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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:15:00 -
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How many people and Corps have given up on dust and left?
& how many have stayed?
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1255
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:20:00 -
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Interesting. I don't have the numbers myself. Just from my perspective, I've seen some of the recently made corps fall apart and some new ones beginning to rise in numbers.
PC is the end game for many corporations. You can argue that's the case for 98 percent of the corporations. But PC is a daunting task for the new and uninitiated. You go into PC and get some spirits crushed by guys who have been holding down the turf for who knows how long.
So its back to the grind to get better. But then some people just lose all interest altogether. There's a season for everything though... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9040
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:29:00 -
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Can't tell, bother me at springtime.
About 6 months ago we had 4.1k players, we had 4.1k players today. |
LISA MICHELLE
WARRIORS 1NC
14
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:29:00 -
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Honestly i think its failing. When the PS4 comes out with all the new amazing games i think it will be the final nail in the coffin. This game already feels like a dinosaur with movement speed exct. (even the scout) |
LISA MICHELLE
WARRIORS 1NC
14
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:32:00 -
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I mean at any given time how many people do you see on the server tops? 3,000 to 5,000 and its free to play.. That says it all. All i ever see for the most part are familiar names that ive been seeing for over a year and most of those guys have moved on |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
1510
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:39:00 -
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Is just not moving, is been the same numbers all the way throughout Uprising. Half of the community left in the official release (for what ever reason), and CCP have failed to replace that numbers, provably to do with the SP gap. |
steadyhand amarr
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1418
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Posted - 2013.09.29 09:42:00 -
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2-5k at any point during the day, the game is very stable and has weatherd the barrage of new games quite well tbh |
Spaceman-Rob
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
171
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:00:00 -
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I really don't understand the lack of interest in Dust, for me its already a better game than the two biggest shooters out there, bf and cod, I also dont understand the lack of support from Eve players who have a huge player base, you would think they would want this game to sucseed. Hopefully with the ban on consoles in China being lifted things will improve. |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1258
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:15:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I really don't understand the lack of interest in Dust, for me its already a better game than the two biggest shooters out there, bf and cod, I also dont understand the lack of support from Eve players who have a huge player base, you would think they would want this game to sucseed. Hopefully with the ban on consoles in China being lifted things will improve.
I once read it's a thinking man's shooter. The problem is that the new recruit is memory trained from other FPS titles so that when they come to Dust, its a very rude awakening. It's unlike any other FPS title and to compare it to others is quite wrong.
Also, some people expect Dust 514 to be a polished gem by now without understanding this ambitious project takes time.
As long as we as a community keeps supporting, Dust will keep on growing...
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Cosgar
ParagonX
5550
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:24:00 -
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Dust 514 = Hovering ~3000 players average, which is damn good for a FTP game.
Dust 514 Forums = Cutting their inner thighs with razors while listening to Linkin Park. |
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steadyhand amarr
Ametat Security
Amarr Empire
1419
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dust 514 = Hovering ~3000 players average, which is damn good for a FTP game.
Dust 514 Forums = Cutting their inner thighs with razors while listening to Linkin Park.
yeh i worked out that what people think in the game is vastly different to what people post on the fourms :D IRC is normally a better reflection |
ADAM-OF-EVE
Svartur Bjorn
Neo Terra Empire
373
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:30:00 -
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LISA MICHELLE wrote:Honestly i think its failing. When the PS4 comes out with all the new amazing games i think it will be the final nail in the coffin. This game already feels like a dinosaur with movement speed exct. (even the scout)
the new amazing games you can also for the most part get for ps3 aswell.. yes going to be a killer for dust...i think not |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1263
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:34:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dust 514 = Hovering ~3000 players average, which is damn good for a FTP game.
Dust 514 Forums = Cutting their inner thighs with razors while listening to Linkin Park.
LMFAO!!!
"Cause I'm one step closer to the edge!!! and I"mma bout to break!!!"
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2526
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Posted - 2013.09.29 10:48:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Dust 514 = Hovering ~3000 players average, which is damn good for a FTP game.
Dust 514 Forums = Cutting their inner thighs with razors while listening to Linkin Park.
Lol wut? |
Karl Koekwaus
Tronhadar Free Guard
Minmatar Republic
186
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:08:00 -
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checking the market in EVE for Dust equipment bought and player numbers on eve-offline, it is more stable than most people would like to admit. |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
256
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:11:00 -
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Our corp continues to grow both with new and vet players. A friendly corp recently merged with us so we are even stronger now. These doom and gloom threads are usually started by 15 year olds with the attention span of a gold fish.
We have a core of very active players and its our job to motivate the rest to continue to play, which we do, despite the release of "off the shelf" titles that people go play for a little while. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2527
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:21:00 -
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Everyone's free to like whatever they want, but objectively, DUST is not healthy. Stable for the time being, although a single player game did take away 500 PCU recently.
The most troubling sign is boosters are no longer top sellers. That means even if the players are still here, the money isn't. Don't be delusional, CCP is not going to run DUST at a loss for years.
