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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:59:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas.
Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY?
Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:01:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? see bottom paragraph It's also the worst community, apart from a select few, that I have ever been a part of and the DKS community were dedicated trolls, starchy duelists, and overly enthusiastic RPers.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:09:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. This is exactly what I was going to put. Its true.
I have spend 9 months being infantry and only a grand total of 2 weeks being a dedicated tanker and in that time I have gotten rather good, shameless self endorsement, and rather a lot of enjoyment out of it. Yet infantry never seem to be where they need to be, they never target AV (which to them are easy kills), they never cap points while I am overwatch on the target, they ***** and moan when I take our AV depots.... I mean supply depots, they never besides my squad AV a target tank. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:21:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field.
Nah in comvat a tanker can kiss his effective combat ime good bye very quickly. Enemy infantry switches of AV, our teams however never capitalise on this at all, and seem to flounder when enemy AV hits the field.
As for infantry we cannot be constantly dealing with you guys, you have all the tool, I know since I was one of you, since we have so many heavy hitting threats on the field.
Admittedly we are heavily armoured and slow moving assets, LAV, quick moving, lightly armoured asset should be moving around us.
As for that last comment. You/we pretty much all are. All we care about is WP gains, SP, and KDR, not winning or loosing. One reason Im so hesitant to play Dust is because teams never seem to want to win. Its always one group tries, either winning, or being destroyed, with the rest of the team hanging back for easy kills. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:26:00 -
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Exmaple Core wrote:Michael Arck wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. LOL True sometimes I think you're just crazy. Battles I've been in, mercs support their tanks. They will chase down swarm launchers and take out Forge gunners so I'm not sure what you're talking about. The truth is, the tank holds no respect for the infantry. I jump in a tank, he automatically thinks I'm just in it for WP assists. If I'm driving my LAV, the tank will just mow over me without any regard. And I didn't even see the tank. If I turn the corner and there's a tank moving in my direction, he will just continually drive forward while I'm stuck in some jerk animation as I try my best to get away from the tank. Which is really impossible until the tank decides to let me go. Someone has to stop the foolishness for productivity. Tank guys gotta stop looking at infantry as just morons who flail about on the field and thinking they're some kinda god on the field. You made some wrong accusations here. Tanks do not think your "just in it for WP assists". Tanks think your in it for the assist as a minor reward, if you were in it to be productive we would be glad to share our kills and WP with you, we would LOVE that. But we know infaintry are going to AFK and refuse to leave our tanks for us to recall. So we die. Yes we crush lavs in our way because we need to get out of the way of av! or your just in our way. Your right, we do not respect you guys, we absolutly hate you for getting our tanks blown up so directly. Im glad you and your squad target the AV, but most ppl do not, they do NOT go out of their way to kill the AV over there, they dont care about us and we cant deal with them over there. So they cause us to get blown up indirectly as well. So yeah. Forgive us for our lesser evil of destroying your lavs and dropsuits, cuz yal cost us tanks. Btw, we KNOW were not gods on the feild, not even close Million ISK tanks mind you. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:44:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:It bugs me to no end that if theres a friendly tank on the field they wont let me support it. I understand why they dont, but I wouldnt mind getting in your tank with my reppers and shotgun ready to kill swarmers or AV naders and rep the tank afterwards. Its primarily that I cannot talk to you to tell you to get out, nor can I tell you where the AV is so you can destroy it/ By the time a gunner wises up to it im most likely already dead. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:47:00 -
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Rei Shepard wrote:True Adamance wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When Infantry failed to realise one of their greatest assets on the field is a friendly Madrugar. Sure they curse enemy Maddies like the plague when they roll around, yet the fail to protect, defend, or ever support their allied tanks especially in urban areas. Now tanks never enter urban areas, they never care about allied infantry being butchered when they could help, they never care about objectives. WHY? Because as Infantry we (and I was one of you) let the ******* tanks down in almost every conceivable way. Oh i didnt know us infantry came as a bonus with the purchase of your expensive tank...., we are all Mercs i have no loyalty to give on the field other then myself...and i sure as hell will not jump inbetween a smoking tank and 6 enemy infantry to save someone i dont know, i will however use your smoking tank to my advantage and flank the sh*tz out of these guys. You keeping your tank after i am done with those guys is just a bonus. PS: if it was the otherway around and you see 6 guys going to my location with me not knowing, you would try to kill them all, me staying alive would be a bonus then, but not a requirement. That's fine just know that with the friendly tank gone the enemy is far more likely to bring in their own. I'm sure you have had battles where the enemy team has called In tanks late game and steam rolled you.
Because by that time I don't care enough to call another tank in.
