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Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 2015	Posted - 2013.10.01 02:11:00 - [91] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: This is the original intended price, the previous price was a promotional price. I understand you might think that is shady, but it's not at all. The lowered price enabled us to test the waters, allowing more people to get the item at a lower cost so we could see the impact on a larger scale to our system. This price is the non-sale price. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding! No
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. 802	Posted - 2013.10.01 03:13:00 - [92] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: 65k for the Omega booster? That's a ***** 33% increase from the previously released ones. Are you on crack? That's the greediest *** I've seen since War Z's server fiasco. (now called Zombie Survival Stories or some stupid ). Don't give me that supply and demand bullshit either. Purposely limiting items to raise the demand doesn't justify increasing the damn price by 33%. That's shady as fuckin hell. How hilarious it is, that after all the bullshit I've waded through on the development team, and not minding the length of time it takes to create a decent game, It's the marketing team that makes me say you and your game. See you on the PS4 if you ever ***** make it there with you greedy assholes. Awww QQQQ. Deal with it. Went on vacation during the offseason. Why? Well during the regular season all motel rooms are double or triple at most vacation spots. Business. Deal with it.
lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 89	Posted - 2013.10.01 03:26:00 - [93] - Quote Ummmm....I actually have to fully agree with the OP on this one and say that the marketing team is very very very wrong. Why, the answer is very simple, for close to the price of 1 omega booster, I can buy freaking Skyrim for 30 bucks as well, and that's a full triple A game with really great plot, graphics, etc. I'm not trying to say which game is better....(Skyrim by miles) but I'm trying to point out the fact that I can buy a full game that was professionally worked on for way more hours then Dust 514 has been, has active support by a modding community, for the same price as an Omega booster which is just DLC and not even that great of DLC at that. I thought about buying a lot of things on Dust before in the past, but the simple truth is, the prices are far to high for the service currently being provided as exampled within being able to purchase Skyrim for around the same price. I'm sure you all have seen the 100k and 200k weapon packs and things like that. How most of the gear is literally trash gear, things that most people won't even use and people just buy them to support the company. But my counterpoint as a consumer who wants the most for his money, is that these products are sub par for what is being given and far out weigh any benefits they might give. The best deal for people wanting to get intrested in the game which is the merc pack, is being taken down and I think permanetly, unless they plan to offer a merc pack 3, but I doubt it. But how many of you are actually willing to spend 50 dollars for the Vet pack on a game that isn't finished and is constantly in what most would call a beta. 20 dollars was the exact right amount for a game that is untested, so yeah to me the marketing deparment/sales department for Dust are out of their minds. They are eliminating reasons to actually buy the Aurum and making the packages far to expensive for the contents within them, not to mention that the elite and vetern packs are race exclusive suits within that you can't pick what race you want. So by these measures, I agree with the OP, not out of blind hate, but out of being a savy consumer, who wants to spend his money wisely and feel that the corporation he is giving the money to values the money he is spending. I want Dust to do very well and to become a great game, but I am not going to just throw good money at a developer for no reason.
