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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:44:00 -
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CharCharOdell wrote:Lol. You're a funny guy. Assault logis are better at defense for obvious reasons, but it all counts for nothing if they have to move. They're extremely slow and they can't recover shields nearly as fast, so they can't skirmish.
Assaults are better for offense. Logi assaults are better for defense.
Also, nobody smart uses all tank modules. Most people will throw cardiac regulators and damage mods on before getting another 66 or 131 HP. I stack up on Armor Plates with my Scrambler! It's really useful, even though I'm slower than a brick :/ |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
136
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:46:00 -
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logis are team support, the idea is that they're supposed to be for helping out the team instead of doing damage so it's good to have alot of defense on them, the problem is that you can put on pretty much any weapon on them so they turn into assault suits. People might argue that there's a difference because assault suits have more than 1 weapon slot, oh so you mean you can be incredibly more effective if you have a mass driver or assault rifle AND and smg? No, I've been running logi since day one of the open beta and the way I see it, if you can't kill someone before you run out of ammo in the clip, you f***ed up, it's not a question of firepower, ANYONE can be killed with a clip of ammo if you're smart about it. If you start questioning oh but what about multiple enemies, assault suits and heavies are meant to handle multiple enemies, you're there to back them up and make sure they stay alive. Several people have recommended that logis should only be able to use sidearms, I for one would not mind this change. Sidearms are still pretty damn powerful and they don't take up alot of room, gives me more space for defense and equipment. The only problem right now is that there's limited ways to apply them effectively which just means we should get more variety in weapons before this is implemented. If that doesn't sound acceptable to you then you're the type to use it for logi assault, if you're only concerned about you're kdr then don't run logistics. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
387
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:52:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:logis are team support, the idea is that they're supposed to be for helping out the team instead of doing damage so it's good to have alot of defense on them, the problem is that you can put on pretty much any weapon on them so they turn into assault suits. People might argue that there's a difference because assault suits have more than 1 weapon slot, oh so you mean you can be incredibly more effective if you have a mass driver or assault rifle AND and smg? No, I've been running logi since day one of the open beta and the way I see it, if you can't kill someone before you run out of ammo in the clip, you f***ed up, it's not a question of firepower, ANYONE can be killed with a clip of ammo if you're smart about it. If you start questioning oh but what about multiple enemies, assault suits and heavies are meant to handle multiple enemies, you're there to back them up and make sure they stay alive. Several people have recommended that logis should only be able to use sidearms, I for one would not mind this change. Sidearms are still pretty damn powerful and they don't take up alot of room, gives me more space for defense and equipment. The only problem right now is that there's limited ways to apply them effectively which just means we should get more variety in weapons before this is implemented. If that doesn't sound acceptable to you then you're the type to use it for logi assault, if you're only concerned about you're kdr then don't run logistics. The problem is, not only do Logis support others, but there are times when they have to support themselves as well. Why do people think that Proto Logis use grenades? If they run out of ammo in their main, they can't switch to a sidearm, and they can no longer support their teammates if they die, so they cook a grenade, and may even mean the difference between life and death. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1846
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:56:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Logi's are such sluts. They like to insert their needle into anyone on their back and spray their warm golden nanites on people's chests. Wait what are you talking about again?
Can't wait to find that just right Logi girl.... yum |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
1127
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Posted - 2013.09.27 21:59:00 -
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ThePrinceOfNigeria wrote:Logi's are such sluts. They like to insert their needle into anyone on their back and spray their warm golden nanites on people's chests. Wait what are you talking about again?
Winning post of the day |
Justin Tymes
Dem Durrty Boyz Public Disorder.
424
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:04:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:logis are team support, the idea is that they're supposed to be for helping out the team instead of doing damage so it's good to have alot of defense on them, the problem is that you can put on pretty much any weapon on them so they turn into assault suits. People might argue that there's a difference because assault suits have more than 1 weapon slot, oh so you mean you can be incredibly more effective if you have a mass driver or assault rifle AND and smg? No, I've been running logi since day one of the open beta and the way I see it, if you can't kill someone before you run out of ammo in the clip, you f***ed up, it's not a question of firepower, ANYONE can be killed with a clip of ammo if you're smart about it. If you start questioning oh but what about multiple enemies, assault suits and heavies are meant to handle multiple enemies, you're there to back them up and make sure they stay alive. Several people have recommended that logis should only be able to use sidearms, I for one would not mind this change. Sidearms are still pretty damn powerful and they don't take up alot of room, gives me more space for defense and equipment. The only problem right now is that there's limited ways to apply them effectively which just means we should get more variety in weapons before this is implemented. If that doesn't sound acceptable to you then you're the type to use it for logi assault, if you're only concerned about you're kdr then don't run logistics.
