DUST Search - So I tried Farframe and PS2

meri jin wrote:

And I must say it's nothing that I would like to play even on a PS4.

I have read the name here in the forums that a lot of people are comparing PS2 and Warframe to Dust 514 and I must say that both feels (for me) way to arcade. The PVP in PS2 ist horrible, I don't like it. The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. PS2 is deinstalled and warframe will follow after this posting. Playing this two showed me how well Dust514 mechanic suits me and how well it is done. I hope CCP will throw some content soon on us. (and pve)

Speaking of PVE,
I think CCP will find their own way for PVE and I hope that PVE will be there very soon, as I'm getting bored by farming SP and ISK the whole time. Because this is what dust feels like at the moment. Farming is nothing bad if it's done right tbh.

Dear CCP, this is not a chorus of praises, you still have to deliver! In November I'm getting my PS4 and Battlefield, do something surprisingly well, and I will come back, but don't forget, early 2014 will Destiny lunch the beta for people who have it in pre-order... Hurry the duck up!

TL;TR: Dust feels still better.

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meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 516	Posted - 2013.10.03 13:55:00 - [1] - Quote And I must say it's nothing that I would like to play even on a PS4. I have read the name here in the forums that a lot of people are comparing PS2 and Warframe to Dust 514 and I must say that both feels (for me) way to arcade. The PVP in PS2 ist horrible, I don't like it. The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. PS2 is deinstalled and warframe will follow after this posting. Playing this two showed me how well Dust514 mechanic suits me and how well it is done. I hope CCP will throw some content soon on us. (and pve) Speaking of PVE, I think CCP will find their own way for PVE and I hope that PVE will be there very soon, as I'm getting bored by farming SP and ISK the whole time. Because this is what dust feels like at the moment. Farming is nothing bad if it's done right tbh. Dear CCP, this is not a chorus of praises, you still have to deliver! In November I'm getting my PS4 and Battlefield, do something surprisingly well, and I will come back, but don't forget, early 2014 will Destiny lunch the beta for people who have it in pre-order... Hurry the duck up! TL;TR: Dust feels still better.
Fist Groinpunch Goonfeet Top Men. 104	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:41:00 - [2] - Quote I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game.
DS 10 Will Ring For Booze 1017	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:43:00 - [3] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. Try sorting your search by views or rating. Not defending PS2, but that's how you'll find the better content.
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 611	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:45:00 - [4] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. in dust you anyway dont see anything far away, no need to hide behind a rock trololo rendering
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 1279	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:47:00 - [5] - Quote Warframe is a PVE game at best PS2 is meh on PC but if its optomized for PS4 and runs smooth with minimal loading then it could be a good MAG replacement
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1112	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:48:00 - [6] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. Hey now, it may not be everyone 's cup of tea but those distant (and more realistic) engagements are far from boring. Arma dudes. Remember ARMA. Those battles when you cleared the enemy out was worth every bit of a relief sigh at a pat to ones back.
Chad Michael Murray The Phoenix Federation 31	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:49:00 - [7] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. If you look a bit harder there's more impressive videos out there for PS2. Don't get me wrong I think the game looks **** but still... not hard to be more impressive than your description. I'll probably give it a try, anyway, whenever I pick up a ps4 since it's f2p though.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 1171	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:51:00 - [8] - Quote I believe we have some rendering fixes coming in 1.5. Probably wonGÇÖt solve all the problems, but these small fixes over time have a cumulative effect. I certainly noticed the rendering fixes they had in 1.4. ____________________________________________________________________________ Immortal Guides, supporting knowledge dissemination in New Eden since August 31, 2013.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1379	Posted - 2013.10.03 15:53:00 - [9] - Quote http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvXlHyApxY a better video. honestly though, it's a matter of taste. i cringe to say this because it's troll bait, but I prefer the 'grittier' dust look than the bright cartoony manikin-movement PS2. more features, but I think PS2 "is what it is" whereas with Dust, there is a lot more undefined potential for entirely new features in the future. i mean, in Dust I can dream about one day boarding an Avatar or taking part on an assault inside a space station that means something in the Sov warfare that effects tens of thousands of players and inspires online news articles... we're not there now, but that's the pipe dream. PS2? Fight for map hexagons... forever.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 348	Posted - 2013.10.03 18:50:00 - [10] - Quote meri jin wrote: And I must say it's nothing that I would like to play even on a PS4. I have read the name here in the forums that a lot of people are comparing PS2 and Warframe to Dust 514 and I must say that both feels (for me) way to arcade. The PVP in PS2 ist horrible, I don't like it. The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. PS2 is deinstalled and warframe will follow after this posting. Playing this two showed me how well Dust514 mechanic suits me and how well it is done. I hope CCP will throw some content soon on us. (and pve) Speaking of PVE, I think CCP will find their own way for PVE and I hope that PVE will be there very soon, as I'm getting bored by farming SP and ISK the whole time. Because this is what dust feels like at the moment. Farming is nothing bad if it's done right tbh. Dear CCP, this is not a chorus of praises, you still have to deliver! In November I'm getting my PS4 and Battlefield, do something surprisingly well, and I will come back, but don't forget, early 2014 will Destiny lunch the beta for people who have it in pre-order... Hurry the duck up! TL;TR: Dust feels still better. LOL who ever said Warframe was AT ALL like dust? You must be mad! Warframe is a PVE game. Totally PVE (Almost) Nothing like Dust. And that's what I love about it! Its enjoyable, its very well polished. Ok a bit grindy at times but so is dust. The Warframe devs have regular video blogs where they all sit around discussing what they are doing, showing concept art, Question and Answer times etc... I can only wish the devs of this game did anything similar.