Asirius Medaius Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore 545	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:42:00 - [94] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Did you really just say that? Must be another fox news loving american. So let me put this a way that your Reagan worshipping mind might understand. Remember the dis-proven Laffer curve? The one where if you tax at a higher rate you get less taxes? Well supply and demand works kinda the same way. This means that by pricing these items so high, CCP has actually decreased the amount of profit they could make from these items. (i know incredibly simplified but consider the audience.) If priced at fanfair pricing, people may have bought enough of these boosters for a year, spending hundreds each. Instead they decided to overcharge for them and most have turned away. Dear shoeless hippy, How about you let capitalism work. If they arent selling well, CCP can do something about it on their own. Dear Mr. Republican (I can't think of a worse insult tbh), I know your educational system is horrible, and you live in a neopotism based economy, so I forgive your cro-magnon views on the poor (btw jesus loved the poor and hated the rich). This is reality though, we are looking to engage in a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship with CCP as consumers. While I have no problem walking away from the omega boosters, I do have a problem with mismanagement in the marketing division of a game company I greatly enjoy. They are throwing away GOBS of money, and that type of descision making process does not inspire confidence in the future of this game I enjoy. Oh and to the people complaining about baying more in Euros, be glad we don't have many Tea Partiers or american republican/christians. I know I will gladly pay more to keep that type of society out. 1. Very nice post 2. Democrats for the win. 3. I am glad people here think it is reasonable that spending 30 dollars for ~750,000 SP is "worth it". The developers keep the game afloat, and I don't have to pay anymore than I already did (spent 20 dollars on this game, probably won't spend another for at least another year; grad school does that to you). Next time Dustbunnies start yelling about how much money they spent on a game with slow progress and demand faster updates, we can laugh at them harder. 4. Go CCP! P.S.: CCP, please put this game on the PS4 eventually, I'm tired of the PS3 limiting our draw distance and player count (in batles) because it is outdated technology.
crazy space 1 Unkn0wn Killers 1772	Posted - 2013.10.01 04:47:00 - [95] - Quote CCP Mintchip wrote: This is the original intended price, the previous price was a promotional price. I understand you might think that is shady, but it's not at all. The lowered price enabled us to test the waters, allowing more people to get the item at a lower cost so we could see the impact on a larger scale to our system. This price is the non-sale price. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding! Faceplam, way to miss the point... But... EVERY OTHER GAME EVER MAKES THINGS LESS EXPENSIVE AS THE BONUS GETS BIGGER I yelled from the rooftops, but no devs hear because they are crazy sometimes. I guess you think it's not worth double since it's double the exp in the same timeframe. But there is still over 30 examples of other MMOs with the same item as the omega booster and they are cheaper than the smaller bonuses. What kind of design team do you have in there! Don't you want money? I felt the same way with the 80$ monocle and T-shirts in eve online in the MT Store are still more expensive than shirts in real life....
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 25	Posted - 2013.10.01 06:54:00 - [96] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: All of this supply demand is all just speculation people. Do any of you have charts outlining the sales of Omega Boosters? No? Didn't think so! As someone stated earlier in the thread, the Omega SP gain is equal to multiple normal boosters for less cost. So tell me as a consumer, would you rather buy 2 boosters for $20 each which gave you 100k SP each or 1 booster for 30 dollars which gave you 300k SP? Which is the better deal? Furthermore, do you have sales charts on the normal boosters so you have an idea of what the booster market in general looks like? What about charts comparing the sales of Normal boosters vs the Sales of Omega boosters at the time of the last Omega booster Sale? Do you have charts outlining the increase or decline in overall booster sales from the end of the last Omega Booster sale? No? HTFU! Stop your whining! If you can't afford the damn things, or don't agree on the price then don't buy them! Do you go to the department store and haggle the cashier because you don't feel like you should have to pay $60 for that brand new game? No? Why are you crying about boosters in a free to play game? For christ's sake grow up! I can afford them. I'm a grown up and earn a decent living. $32 for what 720,000 SP gives you is highway robbery Then like I said, don't buy them. it's really easy. Just. Don't. By them. Sorry to disappoint but I want to see this game succeed. The CPM has already said they have requested an audience with CCP over this price. It's too high, it's that simple. I don't think the CPM's concern is over the price, but the current form of the boosters. What I feel many people forget is that Yes, lower price point would mean more money for ccp, but then more people would advance too fast potentially screwing the game up
Shrapnels The Order 1886 217	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:05:00 - [97] - Quote dammmm what a scam
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Top Men. 289	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:06:00 - [98] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: Crash Monster wrote: You may find logic and reality often do not intrude into this realm. Are you talking about the playerbase or CCP? Because I'm pretty sure any economist worth his salt would say that when demand for your product is tanking (based on peak user trendline) you lower prices rather than increase them. Only a ****** would do the opposite. Other than being a mouthy bastard -- do you have any actual information to share with us? Do you think lowering the price of omega boosters will entice more people to start playing the game? Really? Maybe you have some inside information concerning the revenues of CCP versus costs? Maybe you know if CCP is trying to determine optimal rates for once they do get more players on? What in the slim shady depths of hell do you actually know? 400 warpoints is eight kills, or four hacks. It is a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see if that is a bad warpoint cap for the Academy. $30 for 720k skillpoints... immediately? No. After a week? No. After a whole month. It takes a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see that the sane majority will spend that money on an actual AAA title rather than to get level 5 in the hacking skill for an incomplete product that is haemorrhaging players.