The people who still enjoy playing have to spend more money if they ever want to see the "5 year plan". |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
297
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:24:00 -
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Banning Hammer wrote:Is just not moving, is been the same numbers all the way throughout Uprising. Half of the community left in the official release (for what ever reason), and CCP have failed to replace that numbers, provably to do with the SP gap.
those would have been the nerfed vehicle users well 95% of them |
Mighty No 9
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:25:00 -
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neither i think it still in the Beta phase hm.. no Gamma and the real Dust will come 2014.5.14 or 01.05.14 :) |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
297
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:25:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Everyone's free to like whatever they want, but objectively, DUST is not healthy. Stable for the time being, although a single player game did take away 500 PCU recently.
The most troubling sign is boosters are no longer top sellers. That means even if the players are still here, the money isn't. Don't be delusional, CCP is not going to run DUST at a loss for years.
The people who still enjoy playing have to spend more money if they ever want to see the "5 year plan".
do such a people exist i thought everyone who plays dust hates it. |
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Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
180
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Posted - 2013.09.29 11:37:00 -
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[quote=Noc Tempre]The most troubling sign is boosters are no longer top sellers. That means even if the players are still here, the money isn't. Don't be delusional, CCP is not going to run DUST at a loss for years.
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Are you sure about that? I mean boosters have a set nuber that is realistic sell volume based on player population, since thay have a set expiration date.
Let's for argumet sake assume population is 8000 players and that all of them bought booster. That's 8000 units of single type booster sold. If that booster were 30 day one then thats another month when those players would need to buy booster again.
We have had a discounts of AUR modules ant other items, as cheap as 10AUR a piece, granted manu of players agree that AUR items in general are a waste, but even then it's easy to fill that top 5 AUR items sold chart with other than boosters. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
9047
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Posted - 2013.09.29 12:05:00 -
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Booster sales?
(sekritly bee leaves peeple R conspiring saving R rum 4 +¬ boosters.) |
Odiain Suliis
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
180
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Posted - 2013.09.29 12:24:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Booster sales?
(sekritly bee leaves peeple R conspiring saving R rum 4 +¬ boosters.)
True. |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
2530
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:17:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Booster sales?
(sekritly bee leaves peeple R conspiring saving R rum 4 +¬ boosters.)
This is a trend for several months. Omega boosters are CCP's response. But you just couldn't stop yourself from a useless blind defense of everything CCP. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
395
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:21:00 -
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My Corp and Alliance are still here \o/
But PC has gotten a little hard....
You know who you are :P |
Synbot
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
205
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:34:00 -
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Stagnant. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
232
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:49:00 -
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Numbers are stable but I have seen a number of vets that I was used to seeing just disappear. This, however, was replaced by new players seeking to test out a new game. So, the question actually is: how do we keep the players that we have now while adding fresh faces? Simple, really.
1. Marketing. Dust has gone on for long enough without it. We need a comemercial, some publicity, something. More people need to know about it instead of relying on the proverbial "word of mouth" method.
2. Incentive. Give us vets and existing players more reasons to log on everyday. While the daily SP bonus is nice and well intended, it is rather miniscual in the grander scheme of things. By no means is this a "we need moar content NOW" rant. More events with worthwhile rewards for vets and new players alike. What am i going to do with a basic suit and some basic nanite injectors if I am already full proto? Catering to both will help and events like the upcoming FW battles are a step in tje right direction. We need more of things like this.
3. Proper tutorials and more stringent Battle Academy requirements. Nothing frustrates a new player more than not knowing what to do and paying the price for it in pub matches once they have graduated. Give them more time in there and give them proper tutorials on each race and each specialty ie vehicles, AV, logis. Let them better decide what will work for them based on their actual playstyle. I can imagine newberries thinking they are God's weapon while in the Academy only to leave and go 1-17 in a standard pub match.
4. Vehicles. Fix them. More people will come back and so will new players.
5. Squad up with new people. Find them and help them along their journey. As a community, it is our responsibility to lessen thier load/grief and help them make the right choices. Who knows? Maybe they will bring more people in to help grow the playerbase. What Dust Uni is doing is awesome. Not only do they take the time to teach newer players but they also release them and give them recommendations as to which corporations would best suit them. Kudos to them for that.
TD;LR: It all starts with a proper ad campaign. If Dust is to flourish, these steps need to be taken imo. |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
281
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:54:00 -
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I think dust is having growing pains nothing more. Well that and people projecting feeling as fact.
Bottom line is that dust has a 10 year dev plan and was announced before open beta of which I started day one and had done my homework on dust 3 months beforehand.
Not bothered or worried. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
6509
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Posted - 2013.09.29 19:57:00 -
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It's because CCP refuses to fix dropships.
You all think you know the answer....but NAY!! Fix the dropship, fix DUST 514
Respec 514
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Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
352
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Posted - 2013.09.29 20:05:00 -
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DUST isn't ready for advertising yet. They need to fill in the missing racial suits/weapons/vehicles, and continue to polish core gameplay and build a full gameplay tutorial level. When that's done I think we'll see a bigger marketing push, and a lot more people joining (and many vets returning to spend all that passive SP). I think we should see most of this within the next 6 months, hopefully with a bunch of fresh content in 1.6. |
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