True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2564	Posted - 2013.10.03 18:56:00 - [11] - Quote DS 10 wrote: Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. Try sorting your search by views or rating. Not defending PS2, but that's how you'll find the better content. Admittedly I have watched a heck of a lot of PS2 content, I always did like the Buzzcut Psycho vids. But I have had some incredibly intense gun battles in Dust with 16+ people (8v8 or so in one place) which have made for some great moments.... I also wont deny I want more people in battles.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 518	Posted - 2013.10.03 18:59:00 - [12] - Quote Rogatien Merc wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gvXlHyApxY a better video. honestly though, it's a matter of taste. i cringe to say this because it's troll bait, but I prefer the 'grittier' dust look than the bright cartoony manikin-movement PS2. more features, but I think PS2 "is what it is" whereas with Dust, there is a lot more undefined potential for entirely new features in the future. i mean, in Dust I can dream about one day boarding an Avatar or taking part on an assault inside a space station that means something in the Sov warfare that effects tens of thousands of players and inspires online news articles... we're not there now, but that's the pipe dream. PS2? Fight for map hexagons... forever. I can only hope that the potential is going to be used someday.
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 6370	Posted - 2013.10.03 18:59:00 - [13] - Quote meri jin wrote: The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. That read like "I HATE FUN THINGS!"
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 348	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:01:00 - [14] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: meri jin wrote: The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. That read like "I HATE FUN THINGS!" Exactly right! I'm not going to say Warframe is what people playing Dust here are looking for because they are totally different types of games. However Warframe is fun , its fresh! Its very different to a lot of games out there.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2565	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:02:00 - [15] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: meri jin wrote: The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. That read like "I HATE FUN THINGS!" How so. I hate arcade style games as well unless they are tastefully done.
meri jin Goonfeet Top Men. 518	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:04:00 - [16] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: meri jin wrote: The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. That read like "I HATE FUN THINGS!" Yeah, I guess you can read it like this . For Dust I was hoping to have a more quality encounter rather then quantity. In Warframe you are massacring a lot of stuff. In Dust I'm hoping for a more strategist play. Sanshas and the drones are way more powerful then the regular human. Sanshas are more or less cyborgs and drones, well they are newest technology KI.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2566	Posted - 2013.10.03 19:12:00 - [17] - Quote meri jin wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: meri jin wrote: The PVE in Warframe is way to arcade, jumping, sliding, sword action and run and gun. Nothing I will continue to play. That read like "I HATE FUN THINGS!" Yeah, I guess you can read it like this . For Dust I was hoping to have a more quality encounter rather then quantity. In Warframe you are massacring a lot of stuff. In Dust I'm hoping for a more strategist play. Sanshas and the drones are way more powerful then the regular human. Sanshas are more or less cyborgs and drones, well they are newest technology KI. I do want to hunt some Sani Sabik heretics .... I imagine this going down like Space Hulk were we have PIE Inc fully amarrian squads rolling through Sansha's ships.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1340	Posted - 2013.10.03 23:57:00 - [18] - Quote PS2 just looks "messy", ya know? Like someone took a graphical poop on your screen, crap is everywhere. I don't know about WarFrame, I heard good and bad. The impression I get is that it's COD in space with ninjas. Somewhat like the step child of TitanFall.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4005	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:11:00 - [19] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: PS2 just looks "messy", ya know? Like someone took a graphical poop on your screen, crap is everywhere. I don't know about WarFrame, I heard good and bad. The impression I get is that it's COD in space with ninjas. Somewhat like the step child of TitanFall. PS2 looks bad to you? Curious to know what you think DUST looks like....
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1343	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:23:00 - [20] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Michael Arck wrote: PS2 just looks "messy", ya know? Like someone took a graphical poop on your screen, crap is everywhere. I don't know about WarFrame, I heard good and bad. The impression I get is that it's COD in space with ninjas. Somewhat like the step child of TitanFall. PS2 looks bad to you? Curious to know what you think DUST looks like.... Yes, you read it right. Dust doesn't look that bad to me. Games look nice on the Unreal engine.