fawkuima juggalo Hollowed Kings 57	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:15:00 - [99] - Quote Duran Lex wrote: Kane Fyea wrote: CCP is a business so yes they want money. Deal with it. McDonalds is a business, you don't see them increasing the price of the damn McRib by 33% each time they release it. I don't deal with shady fuckin business practices. tell me...how the f* do you know what mcdonald's does with there prices. like micky d's aint shady, you sound like a douche....... a company that POISONS there customers for PROFIT.. ha!!! i guarantee that they take an item of to INCREASE THEIR VALUE. it just makes people want them more. you sir do not understand but I do understand that these are only for rich kids seeing how us cheapskates are gonna buy the cheaper ones cuz they offer the same for cheaper just takes more time but you still have like 8,00 more aurum left. so because i understand a lil business that is what i will do ... quit b**in. i totally promote RICH KIDS WITH NO SKILLS buying as much boosters as they can so it will make our game BETTER get the point?
Calroon DeVil Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 140	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:29:00 - [100] - Quote Guys come on, it's common sense. Dust is dying at a rapid rate and the ones staying have to make up for the loss of cash in form of a price increase. Not really complicated. Suck it up and pay. I heard rumors that if you buy enough of them, eventually there will be a PC version of the game

Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1929	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:47:00 - [101] - Quote I get that they cost more than twice as much as a normal booster, and that's honestly fine. But you know what isn't fine? The cost of passive booster and active boosters to begin with. (I won't even get started on the bonuses they give) The idea that someone's paying roughly 30$ a month for a dream that hasn't been realized. Twice the 'industry standard' for a subscription fee, for a game that's horribly incomplete and riddled with problems. It's straight up offensive. Then add in omega boosters that hike that up to $50+ a month? Talk about a kick in the balls. But you know what's even more sad than the perception within CCP that this is fine to do? The fact that people are still going to buy the **** out of it, because they want to 'stay competitive' and because it gives a definite advantage to the people who have it. It's the very nature of a pvp gamer's mentality. Gravitate towards the best items, take any advantage you can get... even if you have to pay for it. I don't care how CCP justifies this. Boosters have always been Pay to Win. Even if their own definition of pay2win doesn't see it that way... Their customers do.
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 287	Posted - 2013.10.01 08:51:00 - [102] - Quote The higher price of Omega boosters wasn't revealed until it hit the market. Some people had already loaded up funds onto PSN expecting the initial price. That's pretty shady, but the lesson here is look before you leap.
