DUST Search - WTF CCP - Rewarding people who left the game and f'ing over those that stayed

Canari Elphus wrote:

Reav Hannari wrote:

Nguruthos IX wrote:

If they quit and otherwise were on the fence about never coming back and this nudges them to try 1.5 then yes,
it's new players.

new players + current players = higher player count.

The business tactic is great. Getting previous players to return is really great. Offering them items that current players can't get is the issue.

This is exactly what I meant.

I have no problem with CCP offering cool stuff to get new players and convince vets to return. I do want a higher player count just like everyone else.

My issue was, at the time of my post, there was no way for a current player to acquire these suits. Its all well and good to try to bring up the player count but there should also be a focus on those players that are currently playing the game to keep them. Some of us may not have defected to GTA or FF but there will be plenty of games coming out (and a couple new systems). What good is getting people to come back if the ones here leave?

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Bright Cloud Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 211	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:16:00 - [121] - Quote Why dont we get a bonus apart from the SP for logging in? Like log in at least 7 days in a row and you get 50 copys off a gallente assault suit or something else. Rewards would stack the more days you are logged in.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1469	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:18:00 - [122] - Quote Maybe they should just Fedex us boxes of cocoa puffs and coffee if we play a lot?
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK 160	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:23:00 - [123] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Maybe they should just Fedex us boxes of cocoa puffs and coffee if we play a lot? Ill send you my cocoa puffs if I get your coffee.
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1469	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:24:00 - [124] - Quote Soldner VonKuechle wrote: Ill send you my cocoa puffs if I get your coffee. Done.
Toby Flenderson research lab The Superpowers 59	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:29:00 - [125] - Quote If you're so upset over this then just don't play for 60 days and get the suits. I think you'll find it's not worth it. If this is just a "principle of the matter" type QQ then consider all of the threads about people leaving dust. Wouldn't you rather have more people playing the game than the satisfaction of knowing that people aren't being given small rewards for not playing? The way I see it is they've missed out on 2 months worth of active SP. Given a choice between enjoying the game and getting millions of SP vs. not playing and getting free suits, I choose the SP. I'm completely fine with CCP trying to get more people back in once they've "fixed up" some things that may of made some people leave.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2304	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:30:00 - [126] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Thought you all would like to know about this little nugget that went out to people who dropped DUST https://dust514.com/events/welcome-back-to-dust-514/ So, if I didnt play this game for 60 days, I get: 100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits (my personal fav fit) 100 x Quafe Assault Suits If I did play this game in the past 60 days, I get: ? How about offering these things to people who slog through your poorly thought out events as well. You know, the same people who have stuck with this game through the constant issues and ham fisted coding since 1.0? Admittedly he is right.... events are lack lustre these days, though I could care less about the dropsuits.... gimme AMARR HAV or BPO AMARR SUITS.
XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 331	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:34:00 - [127] - Quote ha ha ha CCP be trollin
Buttercup Chipmint Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 18	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:37:00 - [128] - Quote Free BPO LAV's to all Vets, just sayin! If you already have one then you get a sugar cookie.
Nonya Bizznizz DUST University Ivy League 53	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:44:00 - [129] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: 1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote: CCP Mintchip wrote: I will say that I agree that in the future it would be cool to have more unique rewards for events! however I do need to point out that "Comeback" offers are common and generally considered fair. I am excited that more people may come back to the game and see how far we've come in the last 60 days! I hope some of you feel the same way :) But but... I've never had a Quafe suit before... and I've pretty much played every day since open beta started. What about some veteran rewards?? Quafe's are for closed beta veterans and even then these quafes are Quafe Assaults, not scouts. I was playing since September in the Closed Beta but I didn't get any Quafe Scouts, I was busy with school work during that event :(
Luk Manag of Terror TRE GAFFEL 96	Posted - 2013.09.26 20:59:00 - [130] - Quote Why not give out the BE to wayward mercs? It's obviously OP to have a fast Commando suit, and might give them a chance against all the full proto-squads. You should give them some free boosters as well. Also, 5 million ISK so they can buy the skillbooks and spend that passive SP. Worst case scenario, they try out the Plasma Canon and quit again.

