Do any other nations do stuff like that?

Do any other nations do stuff like that?

No, only a nation with a functioning democratic based republic that has checks and balances.

Here's to hoping they get this BS ironed out before Fan Fest 2014 for those of us who do not yet have our passports.

(Note: Government Shutdown = no new passports issued)

Nah, apparently they just take the money out of private accounts.

I would much rather the government stays shut down than get my passport renewed. I love to travel but... I love the government shut down way more.

Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government

Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown

Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada

Resource based economy, just like Iceland.

Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.

Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.

Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government

Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown

Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada

Resource based economy, just like Iceland.

Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.

Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.

Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time?

Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time?

Their accents MY GOD... I want one

Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos

Although much of the federal workforce will go without pay, checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress.

Why? The 27th Amendment prevents any Congress from changing its own pay.

"That is disgraceful in my view," said freshman Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii. "Basically the only people who get paid in a shutdown are members of Congress, and that is irresponsible."

The combat veteran said she plans to send any pay she receives during the shutdown back to the Treasury.

Rep. John Fleming, R-Louisiana, said he hadn't thought through what he would do with his paychecks, but said he would likely donate his pay during a shutdown to charity.

"Obviously we need to share the pain of the American people," he said.

The president too will get paid. His salary -- $400,000 -- is considered mandatory spending.

On Monday, Attorney General Eric Holder said he would take a pay cut equal to the Justice Department employees most severely impacted by a shutdown.

Source:
http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/01/politics/government-shutdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1



Disgusting, really. Our people are suffering but these guys get away with their own pay and probably still keep their lifetime pensions. These members of Congress, all of them, should be put to jail for life.

Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government

Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown

Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada

Resource based economy, just like Iceland.

Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.

Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.

Waitaminute. You're going to move to a true socialist country because you can't stand the U.S. government telling you that you need to get health insurance?

What is this I don't even...

Waitaminute. You're going to move to a true socialist country because you can't stand the U.S. government telling you that you need to get health insurance?

What is this I don't even...

As a nihilist: it won't matter 6 weeks from now.
As an investor: this doesn't do anything to promote the growth the capitalistic economy barley eeked out over the past half decade.
As an angry American: you're coming down us!

The us econ is a reserve currency if that becomes uncreable well it's never happend but it will make the great depression look like a picnic. I personally want a state to sucuessed from the union over this mess. Won't happen but my god if it did think of the fireworks :-D

Albany, NY practically declared war against the United States if they tried to enforce the NDAA in the city. I thought that was amusing.

There's a township near Boulder CO that has a standing bounty on drones. Also amusing.

There's a township near Boulder CO that has a standing bounty on drones. Also amusing.

Oo how does your country function?!? Also ndaa??

Oo how does your country function?!? Also ndaa??

reasons

Sweet Jesus even the UK is not that bad and where pretty bad >.<

There's a township near Boulder CO that has a standing bounty on drones. Also amusing.

has even inspired some live events in Dust 514

The us econ is a reserve currency if that becomes uncreable well it's never happend but it will make the great depression look like a picnic. I personally want a state to sucuessed from the union over this mess. Won't happen but my god if it did think of the fireworks :-D

Several states across the country have actually seceded from the Union. As soon as the opportunity presents itself they'll go for it.

Several states across the country have actually seceded from the Union. As soon as the opportunity presents itself they'll go for it.

Source ?

No, only a nation with a functioning democratic based republic that has checks and balances.

Lol, take your hand off your heart.

I posted a link in that sentence, it doesn't work?

Yeah the link was to the announcement for the Black Eagles event which was about "developing illegal crowd-control weapons" ... I was wondering where you found the information or even how this related to this NDAA you're talking about ?

I don't know anything about it, but from what people are saying it's more to do with control over military budget and powers to detain ... unless there's been some case of this budget being spent on illegal weaponry I don't understand how this event could have been inspired by this NDAA you're talking about.

Seems like the same old song and dance for me. The politicians talk and talk, do something "drastic" and talk some more. But, at the last moment, they will either force themselves to do something, or simply say "We will discuss this later. Let's push it back to a later date!"

That is the way I see it, anyway. Happened last year. Forgot what it was about, though.

I do have a suspicion it was about the debt ceiling or something of the like.

I love how all anon members ending up being mostly British... There is a lack of things to do in the country side :-(. Also u guys need a good old civil war to sort out all that bad blood I mean England had three and we ended up with largest empire the world has seen.... Until we spent all our money....

Actually, last year was about the debt ceiling. The Republican's threw a fit and refused to pay the bills so the United States lost its AAA credit rating. The government was not shut down though. This is the first time it has been shut down since Clinton was in office, which is two decades. Ironically enough last time it got shut down a bunch of Republicans were throwing a hissy fit too. Which in turn lead to an all Democratic Congress the following election because people got pissed off.

I predict the same this time around. Kamikaze missions rarely turn out well and that is what the GOP is doing by holding America hostage.

Anonymous is primarily American.

Debt ceiling is going to be up for debate against on the 17th but honestly we needed this shut down because Government Health-Care is shady at best in it's current iteration.

I dont get why you don't have a tax funded core and then option to go private if u want better service iv yet to see valid argument. For not doing this to be honest

I dont get why you don't have a tax funded core and then option to go private if u want better service iv yet to see valid argument. For not doing this to be honest

Now, now. If he wants to be patriotic, let him. World needs more of that, honestly. People who are loyal to the original concepts set forth when the nation began.

The world really doesn't need more of people who think they're better than others. Epecially when it's done with such unquestioning devotion.

The world really doesn't need more of people who think they're better than others. Epecially when it's done with such unquestioning devotion.

Whatever you want to believe, you're not much better by stating that though.

Well at least you didn't inject your own biases into the discussion.

When using examples, I make sure both idiot-pools get treated equally, as they really can be equally as dumb.

Let's not turn this discussion toxic.

Did someone say TOXIC!?!?!?!?

now why do they always vote for the idiots?


I pretty much knew this crap would happen if Obama got elected the first time!...


Id say this supposed government shutdown is all Obamas fault seeing how from what ive been hearing is that he is trying to act like a dictator...

it almost seems like a conspiracy of some sort....


at this point in time a monkey would do a better job on being a president than Obama....


I may not know much of what is all going on up there but for one thing I do know is that they need to get rid of this guy and replace him with some other person...

if we had elected a smart person for president we wouldn't really be having these problem currently..


that is all I really have to say for my perception on this...


nearly every person in the government right now...is an idiot...

and from what ive been hearing, Obama has only proven me right...about him being an idiot.

Here's to hoping they get this BS ironed out before Fan Fest 2014 for those of us who do not yet have our passports.

(Note: Government Shutdown = no new passports issued)

While the State Department has issued a statement saying that passport services will remain GÇ£100 percentGÇ¥ operational, there's an important caveat. Namely, that if a passport agency is located in a government building that's been closed due to the shutdown, you may be looking at delays. Check with your local passport office.