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 201	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:19:00 - [103] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: Master Jaraiya wrote: Quote: I hate that everything is cheaper in America. It's 20Gé¼ in Europe. :/ $20 is 14.79 Euros... You've got to be sh1tting me Nope. Now that the US government has shut down you can expect the value of the dollar to drop a bit more... The Democrats and Republicans had a spat over who got the most cookies off the cookie tray, and refused to pass funding for the next year.... sigh
Shion Typhon Intara Direct Action Caldari State 280	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:20:00 - [104] - Quote It astounds me in this day and age with the living example of the success of Apple & Android App + Music stores and Steam sales that marketing departments still haven't learned the power of microtransactions. Its like they are trapped in the 70s ... running a department store, not a 21st century electronic business.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 1932	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:29:00 - [105] - Quote Shion Typhon wrote: It astounds me in this day and age with the living example of the success of Apple & Android App + Music stores and Steam sales that marketing departments still haven't learned the power of microtransactions. Its like they are trapped in the 70s ... running a department store, not a 21st century electronic business. Exactly. CCP is not getting the 'micro' part of microtransactions. :(
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 90	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:30:00 - [106] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: This is the original intended price, the previous price was a promotional price. I understand you might think that is shady, but it's not at all. The lowered price enabled us to test the waters, allowing more people to get the item at a lower cost so we could see the impact on a larger scale to our system. This price is the non-sale price. I hope that clears up the misunderstanding! It sure does! But it also doesn't mean they're not a bad idea in their current form, either. My people will be in touch with your people soon and hopefully we can brainstorm some improvements. Please let's just remove Omega boosters from the market and never again talk about them. IMO compared to standard boosters the pricing is fair from my point of view - yes, I would charge for items giving two times the advantage at least 2 times, most real world item pricing is pretty similar (for an example see home routers vs enterprise routers, they both can do pretty much the same, but perform differently)
DeeJay One Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 90	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:32:00 - [107] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I get that they cost more than twice as much as a normal booster, and that's honestly fine. But you know what isn't fine? The cost of passive booster and active boosters to begin with. (I won't even get started on the bonuses they give) [--snip--] I don't care how CCP justifies this. Boosters have always been Pay to Win. Even if their own definition of pay2win doesn't see it that way... Their customers do. Agree 100% on that, but based on current pricing see my post above
KingBabar The Rainbow Effect 1188	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:40:00 - [108] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Did you really just say that? Must be another fox news loving american. So let me put this a way that your Reagan worshipping mind might understand. Remember the dis-proven Laffer curve? The one where if you tax at a higher rate you get less taxes? Well supply and demand works kinda the same way. This means that by pricing these items so high, CCP has actually decreased the amount of profit they could make from these items. (i know incredibly simplified but consider the audience.) If priced at fanfair pricing, people may have bought enough of these boosters for a year, spending hundreds each. Instead they decided to overcharge for them and most have turned away. Dear shoeless hippy, How about you let capitalism work. If they arent selling well, CCP can do something about it on their own. Dear Mr. Republican (I can't think of a worse insult tbh), I know your educational system is horrible, and you live in a neopotism based economy, so I forgive your cro-magnon views on the poor (btw jesus loved the poor and hated the rich). This is reality though, we are looking to engage in a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship with CCP as consumers. While I have no problem walking away from the omega boosters, I do have a problem with mismanagement in the marketing division of a game company I greatly enjoy. They are throwing away GOBS of money, and that type of descision making process does not inspire confidence in the future of this game I enjoy. Oh and to the people complaining about baying more in Euros, be glad we don't have many Tea Partiers or american republican/christians. I know I will gladly pay more to keep that type of society out. Good points, but I gotta ask: Did Jesus really hate? As a non-Christian I don't know much about these things, I know that God hates various people, like homosexuals, jews and transformers, but Jesus hating? Really?
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1541	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:45:00 - [109] - Quote Aran Abbas wrote: 400 warpoints is eight kills, or four hacks. It is a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see if that is a bad warpoint cap for the Academy. $30 for 720k skillpoints... immediately? No. After a week? No. After a whole month. It takes a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see that the sane majority will spend that money on an actual AAA title rather than to get level 5 in the hacking skill for an incomplete product that is haemorrhaging players. LOL, yes, and do you know the foundation of science and human progress? Questioning the obvious to find out how things actually work. You might be right. You might be wrong. What does humanity do to advance itself -- it does an experiment. Now, I don't know if this is an experiment, or simply a non-sale price level. I don't care. If you don't want to buy the product don't ******* buy the product.
Banning Hammer Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 1531	Posted - 2013.10.01 09:57:00 - [110] - Quote CCP is selling SP like drugs, and you addicted to it. I'll say the Marketing team are the "Dealers". But, hey.. you can always find a Rehabilitation Center if you can't afforded.

