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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:07:00 -
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wow, plugged in a mouse and you turn at the very least 2x faster than a controller. It is absolutely ridiculous how incredibly fast you can maneuver with a mouse now. I honestly cannot understand how in the world anyone can complain about aim assists when you have what feels like raw input from the mouse now.
What is so hard a capping mouse turn rate at controller turn rate? Why can't CCP just cap directional changes to what the DS is capable of? |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1617
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:11:00 -
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Obvious troll post. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
3680
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:12:00 -
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Posting in another KBM whine/troll thread. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:12:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Obvious troll post.
Yes that is what you just did.
You are one of the ones who complain about aim assist right? I assume you use the mouse. Oh my good god the difference is insane. seriously feels like using a mouse in a FPS on the computer now.
*make sure you turn mouse smoothing off* |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1617
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:14:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Obvious troll post. Yes that is what you just did. You are one of the ones who complain about aim assist right? I assume you use the mouse. Oh my good god the difference is insane. seriously feels like using a mouse in a FPS on the computer now. *make sure you turn mouse smoothing off* Yes I am one who does complain about AA. And no I use the ds3.
I mainly complain about AA because I'm a scout and speed tanking is dead because of it. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
62
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:17:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Obvious troll post. Yes that is what you just did. You are one of the ones who complain about aim assist right? I assume you use the mouse. Oh my good god the difference is insane. seriously feels like using a mouse in a FPS on the computer now. *make sure you turn mouse smoothing off* Yes I am one who does complain about AA. And no I use the ds3. I mainly complain about AA because I'm a scout and speed tanking is dead because of it.
Plug in a mouse for just a minute. Trust me it is not aim assist that is causing you to die as much. With this *basically* raw input i could see it being extremely easy to track you. I can turn 180 degrees in less than .5 secs.
Going to test with a heavy now and see if it is the same.
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DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1617
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:18:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Obvious troll post. Yes that is what you just did. You are one of the ones who complain about aim assist right? I assume you use the mouse. Oh my good god the difference is insane. seriously feels like using a mouse in a FPS on the computer now. *make sure you turn mouse smoothing off* Yes I am one who does complain about AA. And no I use the ds3. I mainly complain about AA because I'm a scout and speed tanking is dead because of it. Plug in a mouse for just a minute. Trust me it is not aim assist that is causing you to die as much. With this *basically* raw input i could see it being extremely easy to track you. I can turn 180 degrees in less than .5 secs. Going to test with a heavy now and see if it is the same. No it is the AA. Unless so somehow 100% of the newbies are kbm now, it is the AA |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:22:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote: No it is the AA. Unless somehow 100% of the newbies are kbm now, it is the AA
So I guess that means you will not even try it out, and thus are just trying to derail the topic.
yep.... heavy can turn around 180 in literally the blink of an eye using mouse. |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition Freek Alliance
73
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:27:00 -
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I think they both have their fair share advantages other the other. Displaying who is using which on the killfeed was a good idea from someone. Also a way to divide them so you get full DS3 players or full KB/M players? |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1598
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:32:00 -
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It is super fast, stupidly fast... the acceleration is out of control. You either turn 360 degrees twice in a flash, or have to set the sensitivity so low that you need a 25 meters long table.
Listen.... you go a head and try to use the mouse at max sensitivity ... good luck. I sticking to the AA to CCP fixes the mouse. |
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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
1020
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:34:00 -
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For scouts facing kb/m it's the hit detection and reduced lag(leave PC out of this for the moment please, separate issue).
For scouts facing DS3 it's the hit detection, improved DS3 aiming(without AA), AA, and reduced lag.
I would say the largest factor in the scout-hammering is the hit detection, followed closely by the AA. Maybe i'm not giving the lag tweaks enough credit, because scouts are now exactly where i see them - the need to lead or trail shots is gone. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
585
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:35:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Obvious troll post. Yes that is what you just did. You are one of the ones who complain about aim assist right? I assume you use the mouse. Oh my good god the difference is insane. seriously feels like using a mouse in a FPS on the computer now. *make sure you turn mouse smoothing off* Yes I am one who does complain about AA. And no I use the ds3. I mainly complain about AA because I'm a scout and speed tanking is dead because of it. Plug in a mouse for just a minute. Trust me it is not aim assist that is causing you to die as much. With this *basically* raw input i could see it being extremely easy to track you. I can turn 180 degrees in less than .5 secs. Going to test with a heavy now and see if it is the same.
Then use it and stfu, that's right you won't because CCP has completely destroyed the mouse sure it turns fast but the tracking and accuracy is complete ****... So go back to your DS3 with aim assist that you're obviously trying to defend..
Yep I'm a kb/m user have been for years and its horrible in Dust if I use an AR or LR you can bet I'm using a DS3, why not let the game track my target for me that's obviously the way CCP is tryimg to hold on to its scrub player base.. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:38:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote: Plug in a mouse for just a minute. Trust me it is not aim assist that is causing you to die as much. With this *basically* raw input i could see it being extremely easy to track you. I can turn 180 degrees in less than .5 secs.
Going to test with a heavy now and see if it is the same.
Then use it and stfu, that's right you won't because CCP has completely destroyed the mouse sure it turns fast but the tracking and accuracy is complete ****... So go back to your DS3 with aim assist that you're obviously trying to defend..
Yep I'm a kb/m user have been for years and its horrible in Dust if I use an AR or LR you can bet I'm using a DS3, why not let the game track my target for me that's obviously the way CCP is tryimg to hold on to its scrub player base.. [/quote]
Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. |
Aaroniero d'Lioncourt
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
162
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:39:00 -
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You know what else that turns insanely faster than controller??
