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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:16:00 -
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 Here's to hoping they get this BS ironed out before Fan Fest 2014 for those of us who don't yet have our passports.
 
 (Note: Government Shutdown = no new passports issued)
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        |  Chunky Munkey
 Amarr Templars
 Amarr Empire
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:17:00 -
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 Do any other nations do stuff like that?
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:22:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:Do any other nations do stuff like that? 
 Nah, apparently they just take the money out of private accounts.
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        |  Operative 1171 Aajli
 Bragian Order
 Amarr Empire
 
 458
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:37:00 -
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 Chunky Munkey wrote:Do any other nations do stuff like that? 
 No, only a nation with a functioning democratic based republic that has checks and balances.
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 
 164
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:45:00 -
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 Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Do any other nations do stuff like that? No, only a nation with a functioning democratic based republic that has checks and balances. 
 Heh, "functioning". I wish it was, need my crop insurance claim to pay my crop insurance. . Which both come out and go to the same office.
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        |  low genius
 the sound of freedom
 Renegade Alliance
 
 593
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:47:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Here's to hoping they get this BS ironed out before Fan Fest 2014 for those of us who do not yet have our passports. 
 (Note: Government Shutdown = no new passports issued)
 
 
 I would much rather the government stays shut down than get my passport renewed. I love to travel but... I love the government shut down way more.
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        |  Poonmunch
 Sanguis Defense Syndicate
 
 431
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:57:00 -
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 Dude, that is insane.
 
 
 Munch
 
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
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      | Posted - 2013.10.01 13:58:00 -
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 low genius wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Here's to hoping they get this BS ironed out before Fan Fest 2014 for those of us who do not yet have our passports. 
 (Note: Government Shutdown = no new passports issued)
 I would much rather the government stays shut down than get my passport renewed. I love to travel but... I love the government shut down way more. 
 I agree, it was necessary (mostly because while doing my taxes last year I was told I'd have to pay an exponentially rising fine for not having the government supplied healthcare) but I -really- want to make it Fan Fest 2014 and I need my passport for that =<
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        |  Gods Architect
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 597
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:14:00 -
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 Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government
 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 3197
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:15:00 -
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 Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 
 Resource based economy, just like Iceland.
 
 Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.
 
 Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 
 164
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:17:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 Resource based economy, just like Iceland. Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.  Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway. 
 
 Why not Sweden? It's more a tech hot spot than Finland.
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        |  ReGnYuM
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 931
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:18:00 -
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 Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 
 It is amazing how ignorant people can be.
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        |  Gods Architect
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:19:00 -
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 ^^ Ahh I see where this is going XD
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        |  Callsign Grave
 Sinq Laison Gendarmes
 Gallente Federation
 
 15
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:20:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 Resource based economy, just like Iceland. Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.  Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway. Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time?
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 3198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:21:00 -
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 Callsign Grave wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 Resource based economy, just like Iceland. Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.  Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway. Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time? 
 Sure, apart from the CCTV controversy and similar issues of 'Big Brother' and government corruption that America experiences. Basically, so far as I know, England is just like America. Only without the guns.
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        |  Gods Architect
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:21:00 -
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 Callsign Grave wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 Resource based economy, just like Iceland. Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.  Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway. Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time? Their accents MY GOD... I want one
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        |  steadyhand amarr
 Amarr S.A.D
 
 1435
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:23:00 -
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 Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos
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        |  Rogue Saint
 Science For Death
 The Shadow Eclipse
 
 265
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:27:00 -
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 Gods Architect wrote:Callsign Grave wrote:Is England really good? Other than the rain or clouds all the time?
 Their accents MY GOD... I want one 
 No guns, free health care, and yes I have a great accent.
 
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 
 165
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:27:00 -
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 steadyhand amarr wrote:Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos 
 As a nihilist: it won't matter 6 weeks from now.
 As an investor: this doesn't do anything to promote the growth the capitalistic economy barley eeked out over the past half decade.
 As an angry American: you're coming down us!
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        |  Maken Tosch
 DUST University
 Ivy League
 
 4339
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:28:00 -
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 Source:
 http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/01/politics/government-shutdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
 
 Quote:Although much of the federal workforce will go without pay, checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress.
 