Godin Thekiller Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 919	Posted - 2013.09.26 21:35:00 - [131] - Quote reworked vehicles my ass
Dominus Fatali Nox Aeterna Security 241	Posted - 2013.09.26 22:08:00 - [132] - Quote No. 25 of each, maybe. But 100? No.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3220	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:35:00 - [133] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: 100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits WHAT?!?! They're undermining the future profits of those of us who didn't waste their 10 suits they get from an event. Good thing they didn't touch the Quafe scouts... yet.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 994	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:37:00 - [134] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: JW v Weingarten wrote: lol......What about rewarding veterans that have been active all this time playing this ****** game and giving feedback that gets ignored... Bah, whiny vets are busy trying to destroy the game by ignoring the needs of normal people instead of those who are gods gift to FPS play. Sounds about right.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1333	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:40:00 - [135] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Quafe Assault? Bye, back in 60 days. Same here
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 994	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:42:00 - [136] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Just to allay people's concerns, we will be offering other ways to receive these dropsuits in the future. Neither of these was ever intended to be a one off and we've given out the Black Eagles Dropsuit specifically multiple times in the past. We should have some events that you cannot play unless you have played in the last 60 days. I like different rewards and I would like to see some older players or players that play often get some special items. Keep up the good work because the game has changed in the last 60 days and I like the changes.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3220	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:45:00 - [137] - Quote To put things in a more constructive way- I don't care if returning players are rewarded (even though I personally believe it won't work to bring players back) However, don't give them unique suits that loyal players can't normally get otherwise. 25 free AUR Gallente Scout suits- fine 25 free LE Gallente Scout suits (Black Eagle)- not fine
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 994	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:45:00 - [138] - Quote XOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXOXO XOXOXOXOXOXO wrote: ha ha ha CCP be trollin I have said it many times. CCP is the troll that you should learn from. Here is EVE's latest and here is what happened. CCP you are the Ultimate Troll.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 493	Posted - 2013.09.26 23:51:00 - [139] - Quote who cares. they're throw away items. just because you didn't get any treats doesn't mean the ccp gods don't love you.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4291	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:11:00 - [140] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Thought you all would like to know about this little nugget that went out to people who dropped DUST https://dust514.com/events/welcome-back-to-dust-514/ So, if I didnt play this game for 60 days, I get: 100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits (my personal fav fit) 100 x Quafe Assault Suits If I did play this game in the past 60 days, I get: ? How about offering these things to people who slog through your poorly thought out events as well. You know, the same people who have stuck with this game through the constant issues and ham fisted coding since 1.0? u get bonus SP brah! consecutive days log in son all day errrrrrday lol but ya dunno why ppl upset have yall not seen the playercounts lately? lol id be desperate to get ppl back playing too if i was CCP and GTA: Online nor PS4 out yet lol