Pushed back |
Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
128
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:39:00 -
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What did you expect when you plugged the mouse in? For it to not function as it should? |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:42:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:What did you expect when you plugged the mouse in? For it to not function as it should?
Well I have been reading how the mouse and keyboard were garbage, and how AA made the controller better and all that stuff. So I assumed when I plugged one in it was going to suck and I would use the controller more, why wouldn't I, AA basically plays the game for me right?
Wow, I was suprised. Like I said an adjustment period is in order of course, but I am definately going to give it a shot. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1598
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:43:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man.
Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****.
I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:47:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason...
So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers?
Think about that for a second.
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1598
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:53:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers? Think about that for a second.
You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist". |
low genius
the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance
623
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:56:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:wow, plugged in a mouse and you turn at the very least 2x faster than a controller. It is absolutely ridiculous how incredibly fast you can maneuver with a mouse now. I honestly cannot understand how in the world anyone can complain about aim assists when you have what feels like raw input from the mouse now.
What is so hard a capping mouse turn rate at controller turn rate? Why can't CCP just cap directional changes to what the DS is capable of?
concrats. I wonder why everyone isn't using them. they seem to be so game-breaking yet underused... |
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Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 22:59:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers? Think about that for a second. You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist".
Oh no, internet tough guy here....
Anyway, take it for what it is. There is absolutely no doubt that the KB/M is a more accurate control method, so CCP HAS to do something in order to level the playing field for this game that is CONSOLE exclusive. HTFU man. I don't see people going in to COD on PC yelling about how the controller is not catered to. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1623
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:01:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers? Think about that for a second. You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist". You were right the first time, aimbot |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
63
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:03:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers? Think about that for a second. You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist". You were right the first time, aimbot
Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists.....
Do you see the contradiction?
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Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1600
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:07:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:Hey I am a converted man. I am going to start using the mouse and keyboard now as it is WAY better. Sure I will have to train my muscle memory so an adjustment period will be there, but whatever.
HTFU man. Sure, go a head .... try to train you muscle memory with the Piece of crap we have right now. I just hope you don't planing to play any other PC FPS games, or you totally ****. I actually refuse to use the mouse right now, precisely for that reason... So your upset that this console game, on a console, does not control like PC FPSers? Think about that for a second. You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist". Oh no, internet tough guy here.... Anyway, take it for what it is. There is absolutely no doubt that the KB/M is a more accurate control method, so CCP HAS to do something in order to level the playing field for this game that is CONSOLE exclusive. HTFU man. I don't see people going in to COD on PC yelling about how the controller is not catered to.
A console game that supports a MOUSE ....you have any idea how huge that could been ? But... noooo.... lets just make Dust 514 another ordinary Console game... Who wants an "Unique" game, huh ? they are rubbish. |
DJINN Marauder
Ancient Exiles
1625
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:09:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists.....
Do you see the contradiction?
What contradiction? You mean I want players to actually be SKILLFUL at aiming in an FPS? My bad bro. I should've known that's a bad idea. |
Jeanne D'Arc III
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:14:00 -
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DJINN Marauder wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists.....
Do you see the contradiction?
What contradiction? You mean I want players to actually be SKILLFUL at aiming in an FPS? My bad bro. I should've known that's a bad idea. Scrub, use DS3 to compare your skill |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1600
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:18:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist".
You were right the first time, aimbot Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists..... Do you see the contradiction?
Not really.... last time i check the mouse don't have aimbots, you still have to be good at aiming. Using a mouse doesn't makes you a FPS god instantly... in fact... is plenty of rubbish mouse users around, i bet you anything you are one of them.. |
Jeanne D'Arc III
Kinsho Swords Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:20:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist".
You were right the first time, aimbot Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists..... Do you see the contradiction? Not really.... last time i check the mouse don't have aimbots, you still have to be good at aiming. Using a mouse doesn't makes you a FPS god instantly... in fact... is plenty of rubbish mouse users around, i bet you anything you are one of them.. Strafing noob |
pseudosnipre
DUST University Ivy League
265
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:20:00 -
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Crimson Cerberes wrote:
Plug in a mouse for just a minute. Trust me it is not aim assist that is causing you to die as much. With this *basically* raw input i could see it being extremely easy to track you.
Your afternoon experiment is not a very significant statistical sample on which to draw any conclusions...
Marauder is referring to AA = EVERY shot hits. Go play for a month with kbm and then come say AA is to blame.
ds3 guys with aa off have my respect, but anyone with AA turned on needs a unique chevron so I can go out of my way to pick them off. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1601
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Posted - 2013.10.04 23:23:00 -
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Jeanne D'Arc III wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:Crimson Cerberes wrote:DJINN Marauder wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:
You have to be the biggest troll in this forums ... I'm upset because CCP promised mouse support for Dust 514, not an Analog Stick Emulator piece of crap. But not worries... i still kick your ass with the DS3 aimbot...i mean... "aim-assist".
You were right the first time, aimbot Hey you hate aim assist. The reason why we even have it is because mouse and keyboard..... Yet you defend mouse and keyboard, but you use a controller....... yet you complain about aim assists..... Do you see the contradiction? Not really.... last time i check the mouse don't have aimbots, you still have to be good at aiming. Using a mouse doesn't makes you a FPS god instantly... in fact... is plenty of rubbish mouse users around, i bet you anything you are one of them.. Strafing noob
Strafing ? sure.... strafing is the secret... you hear that CCP ? we don't need to aim, just strafe .... |
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