Enough with the side-arm bullshit no one is buying it. Lasers and MDs are common weapons for a Logi to use, you're rarely ever going to top leader boards with them, especially without side-arms to cover for the horrendous CQC capabilities and inconsistencies of both weapons. |
Jakar Umbra
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
264
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Posted - 2013.09.27 22:15:00 -
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Beginning to think these forums are running out of things to QQ about. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5524
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:46:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Herp, derp, sidearms1 If this ever happens, every other class should have to give up their equipment slot. You want logis to be nothing but pack mules, then everyone should give up their equipment!
Just so you know what kind of logi I am, I have all my equipment (except explosives) to proto level and regularly use triage hives for point defense. Bro, do you even logi? |
SgtDoughnut
Red Star Jr. EoN.
191
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:56:00 -
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KEROSIINI-TERO wrote:Cal logi still has too many slots. Others, not really.
Better way than to strip slots would be to swap the extra PG/CPU to bonus for equipment fitting.
You mean like the GAL logi already has, then what does the Gal Logi get? |
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Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
335
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Posted - 2013.09.27 23:58:00 -
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the real question is
Why do scouts have so many sluts? |
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Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
139
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Posted - 2013.09.28 00:31:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Herp, derp, sidearms1 If this ever happens, every other class should have to give up their equipment slot. You want logis to be nothing but pack mules, then everyone should give up their equipment! Just so you know what kind of logi I am, I have all my equipment (except explosives) to proto level and regularly use triage hives for point defense. Bro, do you even logi? lol fine then, but there's not really a way to make people use logis as intended right now because they just have more overall flexibility and that would be tough to limit. Maybe people will just have to deal with it until we get the ability to build our own suits. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5525
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:01:00 -
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Komodo Jones wrote:Cosgar wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Herp, derp, sidearms1 If this ever happens, every other class should have to give up their equipment slot. You want logis to be nothing but pack mules, then everyone should give up their equipment! Just so you know what kind of logi I am, I have all my equipment (except explosives) to proto level and regularly use triage hives for point defense. Bro, do you even logi? lol fine then, but there's not really a way to make people use logis as intended right now because they just have more overall flexibility and that would be tough to limit. Maybe people will just have to deal with it until we get the ability to build our own suits. We already have the ability to build our suits. People just get butthurt when they see something different from theirs. Welcome to the human condition. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
420
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:20:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:Cosgar wrote:You know there's more to modules than shield extenders and armor plates, right? witch only means the logi can use a mix of Modules and come out at the same health assaults come out of they only stack extenders. Your logic is awsome man... Allow me to help. The current logi skill bonuses are just placeholders because something in code is preventing them from applying bonuses specifically to equipments, for example, nanohive resupply rate. Do not ask me why, but know they are working around it. This is to say, the current logis are not the logis planned for the future. They ARE being actively worked on to fit their proper role. The only combat logi in the future will be the Amarr, because that is what it is intended to be. |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
139
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Posted - 2013.09.28 01:26:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Cosgar wrote:Komodo Jones wrote:Herp, derp, sidearms1 If this ever happens, every other class should have to give up their equipment slot. You want logis to be nothing but pack mules, then everyone should give up their equipment! Just so you know what kind of logi I am, I have all my equipment (except explosives) to proto level and regularly use triage hives for point defense. Bro, do you even logi? lol fine then, but there's not really a way to make people use logis as intended right now because they just have more overall flexibility and that would be tough to limit. Maybe people will just have to deal with it until we get the ability to build our own suits. We already have the ability to build our suits. People just get butthurt when they see something different from theirs. Welcome to the human condition. Nooooo I mean from the base stats, decide how many equipment and mod slots each person has, how much HP, PG and CPU |
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