hamual jackson OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 34	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:15:00 - [111] - Quote Omega booster prices are OP.......... Nerf
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1706	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:38:00 - [112] - Quote Crimson Cerberes wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Crimson Cerberes wrote: Did you really just say that? Must be another fox news loving american. So let me put this a way that your Reagan worshipping mind might understand. Remember the dis-proven Laffer curve? The one where if you tax at a higher rate you get less taxes? Well supply and demand works kinda the same way. This means that by pricing these items so high, CCP has actually decreased the amount of profit they could make from these items. (i know incredibly simplified but consider the audience.) If priced at fanfair pricing, people may have bought enough of these boosters for a year, spending hundreds each. Instead they decided to overcharge for them and most have turned away. Dear shoeless hippy, How about you let capitalism work. If they arent selling well, CCP can do something about it on their own. Dear Mr. Republican (I can't think of a worse insult tbh), I know your educational system is horrible, and you live in a neopotism based economy, so I forgive your cro-magnon views on the poor (btw jesus loved the poor and hated the rich). This is reality though, we are looking to engage in a MUTUALLY beneficial relationship with CCP as consumers. While I have no problem walking away from the omega boosters, I do have a problem with mismanagement in the marketing division of a game company I greatly enjoy. They are throwing away GOBS of money, and that type of descision making process does not inspire confidence in the future of this game I enjoy. Oh and to the people complaining about baying more in Euros, be glad we don't have many Tea Partiers or american republican/christians. I know I will gladly pay more to keep that type of society out. I never claimed I was a republican. I just don't like people who reject common sense. The party you choose to follow does not dictate the use of your brain, although in your case it appears that it might.
Aran Abbas Goonfeet Top Men. 290	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:45:00 - [113] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Aran Abbas wrote: 400 warpoints is eight kills, or four hacks. It is a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see if that is a bad warpoint cap for the Academy. $30 for 720k skillpoints... immediately? No. After a week? No. After a whole month. It takes a stupid individual or company that needs to run a test to see that the sane majority will spend that money on an actual AAA title rather than to get level 5 in the hacking skill for an incomplete product that is haemorrhaging players. LOL, yes, and do you know the foundation of science and human progress? Questioning the obvious to find out how things actually work. You might be right. You might be wrong. What does humanity do to advance itself -- it does an experiment. Now, I don't know if this is an experiment, or simply a non-sale price level. I don't care. If you don't want to buy the product don't ******* buy the product. The foundation of science and human progress is not being dumb. This principle was discovered several hundred years ago. It has, unfortunately, not been adopted by everyone. Some still feel the need to do dumb things rather than taking a few seconds to think.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1644	Posted - 2013.10.01 10:54:00 - [114] - Quote Gods Architect wrote: ^^ You can do what most do. Don't buy it... you know its still an option Maybe, just maybe, letting them know how you feel rather than just withdrawing custom is a better way to have them improve their sales practices.
