68
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:21:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. If they're topping the charts with 2/10 it's because they're being useful you ungrateful A55HOLE! You think they just give you random warpoints for dropping uplinks in dodgy locations that no-one uses or for dropping a nanohive where it's useless to team-mates??! We logis are the one's that are propping up your precious KDR and your under-estimaded win ratio you selfish TVVAT!!
I wish I could like this post more than once. Hating on Logis for fulfilling their role purpose efficiently is beyond stupid.
Logistics, DS Pilots, hacker scouts... the list of excellent team contributors who may top the charts while going 6/12 goes on. As an assault it's your job to kill enemies so they can't hack, as a logi you put the assaults in position to do so, reload them and keep them fighting. Scouts do recon and hunt lone reds. Everyone hacks whenever able. It takes more than one type of unit to win an engagement. Different situations call for different squad compositions and varied fittings. I would assert that NO squad couldn't benefit from a good logi. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
84
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Posted - 2013.10.07 14:22:00 -
[86] - Quote
Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
This is a good point. I think the argument for logi=medic boils down to if you want to be a medic then the logi suit is clearly the best choice. I agree that hives and uplinks are just as important and integral to the success of the team but I still use medic equipment mostly. This is just my way of contributing to the team. I wouldn't say that I contribute more or less than someone running uplinks or hives. As long as the logi is using it's attributes to support the team in some way then I think you're using the suit as it was intended to be used. |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
60
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:04:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. um excuse me but before you go insulting my profession i would like to add the scrub addendum to your statement real logi scores look like this 15-30 kills depending on how good your slayers are in your squad or if your alone 2-4 k wp 1-5 deaths if you are not killing things your pathetic as a logi. being a logi takes no time there is plenty of time provide support fire for you squad...and if you res someone who was downed in mid to close combat that practically requires a kill to be successful...logi's who run negative kdr are being lazy plain and simple you can easily grab 2-3 k wp ina pub match with scrubs on your team..and if you alone and on the losing side...and your team is being crushed your wp and kills should look like this 3 k-7 k wp 12/11 kdr 11/11 something like that in coordinated pc a logi at the very least pulls a 1 kdr...with plenty of wp..negative kdr is a sign of a bad logi period..the entire point of logi in dust is so save clones ...losing a clone yourself for every person you save is is useless. clearly you have NEVER SEEN A VETERAN LOGI Prolly hasn't. He should meet Hally or Commander Marquess. i know of who you speak but they're are plenty of solid veteran logi's i only know a few really..other than myself codebreaker and i run our amarian logi together..and i promise you op you pick any one from your corp and we will kill your whole squad and roll over you while we heal our team.
Us vet Logi's are quite the WP Magnet. If you want something cool try mimmitar logi lvl 5 (+25% hacking speed), code breaker operation lvl 5 (another +25% hacking speed) and a proto codebreaker (+25% hacking speed again). You'll hack so fast that even people helping you hack won't get WP.
My logi when I'm trying my hardest: 45/7 and 5250 WP (while in squad of vets) |
NOAMIzzzzz
BIG BAD W0LVES
47
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:24:00 -
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logis should be a support role but no...it's the other way around useuallly |
Kane Fyea
DUST University
Ivy League
1719
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Posted - 2013.10.07 18:29:00 -
[89] - Quote
Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. If they're topping the charts with 2/10 it's because they're being useful you ungrateful A55HOLE! You think they just give you random warpoints for dropping uplinks in dodgy locations that no-one uses or for dropping a nanohive where it's useless to team-mates??! We logis are the one's that are propping up your precious KDR and your under-estimaded win ratio you selfish TVVAT!!
I've gotten over 1500 WP just from spamming uplinks. I worked very hard by throwing uplinks all over the place right? |
BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
86
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:31:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?''
Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so?
STILL....
The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic.
Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters.
We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one.
With 1 or 2 side arm slots.
2 equipment slots
speed and enough slots.
Say:
Caldari Medic Med Frame:
Shields: 200
Armor: 50
Stamina: 180
Speed: 7.2
Side arm slot : 2
Equipment Slot: 2
High slots : 5
Low Slots : 3
Shield recharge:6
Shield Depleted: 8
Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like.
A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor)
And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like=
GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives
GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines.
GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks
GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools
This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector.
Just a random idea...
no no no the logistics class is as it is because it is supposed to be highly versitile |
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
84
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Posted - 2013.10.07 19:53:00 -
[91] - Quote
Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Unless you use a heavy suit I don't know why you're complaining. You can either take advantage of ammo/spawns/repair/revives or you can use that equipment yourself and rake in the points. No one is stopping you.
It seems that logis get to the top of the boards when there are only a couple of them in the match while the rest are performing offensive roles. If there were 3-5 in a match then one person would not get all of the "team spawns/resupply" points, but because people just want to run around killing things, this is not typically the case.
Imagine if the ratio were switched and there were 4 logis following every assault character. They would have very little points to compete for and the assault character could just walk around mowing every enemy down without fear.
Criticizing the players who take advantage of this circumstance is pretty ridiculous. It's a different play style that requires much more situational awareness and multitasking abilities rather than reflexes and accuracy. Assault is point and shoot. Try running a scout suit with nova knives if you think running around in a medium suit with an AR is the true test of skill. |
Jammer Jalapeno
BIG BAD W0LVES
62
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Posted - 2013.10.07 20:17:00 -
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Athena Sentinel wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Hmmmm I guess you have never walked through an immortal passage before eh. |
Abron Garr
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.10.07 22:25:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship.
There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE.
I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic.
Both games share the same universe and lore. The fact that Dust mechanics differ so much from EVE's can be blamed squarely on CCP Shanghai's incompetency. |
TODDSTER024
Revive Repair Resupply
148
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Posted - 2013.10.26 08:27:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:TODDSTER024 wrote:In my three equipment slots i have:nanite injector, nanohive, repair tool.
I always have the needle, dont always have a repper... ... the repper is needed so they don't DIE!
Needle does 50% |
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