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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 378
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:15:00 -
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 TL:TR
 I'm saying that I believe Forge Guns have just Broken PC battle
 
 
 
 I know most corps and players that play PC know this and believe in not a problem, to the point that it became the foundation of the strategy in nearly all corps and PC Fight. I'm talking about the Forge Gunners camping on top of a tower or structure, overlooking an objective to one shot killing any and all enemy their eyes lay upon.
 
 Forge Gun camping is now make PC battle easy, unbalance, and annoying to play PC when it take no skill.
 (It's an easy 20/0 game, if you can't do 10/0 game you're a legitimate scrub only good at applying lotion)
 
 Now guys going try to defend why Forge Guns has nothing wrong because of the Fat suit.
 
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 266
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:21:00 -
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 ... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
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        |  Crash Monster
 Snipers Anonymous
 
 1333
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:22:00 -
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 Yeah, sounds like a job for sniperman to me.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 378
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:26:00 -
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 Most likely you guys don't have real PC experience are a long one at that.
 
 
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        |  Shattered Mirage
 native warlords
 
 288
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:29:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
 
 Agreed.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:44:00 -
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 When you go fight a PC vet corp you will have at least 6 to 5 fat guys that has skilled in to Forge Guns, HMG and maybe Dropship.
 At most time you will have 2 fat guys FG on one high point(one Forge Gunners looking at the objective and one looking for Dropship). Most of the time you will have 3 to 4 Forge Gunners on high point taking pot shot.
 
 You will find all vehicle become needles and useless on your team once enemy have taken most high point and you have none.
 
 Most sniper suck in PC and can't do ****
 
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        |  Monkey MAC
 killer taxi company
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:46:00 -
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 Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable!
 Your welcome!
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        |  N1ck Comeau
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 1425
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:46:00 -
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 Forge guns are very efficient at holding down a letter and keeping enemies off their high ground.
 
 90% of Pc battles are decided by who gets the high ground first. or who can keep it. Because they can lock down letters and easily kill infantry.
 
 This is unacceptable behavior in my opinion
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        |  DUST Fiend
 OSG Planetary Operations
 Covert Intervention
 
 6424
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:53:00 -
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 As someone who owns a prototype forge gun.
 
 Forge Guns OP, from Militia to Ishokune
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:54:00 -
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 Shattered Mirage wrote:Long Evity wrote:... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
 Agreed. 
 let me get this you guys are saying you can go 20+/0 in all your game and not die once.
 
 because I can go 30 in nearly all my game with a FG on my alt, and sometime hit 40 to 60 kill game once in awhile.
 I also die one or three time.
 
 so I call bull **** on you guys, if 20/0 is not good
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:55:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:Long Evity wrote:... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
 Agreed. let me get this you guys are saying you can go 20+/0 in all your game and not die once. because I can go 30 in nearly all my game with a FG on my alt and sometime hit 40 to 60 kill game once in awhile. I also die one or three time a game. so I call bull **** on you guys, if 20/0 is not good 
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 21:58:00 -
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 Monkey MAC wrote:Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable! Your welcome!   
 CCP Can't do this because they just going to F it up more
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        |  Monkey MAC
 killer taxi company
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:11:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable! Your welcome!   CCP Can't do this because they just going to F it up more 
 How exactly, people have complained about rooftop (forge)snipers, so they said they would get rid of them, or do you literally want to just stop forges?
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        |  8213
 Grade No.2
 
 285
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:13:00 -
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 Here's a question.
 Somebody do the math,.
 
 With a head shot, what's the most HP a sniper rifle can take? Can't a Forge Gunner just tank his fit to counter snipers? It's not like they need a damage mod or anything. Just shield and armor tank to the 9s.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:18:00 -
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 Monkey MAC wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable! Your welcome!   CCP Can't do this because they just going to F it up more How exactly, people have complained about rooftop (forge)snipers, so they said they would get rid of them, or do you literally want to just stop forges? 
 how many rooftops do we have in Dust? you think ccp going fix it all up. I just see ccp F-in this up more.
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        |  HowDidThatTaste
 Ancient Exiles
 
 3631
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:21:00 -
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 just use more Md you have plenty off them
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        |  The Attorney General
 ZionTCD
 
 1015
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:22:00 -
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 If you don't control the heights in PC you lose.
 
 Very simple, very tactical, and perfectly acceptable.
 
 RND knows this, they structure their game around it.
 
 I don't know why you missed the memo, but there you go.
 
 If you let them stay up high you lose, so don't let them stay up high.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:23:00 -
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 HowDidThatTaste wrote:just use more Md you have plenty off them   
 yes we do, we have 29 MD guys in our corp.
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        |  Monkey MAC
 killer taxi company
 General Tso's Alliance
 
 599
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:25:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable! Your welcome!   CCP Can't do this because they just going to F it up more How exactly, people have complained about rooftop (forge)snipers, so they said they would get rid of them, or do you literally want to just stop forges? how many rooftops do we have in Dust? you think ccp going fix it all up. I just see ccp F-in this up more.  
 They will make higher structures unusable, like in the new maps, until the old maps get phased out towers will hav a fencs to stop you from firing over the side!!
 
 what exactly do you see going wrong?
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 267
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:26:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:Long Evity wrote:... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
 Agreed. let me get this you guys are saying you can go 20+/0 in all your game and not die once. because I can go 30 in nearly all my game with a FG on my alt and sometime hit 40 to 60 kill game once in awhile. I also die one or three time a game. so I call bull **** on you guys, if 20/0 is not good ... lol? Your corp must be worse then I thought if you can let FG be uncontested. And seeing as RND mostly fights bad corps it's no shocker you have a bloated ego.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:31:00 -
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 The Attorney General wrote:If you don't control the heights in PC you lose.
 Very simple, very tactical, and perfectly acceptable.
 
