DUST Search - Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?''

Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so?

STILL....
The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic.
Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters.

We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one.
With 1 or 2 side arm slots.
2 equipment slots
speed and enough slots.

Say:
Caldari Medic Med Frame:
Shields: 200
Armor: 50
Stamina: 180
Speed: 7.2
Side arm slot : 2
Equipment Slot: 2
High slots : 5
Low Slots : 3
Shield recharge:6
Shield Depleted: 8

Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like.
A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor)
And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like=

GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives
GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines.
GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks
GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools

This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector.
Just a random idea...

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Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 316	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:00:00 - [1] - Quote Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2650	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:05:00 - [2] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait...
Athena Sentinel Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 117	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 - [3] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know.
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 316	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 - [4] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait... Exacto.
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 520	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:06:00 - [5] - Quote Zeylon Rho wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait... Wat?
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 316	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:08:00 - [6] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. That really doesn't answer my question... therefore irrelevant.
Azura Sakura Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 520	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:10:00 - [7] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. That same logi will win you the game. But I do hate uplink spam. No tatics involved, they should just let 1 uplink per equipment slot or whatever you call it.
Delanus Turgias Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 141	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:18:00 - [8] - Quote Azura Sakura wrote: Zeylon Rho wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Because the starter fit called "Medic" uses a logistics suit? Oh, wait... Wat? Before your time, newbro. Before your time.
Chances Ghost ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings 1159	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:23:00 - [9] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. i run logi and my equips are scanner/nano/RE with a SMG/MD/AR as the weapon i use to bait with. i top charts and usually have the most kills on my team in my sever logi. my kills come from the remotes more then anything else easily accounting for at least 75% of my kills. tell me again that i should be a "medic", what other suit could allow this playstyle, and that i have no skill.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 276	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:25:00 - [10] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. Good job at immediately resorting to personal attacks. You must be a mature grown up person, huh?

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 9231	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:27:00 - [11] - Quote I wouldn't call them medics. Battlefield Facilitators, they make combat happen!
Meeko Fent DUST University Ivy League 1073	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:28:00 - [12] - Quote I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics....
Dimmu Borgir II Bannana Boat Corp 149	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:29:00 - [13] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. If they're topping the charts with 2/10 it's because they're being useful you ungrateful A55HOLE! You think they just give you random warpoints for dropping uplinks in dodgy locations that no-one uses or for dropping a nanohive where it's useless to team-mates??! We logis are the one's that are propping up your precious KDR and your under-estimaded win ratio you selfish TVVAT!!
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 317	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:31:00 - [14] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics.... On a lot of threads I have seen Assault s complain that logistics are not "doing their role" and not reviving/repping.
Chances Ghost ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings 1159	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:33:00 - [15] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: I don't remember anybody saying anything about Logis being medics.... lurk moar seriously though the issue comes up ALOT. it was a more popular complaint during the reign of the calogi assault, but its still around and people bring it up when they get killed by logis that are doing something other then running around res/repping people
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 56	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:44:00 - [16] - Quote Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Yeah, I know. A lot of people who aren't logis thaink that we should always stay in the back and healing everyone and that we shouldn't run assualt stuff or anything. I actually read a thread once about how all logis should have toier Light Weapon Slot replaced with an armor repairer. Then there are those people who believe that logis are OP just because the have multiple equipment slots and that they have way to much CPU and think that we should have the same amount of CPU/PG as everyone else. But without that load of high CPU would we be able to even fit all that equipment? People who cry about getting killed by logis need to quit QQing, and pick up a gun and learn how to play this game. And don't even get me started on people saying mass drivers need nerfing. And FOTM players sicken me.
Abron Garr Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 611	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:52:00 - [17] - Quote Because Logistics cruisers are medics in EVE. They repair hull/shield and replenish capacitor. They can also "buff" the fleet with tracking links etc. Carriers are also logistics but they carry fighters and drones for damage too. Most just use their carriers to move their stuff around though.
Melchiah ARANeAE The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 128	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:53:00 - [18] - Quote Logis are a support class and medic comes under support. So a medic should be a logi, but not the other way around. Or you could put a repair tool on a scout because screw conventions.
SgtDoughnut Red Star Jr. EoN. 258	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:54:00 - [19] - Quote The logistics suit is the best suit for determining the front line, assaults can do it as well but nowhere near as efficiently. Placement of nano hives, uplinks and use of repair tools and injectors really do determine where the fighting takes place. You don't have to run as that setup as a logi, and many don't but people expect it due to the fact you have the ability. When running as a solo you really can't build your suit to adapt to your squad layout or your teams needs, but when your in a squad, 1 logi setup as support and one setup as offence can be quite deadly if they work together.
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 56	Posted - 2013.10.06 20:54:00 - [20] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. Hey umm. I gotta question, when you run out of ammo do you drive all the way to the nearest supply depot? When you die and don't have the Objective or a CRU do you hope that you can drive back in time before being redlined? When your about to die, do you hope that your armor will heal up before the enemies come? (Which it most certaintly wont without complex armor repairers) I am both a triage and assualt logi and it is by no means easy. (less HP, more responsibility, and oh yeah EVERYBODY TRIES TO KILL YOU FIRST! ) We have lots of responsibilieties, and our yellow colors are a big "hit me" tag. And yeah that makes logistics the hard mode of the game.

KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1602	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:16:00 - [21] - Quote ''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?'' Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so? STILL.... The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic. Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters. We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one. With 1 or 2 side arm slots. 2 equipment slots speed and enough slots. Say: Caldari Medic Med Frame: Shields: 200 Armor: 50 Stamina: 180 Speed: 7.2 Side arm slot : 2 Equipment Slot: 2 High slots : 5 Low Slots : 3 Shield recharge:6 Shield Depleted: 8 Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like. A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor) And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like= GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines. GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector. Just a random idea...
Broonfondle Majikthies Bannana Boat Corp 298	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:18:00 - [22] - Quote Do Assaults realise how fricking expensive it is to run a logi frame? The extra slots they all complaining about keep us on your level of survivability because we run an extra plate or extender - That doesn't appear out of thin air. That's straight out of out wallets. Then there's the equipment itself - Not only is it hard to fit all of it in on top of the mods but is often high end stuff that's expensive. And we have to pay more ISK for the equipment that's easier to fit in. Honestly, have you seen the fitting requirements for a Quantum Scanner? Ok a**hole Assaults, you hold it while I 'focus on my role as a medi' see how you like it -_-
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES 1136	Posted - 2013.10.06 21:27:00 - [23] - Quote Athena Sentinel wrote: Tectonic Fusion wrote: Just because they can carry multiple equipment, doesn't mean they are suppose to carry a nano injector or repair tool. Uplinks and nanohives are just as important. Plus the ONLY logistics suit that mentions a medic role is the Caldari Logi, and that's how I saw it even before I looked at the description. Logistics are the masters of equipment. If you want a medic, ask CCP to make another suit specifically for medic purposes. Logistics should get a bonus to nanohives, because in real life, logistics has to do with supplies, and in a sense, ammunition. Logi is easy mode. Spam dropping equipment is getting stupid. toping the charts with 2/10 because you ran around dropping equipment without engaging and using the supply depot bug/exploit, make Equipment logi the noob easy mode. Hope its working for you. When/if you have the skills to do something more useful please let us know. Of someone is topping the charts and foing 2/10 then they are a good logi as they probably put ammo out for everyone at the mainnengagement points they probably loose allot of suits keepingbother mercs in the fight by reppong and rezing and resupplying . Dont hate the logi...
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 59	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:07:00 - [24] - Quote I've been playing as a Logi lately, (wanted to help out the team) and I kind of like it. Most of the time, I drop a link near an objective, drop a hive for some people when they're having a shoot out, as well as scan enemies so I can kill any enemies that might try to help the enemy. Once I die, I usually just go back to my Assault and scan or put a link around. Supportive Assaults FTW. After I die two times, I start all over with my Logi fit(just a basic).