 Why? The 27th Amendment prevents any Congress from changing its own pay.
 
 "That is disgraceful in my view," said freshman Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii. "Basically the only people who get paid in a shutdown are members of Congress, and that is irresponsible."
 
 The combat veteran said she plans to send any pay she receives during the shutdown back to the Treasury.
 
 Rep. John Fleming, R-Louisiana, said he hadn't thought through what he would do with his paychecks, but said he would likely donate his pay during a shutdown to charity.
 
 "Obviously we need to share the pain of the American people," he said.
 
 The president too will get paid. His salary -- $400,000 -- is considered mandatory spending.
 
 On Monday, Attorney General Eric Holder said he would take a pay cut equal to the Justice Department employees most severely impacted by a shutdown.
 
 
 Disgusting, really. Our people are suffering but these guys get away with their own pay and probably still keep their lifetime pensions. These members of Congress, all of them, should be put to jail for life.
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6567
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:30:00 -
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 America will be just fine.
 
 We're set to be one of, if not THE leading producer of the worlds oil by the end of this decade.
 
 Granted any vague opinion the people think they have will vanish into that black abyss of power, but hey, at least we'll have front row seats.
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 3198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:31:00 -
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 Maken Tosch wrote:Source:http://www.cnn.com/2013/10/01/politics/government-shutdown/index.html?hpt=hp_t1 Quote:Although much of the federal workforce will go without pay, checks will keep coming to the 533 current members of Congress.
 
 Why? The 27th Amendment prevents any Congress from changing its own pay.
 
 "That is disgraceful in my view," said freshman Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii. "Basically the only people who get paid in a shutdown are members of Congress, and that is irresponsible."
 
 The combat veteran said she plans to send any pay she receives during the shutdown back to the Treasury.
 
 Rep. John Fleming, R-Louisiana, said he hadn't thought through what he would do with his paychecks, but said he would likely donate his pay during a shutdown to charity.
 
 "Obviously we need to share the pain of the American people," he said.
 
 The president too will get paid. His salary -- $400,000 -- is considered mandatory spending.
 
 On Monday, Attorney General Eric Holder said he would take a pay cut equal to the Justice Department employees most severely impacted by a shutdown.
 
 Disgusting, really. Our people are suffering but these guys get away with their own pay and probably still keep their lifetime pensions. These members of Congress, all of them, should be put to jail for life. 
 I live in Louisiana and am proud of John Fleming's standpoint on this.
 
 But, back to a Dust topic, it'd be nice if there were a system of government that acted like a hybrid of Caldari and Gallente values. Civil liberties and individual freedom with representatives not elected, but placed into their seat by merit.
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 2016
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:35:00 -
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 Gods Architect wrote:Congress + 2 party system + extremists + lawyers who seems to keep getting reelected some how + corporate greed + shady deals + hatred + old men + rich old men = US government 
 Me + US citizen + US armed forces + college + next generation + pay my taxes = worry about if I'll be able to pay my bills and college fee, but yet rich old men will let the government shutdown
 
 Damn welp I heard its nice in Canada
 similar situation without the armed forces.
 This doesn't bode well for me if this isn't over by yesterday :/.
 
 
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        |  Disturbingly Bored
 The Strontium Asylum
 
 755
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:38:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:Resource based economy, just like Iceland.
 
 Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.
 
 Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.
 
 
 Waitaminute. You're going to move to a true socialist country because you can't stand the U.S. government telling you that you need to get health insurance?
 
 What is this I don't even...
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        |  CCP Logibro
 C C P
 C C P Alliance
 
 2427
 
 
  
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:40:00 -
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 Moved to The Locker Room.
 CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics
 
 @CCP_Logibro
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        |  Sgt Kirk
 SyNergy Gaming
 EoN.
 