 RND knows this, they structure their game around it.
 
 I don't know why you missed the memo, but there you go.
 
 If you let them stay up high you lose, so don't let them stay up high.
 
 
 LOL, missed the memo GTFO. Youre stating the obvious now my mind is blown to pieces.
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        |  DJINN Marauder
 Ancient Exiles
 
 1383
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:36:00 -
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 Yep.. FG camping roofs are ******. 1 forge holds a point by himself. No gungame required...
 
 But every corp needs to do it to counter the enemy in pc...
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:42:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Shattered Mirage wrote:Long Evity wrote:... or you guys suck? Do you know how hard it is to put down maybe 400,000 sp into a decent sniper and get rid of him? and 20/0? That's terrible.
 FG also counters FG. I counter FG rooftop campers all the time. a DS from the rear usually does the trick too is he's concentrating on objectives or player heavy areas.
 
 You're bad and you and your corp should feel bad if a FG goes 20/0
 Agreed. let me get this you guys are saying you can go 20+/0 in all your game and not die once. because I can go 30 in nearly all my game with a FG on my alt and sometime hit 40 to 60 kill game once in awhile. I also die one or three time a game. so I call bull **** on you guys, if 20/0 is not good ... lol? Your corp must be worse then I thought if you can let FG be uncontested. And seeing as RND mostly fights bad corps it's no shocker you have a bloated ego.  
 Don't know why I feel that you envy my corp so bad that you be hating... wait you're so jealous of us.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:50:00 -
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 DJINN Marauder wrote:Yep.. FG camping roofs are ******. 1 forge holds a point by himself. No gungame required... 
 But every corp needs to do it to counter the enemy in pc...
 
 pc battle is more of a kill joy now once everyone do it every game, just like disneyland.
 
 It the one to two shot kill that more no skill player start doing it to keep up now.
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 268
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:52:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:
 Don't know why I feel that you envy my corp so bad that you be hating... wait you're so jealous of us.
 It's SoTa PoP - and why would I be jealous of RND? What's to be jealous of? You guys were barely anything in PC until you blued up EoN lol
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 22:54:00 -
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 Monkey MAC wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Knee 101 is fixing this issue by making rooftops uncampable! Your welcome!   CCP Can't do this because they just going to F it up more How exactly, people have complained about rooftop (forge)snipers, so they said they would get rid of them, or do you literally want to just stop forges? how many rooftops do we have in Dust? you think ccp going fix it all up. I just see ccp F-in this up more.  They will make higher structures unusable, like in the new maps, until the old maps get phased out towers will hav a fencs to stop you from firing over the side!! what exactly do you see going wrong? 
 don't know how ccp going F this up, just know something going be F up like every time ccp do something.
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        |  Aqua-Regia
 Ahrendee Mercenaries
 EoN.
 
 379
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 23:14:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:
 Don't know why I feel that you envy my corp so bad that you be hating... wait you're so jealous of us.
 It's SoTa PoP - and why would I be jealous of RND? What's to be jealous of? You guys were barely anything in PC until you blued up EoN lol 
 Your must be jealous of something, even reading this defend self post now make me think you're even more jealous than before. Maybe I reading it wrong, let me try reading it once more and try picturing a cool head guy talking on a boat in cuba.
 
 nope can't see it, still must be doing it wrong.
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 268
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 23:28:00 -
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 Aqua-Regia wrote:Long Evity wrote:Aqua-Regia wrote:
 Don't know why I feel that you envy my corp so bad that you be hating... wait you're so jealous of us.
 It's SoTa PoP - and why would I be jealous of RND? What's to be jealous of? You guys were barely anything in PC until you blued up EoN lol Your must be jealous of something, even reading this defend self post now make me think you're even more jealous than before. Maybe I reading it wrong, let me try reading it once more and try picturing a cool head guy talking on a boat in cuba. nope can't see it, still must be doing it wrong.  You do a lot of things wrong - don't worry. You can't even get a FG off a roof.
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        |  Xocoyol Zaraoul
 Superior Genetics
 
 1086
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.20 23:42:00 -
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 8213 wrote:Can't a Forge Gunner just tank his fit to counter snipers? A Proto Tactical can get a pair of headshots before a heavy can even move, and with the damage bonus that Sniper Rails have against armor you can kill most fits, honestly, especially with damage mods. I do this regularly whenever someone in a pub match starts tower camping...
 
 But yeah, if you really went "all out" and focused on pure proto survivability, avoiding the usual damage mods that forge gunners have, you should be able to tank sniper fire long enough to run to cover as long as you only peak... Otherwise a sniper with a proto tactical will fire two into your head and then (if need be, which is rarely) a third into your running back.
 
 The Kali proto tactical is godlike against heavies when used properly, I love it.
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        |  Bears Beets
 Subdreddit
 Test Alliance Please Ignore
 
 931
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.21 10:08:00 -
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 As a Forge Gunning roof camping scumbag, all it takes is one good sniper to ruin my day. Seriously.
 Even if you don't kill me, you annoy me enough to keep me away from the edges for long and make me much less effective.
 
 Also, why are people whining about the enemy having high ground? That's a tactic that has gone back as far as there has been war.
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