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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:28:00 -
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Dunk Mujunk wrote:Void Echo wrote:the ratio of ******** infantry to normal infantry is 100000000000000000/1 Lol, while your numbers are exaggerated (just a bit) I will give you there are way more ****** infantry than there are ****** tankers, but only cause there is way more infantry than tankers. So I offer a compromise. Over the next week or so I will do my best to help blue tanks, so long as they are at least attempting to be productive and letting me get off the bumper if they hit me (it happens, I know, just let me get off). All I ask is that you blue tanks at least look at who all is on your team, and if it looks like you have a strong squad or two, give them a chance to work on some of the supply depots. Those things can be crucial. And if you hit someone, let them get off your bumper (unless you got a bunch of swarms launched and heading your way, in that case I do understand. It's getting pushed forward as tanks are attacking that is really irking foot soldiers). Unfortunately I can only speak for myself on this compromise. Hopefully any infantry players reading this thread will follow suit. We can start there and see what happens. If we can get some trust built back up between tanks and foots and get us all working together, we could do some amazing stuff. if there were more ppl like you who would actually help the tank, then yeah we would trust you guys with the supply depots and we would support our teams in confidence that our tank crews are helping us help the team. But, almost no one is willing to do this, they would rather sit in our tanks and refuse to leave, they are doing the oppisite of being usefull, they are cuasing us to loose our tank or forcing us to keep our rail out when all the enemys decided to move to the city. Exmaples of these ppl:
AAGMUNDR wrote:I refuse! It's comfy in there with the air conditioning, and the cushy seats..., and the armor and shields equal to 10+ times that of my scout suit. and
Doyle Reese wrote:Oh :(. I thought we were gonna make out on a cliff, isn't that how those movies go?
So no, screw you guys. We will NOT work with you guys under ANY circumstances cuz you guys are a canser to us, our own team mates. Our team is actively trying to get us killed! If there were more ppl like you we could all benifit but its liteerally you vs everyone else. You are litterally the single, lonesome and most unique gunner that ive ever heard about wanting to help tanks in a way that it would be mutually benifiscial. Ever. This is the worst community ive ever been apart of ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------All that above the line is suppused to be a qoute^ from this thread: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=111090&find=unread Healthy relationship? |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1127
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:31:00 -
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When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
915
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:33:00 -
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i hate blueberries. i swear, everytime i put on good turrets, i get a ****** in my tank who thinks he can kill the mcc. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1302
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:34:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? see bottom paragraph |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
915
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks?
The second tanks existed. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2128
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:59:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas.
Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY?
Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2128
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:01:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? see bottom paragraph It's also the worst community, apart from a select few, that I have ever been a part of and the DKS community were dedicated trolls, starchy duelists, and overly enthusiastic RPers.
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
761
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way.
This is exactly what I was going to put. |
Criteria Shipment
Baynaer Space Command The Ditanian Alliance
453
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:07:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When will hate relationships stop? Fixed
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2131
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:09:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. This is exactly what I was going to put. Its true.
I have spend 9 months being infantry and only a grand total of 2 weeks being a dedicated tanker and in that time I have gotten rather good, shameless self endorsement, and rather a lot of enjoyment out of it. Yet infantry never seem to be where they need to be, they never target AV (which to them are easy kills), they never cap points while I am overwatch on the target, they ***** and moan when I take our AV depots.... I mean supply depots, they never besides my squad AV a target tank. |
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Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1131
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:09:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Read more Mike
Fixed |
Avallo Kantor
Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire
173
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:10:00 -
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Well then, why not use team chat, form squads etc?
I mean, what exactly do you want run and gun infantry to do to support you? Often AV engages from ranges outside of our own, so it's hard to reach them. Aside from that, what exactly does an infantry do to support a tank? |
Michael Arck
Anubis Prime Syndicate
1131
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:15:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way.
LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go.
Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2131
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:21:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field.
Nah in comvat a tanker can kiss his effective combat ime good bye very quickly. Enemy infantry switches of AV, our teams however never capitalise on this at all, and seem to flounder when enemy AV hits the field.