Seigfried Warheit Pradox XVI 43	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:09:00 - [25] - Quote All this logi hate is stupid....Im sorry I have a gun and I can kill things, Im sorry Im not a piece of equipment you can place somewhere and comeback to for ammo like a pez dispenser or press a button for reps Some logis do go for medic fit cause they are not good in fire fights and that is fine but not all logis run that fit and they shouldnt expect all logis to run that fit..I preferably like to have rep on my at all times cause I love giving logi love ..but not all do that. Some have remotes explosives to protect objectives,some have uplinks to drop so when a teamate dies they come back to the squad faster, some have a scanner so the squad is focused on shooting while the logi is spinning around in circles for you etc etc. I have a gun..Im gonna gun your arse down..wanna only gives us sidearms? Fine Ill still gun your arse down as long as I have a gun in my hands your gonna die. PS Need Logi Love? Come no further! This logi loves giving logi love ..just bash me in the face with the butt of your gun cause I cant see your hp anymore unless I aim at you..and Im not aiming at you Im aiming at those strawberries.
Chances Ghost ThisIsWhyWeCantHaveNiceThings 1161	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:12:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Why do people think logistics are suppose to be medics?'' Im just guessing here; maybe because they are the ones best fitted to do so? STILL.... The logi is WAY too good of a combat armor to be used only as medic. Their massive amount of HP and natural HP repair bonus makes them VERY fit for combat, specially in Close quarters. We need ANOTHER Med frame, or maybe a Light one. With 1 or 2 side arm slots. 2 equipment slots speed and enough slots. Say: Caldari Medic Med Frame: Shields: 200 Armor: 50 Stamina: 180 Speed: 7.2 Side arm slot : 2 Equipment Slot: 2 High slots : 5 Low Slots : 3 Shield recharge:6 Shield Depleted: 8 Make them with enough PG and CPU to fit whatever they like. A generic bonus that helps the armor's survivability like: +3% total shields and armor per level (meaning that each level gained makes the armor stronger until they reach 230 shields and 57 armor y default, this stacks without penalty with regular passive bonuses for a total of 280 shields and 70 armor) And specific bonuses that help different equipment's , like= GÖªCaldari: 10% resupply rate on nanohives GÖªMinmatar: -5% to cost of CPU/PG on Remote Explosives and Pox Mines. GÖªAmarr: -5% cost of CPU/PG on Drop Uplinks GÖªGallante: 10% Range bonus to Repair Tools This way every race has an incentive to use one of those equipment's on par to their nanite injector. Just a random idea... the old type 2/B logi filled this role and it was my prefered suit, unfortunatly they took it out of the game and so i got
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 813	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:14:00 - [27] - Quote We don't expect logi units to be medics, we just expect assaults to be better assaults. I personalky think we would be better off completely removing ASSAULT suits, and give racial bonuses at racial dropsuit command. We would then be free to add a new specialisation to medium suits, like a grenadier or something else. Assault suits should be the racial standard suits!
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 513	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:18:00 - [28] - Quote They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship. There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE. I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go.
skippy678 F.T.U. 96	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:21:00 - [29] - Quote your slow man...you gonna be a medic with 1 equiptment slot? your not very bright , maybe you should go back to posting about getting pubstomped or keep on shooting at the MCC
Tectonic Fusion The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 320	Posted - 2013.10.06 22:21:00 - [30] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: They are meant tocarry the medic repair supplies and because in EVE that is exactly what a logi ship is GÇö a repper(medic) ship. There are no droplinks and nanohives to throw down in EVE. I personally wondered why they wanted to refer to a repair ship as logistics but there you go. Dust is not eve. Amarr are not armor tankers like in eve. And the definition of logistics has nothing to do with a medic.



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