 2017
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:42:00 -
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 Disturbingly Bored wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Resource based economy, just like Iceland.
 
 Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.
 
 Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.
 Waitaminute. You're going to move to a true socialist country because you can't stand the U.S. government telling you that you need to get health insurance? What is this I don't even... It really depends.
 There is no right answer to economy but some people are alright with this while some aren't.
 It's more of a cultural / outlook thing.
 
 Of course I'm not ignorant enough to trash on another method when my own preferred way isn't perfect in anyway either.
 
 inb4 idiots, Capitalism =/= fascism. Socialism =/= Communism
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 3198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:44:00 -
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 Disturbingly Bored wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Resource based economy, just like Iceland.
 
 Thought about moving to Iceland but uhh.... Apparently pornography is illegal.
 
 Finland it is. I'm more privy to true socialism anyway.
 Waitaminute. You're going to move to a true socialist country because you can't stand the U.S. government telling you that you need to get health insurance? What is this I don't even... 
 No, my problem is that the US Government is telling me that I need to get health insurance but isn't willing to pay for it - they want me to pay for but I have absolutely no control over which doctor I go, what he prescribes me or what the Federal Government deems necessary as part of that health plan. If the government wants me to inject a chip into my hand as covered under their "medical devices" policies, I can't say anything against it because they're the ones mandating my (mandatory) health plan.
 
 On the other hand, a True Socialism like Finland actually funds their own health care. Their education system is far superior because they pay their teachers like our politicians and they all operate under the stance of "do whatever it takes" and beyond that, if you don't have your own land - the government provides land for you complete with home and stead.
 
 You can also work anywhere you'd like because the card they give you is applicable at any location you are qualified to work. If there are too many people at the mill today I can just go over to the black smith and work iron - still make the same pay.
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        |  steadyhand amarr
 Amarr S.A.D
 
 1437
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:44:00 -
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 Soldner VonKuechle wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos As a nihilist: it won't matter 6 weeks from now.  As an investor: this doesn't do anything to promote the growth the capitalistic economy barley eeked out over the past half decade.  As an angry American: you're coming down us! 
 The us econ is a reserve currency if that becomes uncreable well it's never happend but it will make the great depression look like a picnic. I personally want a state to sucuessed from the union over this mess. Won't happen but my god if it did think of the fireworks :-D
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        |  Aeon Amadi
 A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
 
 3198
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:46:00 -
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 steadyhand amarr wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos As a nihilist: it won't matter 6 weeks from now.  As an investor: this doesn't do anything to promote the growth the capitalistic economy barley eeked out over the past half decade.  As an angry American: you're coming down us! The us econ is a reserve currency if that becomes uncreable well it's never happend but it will make the great depression look like a picnic. I personally want a state to sucuessed from the union over this mess. Won't happen but my god if it did think of the fireworks :-D 
 Albany, NY practically declared war against the United States if they tried to enforce the NDAA in the city. I thought that was amusing.
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        |  Soldner VonKuechle
 SAM-MIK
 
 166
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.10.01 14:59:00 -
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 Aeon Amadi wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Ragnum this a topic you proabaly don't want to troll. Anyway everyone at this side of the pond is in shock and I know q number of people are looking at backing out of US investments assuming the market does not freak out. This whole thing has really damage America creditability and I hope they get it sorted before they default on debt because that really will be chaos As a nihilist: it won't matter 6 weeks from now.  As an investor: this doesn't do anything to promote the growth the capitalistic economy barley eeked out over the past half decade.  As an angry American: you're coming down us! The us econ is a reserve currency if that becomes uncreable well it's never happend but it will make the great depression look like a picnic. I personally want a state to sucuessed from the union over this mess. Won't happen but my god if it did think of the fireworks :-D Albany, NY practically declared war against the United States if they tried to enforce the NDAA in the city. I thought that was amusing. 
 There's a township near Boulder CO that has a standing bounty on drones. Also amusing.
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