As for infantry we cannot be constantly dealing with you guys, you have all the tool, I know since I was one of you, since we have so many heavy hitting threats on the field.
Admittedly we are heavily armoured and slow moving assets, LAV, quick moving, lightly armoured asset should be moving around us.
As for that last comment. You/we pretty much all are. All we care about is WP gains, SP, and KDR, not winning or loosing. One reason Im so hesitant to play Dust is because teams never seem to want to win. Its always one group tries, either winning, or being destroyed, with the rest of the team hanging back for easy kills. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1304
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:24:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field.
You made some wrong accusations here. Tanks do not think your "just in it for WP assists". Tanks think your in it for the assist as a minor reward, if you were in it to be productive we would be glad to share our kills and WP with you, we would LOVE that. But we know infaintry are going to AFK and refuse to leave our tanks for us to recall. So we die.
Yes we crush lavs in our way because we need to get out of the way of av! or your just in our way. Your right, we do not respect you guys, we absolutly hate you for getting our tanks blown up so directly. Im glad you and your squad target the AV, but most ppl do not, they do NOT go out of their way to kill the AV over there, they dont care about us and we cant deal with them over there. So they cause us to get blown up indirectly as well. So yeah. Forgive us for our lesser evil of destroying your lavs and dropsuits, cuz yal cost us tanks. Btw, we KNOW were not gods on the feild, not even close |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2131
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:26:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field. You made some wrong accusations here. Tanks do not think your "just in it for WP assists". Tanks think your in it for the assist as a minor reward, if you were in it to be productive we would be glad to share our kills and WP with you, we would LOVE that. But we know infaintry are going to AFK and refuse to leave our tanks for us to recall. So we die. Yes we crush lavs in our way because we need to get out of the way of av! or your just in our way. Your right, we do not respect you guys, we absolutly hate you for getting our tanks blown up so directly. Im glad you and your squad target the AV, but most ppl do not, they do NOT go out of their way to kill the AV over there, they dont care about us and we cant deal with them over there. So they cause us to get blown up indirectly as well. So yeah. Forgive us for our lesser evil of destroying your lavs and dropsuits, cuz yal cost us tanks. Btw, we KNOW were not gods on the feild, not even close Million ISK tanks mind you. |
Void Echo
Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium
1441
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:35:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks?
since infantry decided to **** over every vehicle pilot, basically in the very beginning. |
Shattered Mirage
native warlords
281
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:40:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field. You made some wrong accusations here. Tanks do not think your "just in it for WP assists". Tanks think your in it for the assist as a minor reward, if you were in it to be productive we would be glad to share our kills and WP with you, we would LOVE that. But we know infaintry are going to AFK and refuse to leave our tanks for us to recall. So we die. Yes we crush lavs in our way because we need to get out of the way of av! or your just in our way. Your right, we do not respect you guys, we absolutly hate you for getting our tanks blown up so directly. Im glad you and your squad target the AV, but most ppl do not, they do NOT go out of their way to kill the AV over there, they dont care about us and we cant deal with them over there. So they cause us to get blown up indirectly as well. So yeah. Forgive us for our lesser evil of destroying your lavs and dropsuits, cuz yal cost us tanks. Btw, we KNOW were not gods on the feild, not even close
I don't trust friendly LAVs anymore.... bastards keep trying to block my path away from the AV and crash into me while they're at it. |
echo47
Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic
74
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:43:00 -
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This post sure helps your cause. It definitly makes me want to risk my clone to help you. |
Magnus Amadeuss
DUST University Ivy League
50
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:45:00 -
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Hey every time I see a friendly tank on the field trying to help out the front lines, I more or less glue myself to the tank with a repper, and if they like to play nice, I will jump in and man turrets whenever there is no threat to the tank itself.
I think the reason most people don't is you get no WP for repping a tank so whats the point? I mean if I sit there and rep a tank while they destroy another tank (which most likely would have killed the friendly tank) I get nothing, of course WP have little value to me most of the time so I just try to help out the team.
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DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1325
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:50:00 -
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If only more tankers refused to work with their blueberries, then we would have a lot less tanks in pubs.