I have been where you were as an infantry man I know we have our own peculiar traits, but the team with the tank normally has a huge advantage over the other. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 12:50:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:I love tanks when they actually help their infantry and work together with us, its the friendly tanks that just drive on looking for more kills that drive me insane. Repping up a friendly armor tank and hopping in and out of his guns to provide a small infantry screen for him as he drives around. Get to an objective and I hop out and start hacking it, I start getting shot at and hop out hoping the tank can back me up looking around hes halfway across the map trying to blow up a CRU. Seriously you need to stick with your inantry as much as we need to stick with you. Will you work with us as well? You may think you are doing it now..... you probably aren't. All we ask is that you target AV and other tanks when the pop up on the map if you don't currently have a target..... |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:15:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:You Know if tankers actualy helped the team rather than steam rolled around with only their own K/D ratio in mind, people might respect tankers more. I Fing hate tankers, they arnt team players, they dont care about winning, they dont want anyone in their tank because they "belive" pasengers are just after kill assist WPs, and even if they are it dosent take away from the drivers kills so why do you care.
So I hope AV stays OP forever and you tankers get driven into extinction you ungrateful twits! You're damn right that vehicle operators main concern is their K/DR, a decent fit tank or dropship cost upwards of 500k per vehicle, our first and foremost concern is keeping our vehicle alive, everything else is secondary. And you say that tanks just steamroll round? In my experience both on the ground and in vehicles the infantry just end up in one huge messy firefight while the tank is the only thing actually hitting the objective. And in a game with such lethal AV movement is the key to survival, sit still and AV will be brought to bear on you, they will trap and them annihilate you. And here's another reason we vehicle users loathe bluedots in our vehicles, not only do they sit there being rather ineffective 90% of the time! they stop you recalling your vehicles and they steal them. Every single veteran vehicle user will have at least 1 story of where they jumped out of the vehicle/pilots seat and some enterprising blueberry jumped in and promptly suicided the vehicle through sheer incompetence, not giving a **** about the vehicle user they just cost half a million ISK. There are a lot of times where I have been the only player on a objective and a couple where I have hopped out of my tank to take it since no allies seemed to have the intention of doing so.
As for the vehicle steal.... this wouldn't happen if blue dots were prevented from jumping into drivers seat (but green dots could) too many times some idiot will get into my seat as I drop an uplink behind my tank, drive off, get blown up, and now any spawners on the uplink are camped and killed. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 13:42:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:True Adamance wrote:gbghg wrote:Beck Weathers wrote:You Know if tankers actualy helped the team rather than steam rolled around with only their own K/D ratio in mind, people might respect tankers more. I Fing hate tankers, they arnt team players, they dont care about winning, they dont want anyone in their tank because they "belive" pasengers are just after kill assist WPs, and even if they are it dosent take away from the drivers kills so why do you care.
So I hope AV stays OP forever and you tankers get driven into extinction you ungrateful twits! You're damn right that vehicle operators main concern is their K/DR, a decent fit tank or dropship cost upwards of 500k per vehicle, our first and foremost concern is keeping our vehicle alive, everything else is secondary. And you say that tanks just steamroll round? In my experience both on the ground and in vehicles the infantry just end up in one huge messy firefight while the tank is the only thing actually hitting the objective. And in a game with such lethal AV movement is the key to survival, sit still and AV will be brought to bear on you, they will trap and them annihilate you. And here's another reason we vehicle users loathe bluedots in our vehicles, not only do they sit there being rather ineffective 90% of the time! they stop you recalling your vehicles and they steal them. Every single veteran vehicle user will have at least 1 story of where they jumped out of the vehicle/pilots seat and some enterprising blueberry jumped in and promptly suicided the vehicle through sheer incompetence, not giving a **** about the vehicle user they just cost half a million ISK. There are a lot of times where I have been the only player on a objective and a couple where I have hopped out of my tank to take it since no allies seemed to have the intention of doing so. Aaaaarrrrrgggggg NEVER and I do mean never get out of your hav . Trust me if you get out and get killed theres nothing worse than blowing up your own tank. Or having it stollen . At that point if the match who cares. I could lose my 500k Soma and it would wreck my team and they would ***** and moan, it would be their own damn fault.
I really should make and effort one of these days to provide and entire enemy team with HAV so that they can steal them and show a laxy lack lustre team what HAV fear really is. |
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 20:25:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Michael Arck wrote:When did this hate relationship develop between troops and tanks? When tankers decided they should be one man machines of death, and not have to interact with anyone other than more tankers, despite playing a social centric game! Uh have you not seen all the QQ about tanks being flimsy as ****. We aren't one man death machines now unless we are either one of two things
Good- Most tankers in this game. Void Echo, Charlotte O'dell, Pegasus Prime, Exmaple Core, St Evilsbitch and many more.
Lucky- Players like me who just happen to turn up on the six of an enemy Madrugar in their ****** Soma.
If we were 1 man death machines everyone would be a tanker.
Admittedly and I hope Aero will pop in to back me up.... I wont even move until the infantry tells me what he scenario Im about to drive into is like, I need to know where the enemy tanks are, infantry are, what installations are there. When I do I'll move in, do what I can and try to sit their until my team can win the fight.... I normally die doing this. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2013.09.20 22:25:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:I hate blueberry tanks that ram you and crap like that it gets really annoying it can even cost you a tank when your getting hit by AV. I played Tank wrestling with a bulk standard MLT Soma in my Pimped out Soma.... we both died badly..... |
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