Ryder Azorria Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 626	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:30:00 - [21] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Michael Arck wrote: PS2 just looks "messy", ya know? Like someone took a graphical poop on your screen, crap is everywhere. I don't know about WarFrame, I heard good and bad. The impression I get is that it's COD in space with ninjas. Somewhat like the step child of TitanFall. PS2 looks bad to you? Curious to know what you think DUST looks like.... PS2 looks almost 'arcadey', Dust has a much more gritty feel to it. It's all a matter of taste ofc, but I prefer Dust's more realistic style to PS2's 'all of the colours' style. Plus, going by the gameplay trailers, Dust looks like it's more detailed, with higher poly models etc. (granted, there is a very good reason for that - ie. PS2 usually has more stuff on screen at any given time)
Baal Roo Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2647	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:32:00 - [22] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Warframe is a PVE game at best PS2 is meh on PC but if its optomized for PS4 and runs smooth with minimal loading then it could be a good MAG replacement Why would putting the game on a less powerful system improve it?
dazlb72 HELGHAN EXILES 72	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:36:00 - [23] - Quote Fist Groinpunch wrote: I watched a YouTube of a PS2 match titled HUGE PS2 BATTLE! or something like that, and it was a guy behind a rock peeking out and shooting a grenade out of his grenade launcher in the general direction of the bad guys, then hiding before even seeing where it lands. Over and over and over again. And the bad guys were so far away that you could barely see them. If that's what an impressive, YouTube-worthy PS2 battle is, I want no part of that game. you mean like mass driver users in this game?
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4005	Posted - 2013.10.04 00:38:00 - [24] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Michael Arck wrote: PS2 just looks "messy", ya know? Like someone took a graphical poop on your screen, crap is everywhere. I don't know about WarFrame, I heard good and bad. The impression I get is that it's COD in space with ninjas. Somewhat like the step child of TitanFall. PS2 looks bad to you? Curious to know what you think DUST looks like.... Yes, you read it right. Dust doesn't look that bad to me. Games look nice on the Unreal engine. I guess it's personal preference, but DUST looks like crap to me. Both games aren't the best looking, but I won't say DUST is the winner...imo.
Alpha 443-6732 PEN 15 CLUB 88	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:23:00 - [25] - Quote This thread reeks of delusional fanboyism.
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1347	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:24:00 - [26] - Quote Delusional? You're delusional. It's called individualism. You should read up on it.
Alpha 443-6732 PEN 15 CLUB 88	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:30:00 - [27] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: Delusional? You're delusional. It's called individualism. You should read up on it. People are entitled to their opinions, but the quality of a game is objective, not subjective. Dust has horrible quality as a AAA game as it stands, in almost every direction. Yet I constantly see people implying that this game is somehow better (damage control, why else?) than its rival titles when, as it stands, it clearly isn't. Not saying Dust isn't fun every now and then, but it currently is an over-glorified lobby shooter with broken gameplay and customization mechanics.
The legend345 TeamPlayers EoN. 1118	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:49:00 - [28] - Quote Baal Roo wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Warframe is a PVE game at best PS2 is meh on PC but if its optomized for PS4 and runs smooth with minimal loading then it could be a good MAG replacement Why would putting the game on a less powerful system improve it? Not all pcs are powerful to run max settings for Planetside 2 thus not all pcs are more powerful then the ps4. The ones that are a over a grand. The ps4 will run Planetside 2 at max settings and not be well over a grand LOL.
Rogatien Merc Red Star. EoN. 1382	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:54:00 - [29] - Quote Alpha 443-6732 wrote: Michael Arck wrote: Delusional? You're delusional. It's called individualism. You should read up on it. People are entitled to their opinions, but the quality of a game is objective, not subjective. Dust has horrible quality as a AAA game as it stands, in almost every direction. Yet I constantly see people implying that this game is somehow better (damage control, why else?) than its rival titles when, as it stands, it clearly isn't. Not saying Dust isn't fun every now and then, but it currently is an over-glorified lobby shooter with broken gameplay and customization mechanics. ever read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance"? Ahh... Quality. i think my post was the closest to fanboyism in this thread, and I specifically mentioned that it isn't "there yet" and that the thing that is a draw for me to this game is the potential which I admit is a 'pipe dream'. that said, I think CCP is the only company ballsy / insane enough to keep trudging along and realize the pipe dream for such a niche game. this game will never rival CoD, BF, or WoW as far as player count, but I am ok with that. it'll never rival BF for realism or CoD for QA/QC budget. the draw is new eden. it is a niche. the hope is persistent sci fi shooter integrally connected to spaceships. we'll see if we get there: but it's still free to play so... w/e... we play because we enjoy it, because Pavlov made us, and because we are bored with other things. I for one stopped playing The Last of Us halfway through and MAYBE I'll finish it in the next year. Dust I'll log into every day. To each his own.
Alpha 443-6732 PEN 15 CLUB 88	Posted - 2013.10.04 01:56:00 - [30] - Quote The legend345 wrote: Baal Roo wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Warframe is a PVE game at best PS2 is meh on PC but if its optomized for PS4 and runs smooth with minimal loading then it could be a good MAG replacement Why would putting the game on a less powerful system improve it? Not all pcs are powerful to run max settings for Planetside 2 thus not all pcs are more powerful then the ps4. The ones that are a over a grand. The ps4 will run Planetside 2 at max settings and not be well over a grand LOL. Plus all console games are made exactly to the specs of the console, unlike PCs. Console games can be made efficient with worse hardware, because the developer designs the game entirely with the console specs in mind.



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