Sounds kinda fun though, I may just slap on some free militia suit on an alt I don;t care about, go find the nearest tank, and refuse to leave so they can't recall and also shoot the guns wildly at no particular object. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1308
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:51:00 -
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echo47 wrote:This post sure helps your cause. It definitly makes me want to risk my clone to help you.
im not trying to convince ppl to do anything. just saying it like it is |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
312
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:52:00 -
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It bugs me to no end that if theres a friendly tank on the field they wont let me support it. I understand why they dont, but I wouldnt mind getting in your tank with my reppers and shotgun ready to kill swarmers or AV naders and rep the tank afterwards. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1308
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:52:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:If only more tankers refused to work with their blueberries, then we would have a lot less tanks in pubs.
Sounds kinda fun though, I may just slap on some free militia suit on an alt I don;t care about, go find the nearest tank, and refuse to leave so they can't recall and also shoot the guns wildly at no particular object.
lol. this is why dust is dead. stuff like this^ |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1308
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:53:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:It bugs me to no end that if theres a friendly tank on the field they wont let me support it. I understand why they dont, but I wouldnt mind getting in your tank with my reppers and shotgun ready to kill swarmers or AV naders and rep the tank afterwards. tankers would also love this, its mutually benifical but they dont know your trying to be productive |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
313
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Posted - 2013.09.20 03:03:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:It bugs me to no end that if theres a friendly tank on the field they wont let me support it. I understand why they dont, but I wouldnt mind getting in your tank with my reppers and shotgun ready to kill swarmers or AV naders and rep the tank afterwards. tankers would also love this, its mutually benifical but they dont know your trying to be productive
I know, I also run tanks. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1310
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Posted - 2013.09.20 03:05:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:Exmaple Core wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:It bugs me to no end that if theres a friendly tank on the field they wont let me support it. I understand why they dont, but I wouldnt mind getting in your tank with my reppers and shotgun ready to kill swarmers or AV naders and rep the tank afterwards. tankers would also love this, its mutually benifical but they dont know your trying to be productive I know, I also run tanks. lolol x) had me fooled with that kind of comment. Welcome bro :) |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1251
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Posted - 2013.09.20 03:08:00 -
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One of my fondest moments in uprising is when I jumped into a shield tank as he was headed towards an objective, while we're going a swarmer pops up and hits the tank so I immediately jump out and run him down turned out he had an uplink nearby so I take that out too, along with the unlucky forge bastard that spawned there as I was mass driving it, ran back to the tanker that had decided to stay there and jumped up and down twice to tell him that it was clear but an assault guy with an AR had snuck up behind me and put rounds in my back I turn around with half sheilds fully expecting to die before I kick the bucket though the tanker puts four rounds out and melts the dude, I jump in the tank and we continue the match.
After the match I get a mail that says: "Thanks for the help. Glad I could repay the favor." This is truly something that made me smile.
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Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1310
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Posted - 2013.09.20 03:11:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:One of my fondest moments in uprising is when I jumped into a shield tank as he was headed towards an objective, while we're going a swarmer pops up and hits the tank so I immediately jump out and run him down turned out he had an uplink nearby so I take that out too, along with the unlucky forge bastard that spawned there as I was mass driving it, ran back to the tanker that had decided to stay there and jumped up and down twice to tell him that it was clear but an assault guy with an AR had snuck up behind me and put rounds in my back I turn around with half sheilds fully expecting to die before I kick the bucket though the tanker puts four rounds out and melts the dude, I jump in the tank and we continue the match. After the match I get a mail that says: "Thanks for the help. Glad I could repay the favor." This is truly something that made me smile.
that... is awsome. I wish stuff like this happened to everyone :/ |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
105
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Posted - 2013.09.20 03:13:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:If only more tankers refused to work with their blueberries, then we would have a lot less tanks in pubs.
Sounds kinda fun though, I may just slap on some free militia suit on an alt I don;t care about, go find the nearest tank, and refuse to leave so they can't recall and also shoot the guns wildly at no particular object.
And your the reason why 9%% of tankers wont leave a extra turret on
GG
here i made you a special hat now go sit in the corner
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