Himiko Kuronaga SyNergy Gaming EoN. 1706	Posted - 2013.10.01 11:13:00 - [115] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I get that they cost more than twice as much as a normal booster, and that's honestly fine. But you know what isn't fine? The cost of passive booster and active boosters to begin with. (I won't even get started on the bonuses they give) The idea that someone's paying roughly 30$ a month for a dream that hasn't been realized. Twice the 'industry standard' for a subscription fee, for a game that's horribly incomplete and riddled with problems. It's straight up offensive. Then add in omega boosters that hike that up to $50+ a month? Talk about a kick in the balls. But you know what's even more sad than the perception within CCP that this is fine to do? The fact that people are still going to buy the **** out of it, because they want to 'stay competitive' and because it gives a definite advantage to the people who have it. It's the very nature of a pvp gamer's mentality. Gravitate towards the best items, take any advantage you can get... even if you have to pay for it. I don't care how CCP justifies this. Boosters have always been Pay to Win. Even if their own definition of pay2win doesn't see it that way... Their customers do. Now this, on the other hand, is a post I can actually respect as it removes all sense of automatic entitlement and actually attempts to assess the worth of the product versus the competition on the market. If you were to ask me, I would say that you are perhaps looking at things the wrong way. Ideally the standard, "boosted" service should meet roughly at where a subscription for a regular game would lie -- $15.00 US for example. If you pay the value raw and simply buy month-long boosters, it averages closer to 17$ for passive and active boosters (assuming you are being smart and buying veteran packs instead of raw aurum). It gets obviously gets crazier when you start going into Omega's. As pointed out, however, you can virtually double the effectiveness of whatever aurum is set aside for the active boosters by strategically using them on 7 day boosters during Sunday hours -- effectively paying for one week of booster, but getting the SP of two. This actually reduces the overall cost of regular boosters to somewhere closer to the 10$ range per month which is typically less than a subscription based game. The passive booster remains the largest money sink, as there is no way to manipulate the performance of that. It is either on, or it's off. The Omega sets obviously remain pricier than a regular subscription game, but again -- are cheaper if used strategically. I find it very difficult to recommend a passive omega booster though. Ideally, CCP would have to lower the price of the passive to make it more attractive but would have to keep the active around the same due to the strategic usage of it already making its value better than intended.
Dante Kretschmer D3LTA ACADEMY 89	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:00:00 - [116] - Quote The price is unbelievable. Just unbelievable. As Nova Knife stated, it is twice the subscription of any other sub based MMO. For the incomplete game that Dust is, it's in no way justified Two passive boosters are cheaper, i'd go with that were I to buy anything. I have the patience, because this price is for impatient people. But increasing the price without saying that last omega boosters were a special promotion to test on us....BAD marketing move. And besides that, it's just overpriced. Period.
Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 1035	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:04:00 - [117] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: I get that they cost more than twice as much as a normal booster, and that's honestly fine. But you know what isn't fine? The cost of passive booster and active boosters to begin with. (I won't even get started on the bonuses they give) The idea that someone's paying roughly 30$ a month for a dream that hasn't been realized. Twice the 'industry standard' for a subscription fee, for a game that's horribly incomplete and riddled with problems. It's straight up offensive. Then add in omega boosters that hike that up to $50+ a month? Talk about a kick in the balls. But you know what's even more sad than the perception within CCP that this is fine to do? The fact that people are still going to buy the **** out of it, because they want to 'stay competitive' and because it gives a definite advantage to the people who have it. It's the very nature of a pvp gamer's mentality. Gravitate towards the best items, take any advantage you can get... even if you have to pay for it. I don't care how CCP justifies this. Boosters have always been Pay to Win. Even if their own definition of pay2win doesn't see it that way... Their customers do. The problem here is, it is not a subscription fee. Boosters are completely optional. You do not need them to "stay competitive" I stay competitive without a hitch, and I have only bought two boosters since I started the game in March. Just because some people's perception of what they need to stay competitive leads them to buy boosters, doesn't mean one must buy boosters to stay competitive. You can only bring so much to a battle in terms of SP. Once you reach that point, everything else equates to having more options. If one wishes to reach this point 'faster' or to have more options 'faster' they may do so with boosters, but it is not required. The decision lies solely with the consumer. If enough of the community is disgruntled over the price of boosters, then boosters would not sell. If boosters do not sell, the price would be lowered, no forum whining needed. This is the basic fundamental of a free enterprise system. Clearly, the majority of the community are not up in arms over the price of boosters, so why do the CPM feel obligated to white knight for the whiners? This smells of personal agenda on the part of the CPM. The majority of the player base, in my opinion, seems more concerned with the lack of basic content. We all want things that should have been here in May such as All racial dropsuits and vehicles. We also want additional content that could have been added by now, but hasn't such as different types of equipment, cloaking modules, for example, or different game modes, more maps, team deployment in FW. The list goes on and on. The price of boosters is not a concern for the majority of the player base, and shouldn't be for the CPM either.
