They would be wise to work from both ends of the spectrum though by giving some sort of veteran reward for those players whom log on weekly, etc. for a period of time and then increase those rewards the longer that consistency is maintained.

The business tactic is great. Getting previous players to return is really great. Offering them items that current players can't get is the issue.

The business tactic is great. Getting previous players to return is really great. Offering them items that current players can't get is the issue.

This is exactly what I meant.

I have no problem with CCP offering cool stuff to get new players and convince vets to return. I do want a higher player count just like everyone else.

My issue was, at the time of my post, there was no way for a current player to acquire these suits. Its all well and good to try to bring up the player count but there should also be a focus on those players that are currently playing the game to keep them. Some of us may not have defected to GTA or FF but there will be plenty of games coming out (and a couple new systems). What good is getting people to come back if the ones here leave?

This is pretty typical for F2P games. This costs the developers nothing (other than normal overhead) and is used often to try to bring player count back up.

They would be wise to work from both ends of the spectrum though by giving some sort of veteran reward for those players whom log on weekly, etc. for a period of time and then increase those rewards the longer that consistency is maintained.

If you're leaving because you missed out on some suits i'm positive will be available in the future...eh.

Again, you are missing the point.

Part 1 - To attract new players and bring back old players, I like this promotion and think it will be effective for those that had left the game in hopes that it would get better down the road.

Part 2 - I personally feel that the event rewards (other than SP) that CCP has given out since Uprising have been a joke. People use maybe 20% of it and they could easily buy them on the market. Back in Beta, I made sure to try to get into Events so that I could get the suits like the Black Eagle. Now, I could care less about the events.

Prior to Mintchips post, what was there that would have led me to believe that vanity suits would be offered as a reward for events in the future?

Already have this in place with sp rewards for those that are dedicated. and the sp is worth more than some gimmick suits that will never win you a competitive match.
Also, they implemented that reward for dedication before this. props to them.

But but... I've never had a Quafe suit before... and I've pretty much played every day since open beta started. What about some veteran rewards??

Actually, if I put my business hat on, they want to see if the current state of the game can keep people who have been away a while (missing a few updates) playing.

Basically, it looks like a "let's see how far we've come" question.

Don't you have your Skinweave set?

Yes, I thought this would be brought up. It is a nice reward and as you stated much more useful than short term burnable bling. However, with that said what I was trying to express is that in my opinion if you want to grow and maintain a user base than it is important to work all ends of the customer base. The daily bonus is one way to do this but you can further enchance this by setting certain longer term timeline goals. The proverbial carrot and all that just a longer term one than the daily bonus.

Yeah, up to 1 & 1/5th ambush matches worth of SP a day is extremely useful.... to new people. To the rest it's just a drop in the ocean when it can take more than a month to bump one skill up one level. I'd rather have the free suits.

Quafe's are for closed beta veterans and even then these quafes are Quafe Assaults, not scouts.

Jimmy gets three cookies and I only get two?

Get over it.

lolwut

If I have a ALT that I have not used in 60 days do I get it still?

I get like 150isk per ambush. I play a ambush every 20mins I can get like 3 per hour. so. 5 hours a day is 15 rounds of 150k. I get about 2,250,000 isk a day and that is 5 weeks. So its 78,750,000 isk in just 35 days pretty much double that for 60 days. Then there is the SP. You get 1,440,000 SP on passive alone! Not to mention the potential of getting another 15k SP a day from just doing Ambush. I get around 2k per game being lazy and 4k if Im good. DO the math. For those who play the game for 60 days you get 3,700,000 SP and around 160,000,000 ISK! I feel like that is about even. Hahaha

I am kinda scared to log into my alts now. What if I am at 59 days and dont get it?

You assume i missed the point. I agreed with the point in a previous post. Regardless of which you yourself point out the sp reward and try to dismiss it (1) somewhat when it reality that's the key to this along with your admission which should have deflated your gripe in underline 2.

Originally i was simply dismissing you for insinuating people that have been here all along might leave because of CCP trying this out, as if they are taking away something from them that they had.

Thought you all would like to know about this little nugget that went out to people who dropped DUST

https://dust514.com/events/welcome-back-to-dust-514/

So, if I didnt play this game for 60 days, I get:
100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits (my personal fav fit)
100 x Quafe Assault Suits

If I did play this game in the past 60 days, I get:
?


How about offering these things to people who slog through your poorly thought out events as well. You know, the same people who have stuck with this game through the constant issues and ham fisted coding since 1.0?

Don't do it

Best advice ever. Have some bacon.... wrapped in a taco.

Best advice ever. Have some bacon.... wrapped in a taco.

Just bacon is fine