Master Jaraiya Ultramarine Corp 938	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:18:00 - [141] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: Reav Hannari wrote: Nguruthos IX wrote: If they quit and otherwise were on the fence about never coming back and this nudges them to try 1.5 then yes, it's new players. new players + current players = higher player count. The business tactic is great. Getting previous players to return is really great. Offering them items that current players can't get is the issue. This is exactly what I meant. I have no problem with CCP offering cool stuff to get new players and convince vets to return. I do want a higher player count just like everyone else. My issue was, at the time of my post, there was no way for a current player to acquire these suits. Its all well and good to try to bring up the player count but there should also be a focus on those players that are currently playing the game to keep them. Some of us may not have defected to GTA or FF but there will be plenty of games coming out (and a couple new systems). What good is getting people to come back if the ones here leave? The really sad part is, the very players that CCP are incentivising to return, will be the first ones who abandon ship -again- for the new systems and games. #disenfranchised
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 400	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:22:00 - [142] - Quote Thumb Green wrote: Skihids wrote: Canari Elphus wrote: Thought you all would like to know about this little nugget that went out to people who dropped DUST https://dust514.com/events/welcome-back-to-dust-514/ So, if I didnt play this game for 60 days, I get: 100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits (my personal fav fit) 100 x Quafe Assault Suits If I did play this game in the past 60 days, I get: ? How about offering these things to people who slog through your poorly thought out events as well. You know, the same people who have stuck with this game through the constant issues and ham fisted coding since 1.0? They don't need to bribe you to come back. However they have been giving you 6k SP a day just for connecting. Instead they're trying to bribe us to not play for 60 days Yeah really. They keep rewarding us for not playing. Are the Chinese seriously this stupid or is the stupidity trickling all the way down fromthe top? Shame on you again Hilmar. You run a shoddy ship. Please, would someone can that jack*ss or force CCP to go public?
General Erick Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 137	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:31:00 - [143] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: 100 x Black Eagle Scout Suits 100 x Quafe Assault Suits Once again, nothing for the Fatbros!
Spirit Charm Bhaalgorn Industries 69	Posted - 2013.09.27 00:59:00 - [144] - Quote Matticus Monk wrote: Spirit Charm wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: Also you can make untold millions of isk, maybe hundreds of millions in that amount of time too. lolwut I get like 150isk per ambush. I play a ambush every 20mins I can get like 3 per hour. so. 5 hours a day is 15 rounds of 150k. I get about 2,250,000 isk a day and that is 5 weeks. So its 78,750,000 isk in just 35 days pretty much double that for 60 days. Then there is the SP. You get 1,440,000 SP on passive alone! Not to mention the potential of getting another 15k SP a day from just doing Ambush. I get around 2k per game being lazy and 4k if Im good. DO the math. For those who play the game for 60 days you get 3,700,000 SP and around 160,000,000 ISK! I feel like that is about even. Hahaha No dude - you forget one key part of your equation. How much time did you spend for your rewards? Now, how much time did the in-actives spend for theirs.....? Uh, huh.... not that damn even. You are right. I would take the extra isk and sp thank you by a long shot. I swear. Some ppl get butt hurt for no reason.
M McManus Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2013.09.27 01:00:00 - [145] - Quote Yeah!!! New players come on back... use those free suits that will get demolished by even rhe the most scrub players with our new and improved aim bot !! "See how far we've come" lololol Mintchip is living in a CCP imaginary bubble... What's new the aim assist that's killing your game or the new 10fps maps... get real ...
Deluxe Edition TeamPlayers EoN. 730	Posted - 2013.09.27 01:00:00 - [146] - Quote Oh wow.. those rewards are territble... doesn't make me want to come back but rather reaffirms that CCP has no idea what the playerbase wants.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1340	Posted - 2013.09.27 02:58:00 - [147] - Quote I think this is brilliant. I'd offer them a 30 day active booster too and have a 3x SP event that runs through the month! I'd time it for the week before the PS4 release and try like hell to have the vehicle rebalance and racial suits and weapons released. AND I'd crack the whip to try and get the overhauled FW system released with the update following the awesome **** above. Coupons for bacon might go over well too
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1340	Posted - 2013.09.27 02:59:00 - [148] - Quote If that didn't move the needle I'd offer an event that rewarded 20 games a week for a month with a RESPEC!!!!
OZAROW WarRavens League of Infamy 732	Posted - 2013.09.27 03:21:00 - [149] - Quote CCP Eterne wrote: Just to allay people's concerns, we will be offering other ways to receive these dropsuits in the future. Neither of these was ever intended to be a one off and we've given out the Black Eagles Dropsuit specifically multiple times in the past. Never even seen the black eagle an I ve missed only 2 days since january, so anytime your ready ;)
Spirit Charm Bhaalgorn Industries 69	Posted - 2013.09.27 04:37:00 - [150] - Quote Do ppl really think this is being ported to PS4? Even tho CCP said they were not.



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