THE DRUNK CABBY Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:13:00 - [118] - Quote This is the plan to keep the new blood around, while closing the gap on you vets. As for the price they only have a handful of people that are buying aur for boosters. Be honest less people are gonna buy these now simply cause there's less around to buy. The new players aren't as invested as the beta guys. And they want to see how addicted you are. It's A digital item with no real world value .....so them just doubling the price is greedy yes but also a way to gauge the demand. Although had they sold them for half the old price the only thing it costs them is people leveling up quicker ,which shouldn't be a big deal to a game with a "5 year plan" Game is one foot in the grave. Why waste your money for digital items for a dying game.
843 Epidemic Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 202	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:20:00 - [119] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: 843 Epidemic wrote: CCP you are fools. Or at least your marketing division. The aforementioned product (Booster) I imagine is costing you next to... $0 to employ? Right? So essentially you're making 100% profit. If you're making that much profit you LOWER the price, because you want more sales. The HIGHER the price the LESS sales you make hence the LESS profit you generate. At this point in time that booster costs roughly $30. From this booster, in the time-frame of a month you gain 1,344,000 Skill points. So one would be paying $30 for that many skill points. That can't even buy you level 5 on, say, maxing your CPU upgrade for 0. In a FTP game If I give you -ú30 I STILL can't get that measly 25% CPU reduction (which isn't measly but, you get the point). It may seem like a weird example and I'm SURE you don't think about it like that, but people who buy these things tend to do the maths, and you aren't at all. Let's suppose, and I'm English so I'll be talking in terms of Sterling (-ú), an Omega booster costs me roughly -ú10. Great, I will definitely buy one EVEN THOUGH I've never bought any AURUM based product on Dust, that sounds like a bargain. charge me close to -ú30? No. Now, I know what you're thinking that means you're making less profit per month if I'm buying one a month, however that's supposing I even BUY one a month. At $30 a month (Which is significantly higher than most subscription based games) you really think people are going to buy this more than once? Sure maybe some rich ******* or the lonely neckbeards but not your average player, no way. On a product that costs you next to nothing (I imagine, correct if I'm wrong) where there is no delivery and no stakeholders to pay when you are making probably close to 100% profit you DO NOT raise the price higher than your average player. On an item where all you make is profit you want to make it cheap so that everyone can buy it, and buy it often. People are even likely to buy in bulk at a cheaper price, offer some economies of scale or something! You just can't slap a random price tag without actually working out how ridiculous your pricing strategy is. I appreciate it's a free game, but charging $30 for something that only lasts a month and really isn't even that great is just shocking. One can buy a game that lasts for months for less money. And if I'm right, one can actually subscribe to EVE online for less!!! Morale of the story CCP: If you aim to satisfy your customers, your wallet will be satisfied. IF you aim to satisfy your wallet then your customers will not be satisfied, and neither will your wallet. NB: My figures may be a little off, I'm going of the number I'm told are apparent. You are getting an extra 24,000 per day. It's around 720,000 that you GAIN. You get the other 24,000 just for activating the Passive SP on that character. If it were that much of a gain I'd start to come around on it. I'm also guessing that 90% of those that are supportive of the price haven't contributed much in the form of currency for this game. And won't be purchasing a booster regardless of price. I've spent hundreds on this game. This is me talking as a customer that expects a fair price for a product. I've been okay with the AUR gouging up to this point, but this price is too much. Ah yes you are right about the figures, it was late when I wrote that I knew I would be off! But yes the point remains that the price is ridiculous, for paying customers like you or ones who don't like myself I really don't think anyone is interested in this.
NAV HIV The Generals EoN. 451	Posted - 2013.10.01 13:26:00 - [120] - Quote So far bought almost everything. Tried it out. Even at 46k 30+30 active passive makes a lot of sense. But 65k just isn't worth it. if it was 40k i'd still understand. but 65k is just a little too shady... You can hike up the price of a bentley, cause you can justify most of it. Can't ask for the same price hike for a toyota tho...



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