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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2690
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:22:00 -
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Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap!
The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1622
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:25:00 -
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nice |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
383
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:28:00 -
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*yawn* |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
673
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:31:00 -
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Is there a minimum SP you have to earn before being eligible? I don't want to get thrust into a game half over, play it, only to find out my 1,000 WP was doubled instead of the 2,000 I could have had doubled.
I just realizied as I wrote this that the SP gain is going to be negligible if it's only based on WP earned. Oh well.
7 victories, at 2,000 WP each and I get 14,000 more SP at the end of the week...woopdeedoo...
If it's only WP doubled, it should be every victory. At least then there'd be a reason to actually win games. |
Silas Swakhammer
GamersForChrist Orion Empire
160
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Posted - 2013.09.18 01:52:00 -
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This is a pretty cool event, even if the reward is small. |
S Park Finner
DUST University Ivy League
284
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:01:00 -
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Silas Swakhammer wrote:This is a pretty cool event, even if the reward is small. This! The event is a little thing but it's a nice one and you don't have to do anything but play a good game to get a nice bump. Good job CCP!
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Logi Bro
Greatness Achieved Through Training EoN.
2228
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:12:00 -
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This shouldn't be an event, people should always get at least this reward for winning.
But still cool, nevertheless. |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1311
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:19:00 -
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This concept, along with triple SP, should be the norm. |
Emo Ghost
Pradox One
4
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:44:00 -
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Prepare for stacked matchs. |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence. EoN.
364
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:44:00 -
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lol u call this an event? wooow |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
795
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Posted - 2013.09.18 02:55:00 -
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I like it much better than last event, where you inadvertently rewarded afkers more. I made shyte bonus from that because I actually played and got 5 - 7k per match, but only received bonus on the first 3000 per match. |
Badgerr Rager
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
48
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:08:00 -
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Pointless Sp giving to us as it is not even much ! say you make 5,000Sp before active booster you make 10,000 sp= 15,000SP bonus for ONE day. Now that is if you are luck to get this on your first match when loggin in and winning. Im guessing for this match most people will get a bonus of about 50-70kSp extra next week. WOOOPY, when is the double SP again ? |
Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
680
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:21:00 -
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Badgerr Rager wrote:Pointless Sp giving to us as it is not even much ! say you make 5,000Sp before active booster you make 10,000 sp= 15,000SP bonus for ONE day. Now that is if you are luck to get this on your first match when loggin in and winning. Im guessing for this match most people will get a bonus of about 50-70kSp extra next week. WOOOPY, when is the double SP again ?
It only applies to WP earned in a match, not total SP. If someone makes 70,000 SP from this event (in its current form) please mail me because I'd love to know how you're making 10,000 WP in a match. My record is 4700. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
3521
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Posted - 2013.09.18 03:22:00 -
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First win of the day bonus?
Y'know, this might be better used, to a lesser extent, in the general game. Rather than have the guy log on and back off, have them try out a match. Might do so good that they decide to stick around for a few more.
Also, don't take that as negative feedback. Looks great, I just think it would look better as a daily thing rather than a one-off event. |
Exmaple Core
Ancient Exiles
1282
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:07:00 -
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this is a cool idea and all, i like it, but its the most insignificant reward attainable in the history of prizes anyway. Its not much better than winning nothing |
Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
383
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:21:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:First win of the day bonus?
Y'know, this might be better used, to a lesser extent, in the general game. Rather than have the guy log on and back off, have them try out a match. Might do so good that they decide to stick around for a few more.
Also, don't take that as negative feedback. Looks great, I just think it would look better as a daily thing rather than a one-off event.
This guy is using his brain. +1 |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Cult of War
219
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Posted - 2013.09.18 04:26:00 -
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general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff" |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
196
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Posted - 2013.09.18 05:09:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff"
Honestly I couldn't care less about how good the free stuff is. I'm still waiting for CCP to talk to the community about what we want from an event. It'd be a tremendous step forward for them incorporate our feedback from any of the others, as that is something they are yet to do.
As usual I won't be logging in for the duration of this event, or any event that is not designed with community input. |
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
782
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Posted - 2013.09.18 05:12:00 -
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Can we assume that this doesn't get exploited by like two opposing teams ending up hacking-rehacking something over and over boosting their WP only to then in the end get that doubled... |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2081
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Posted - 2013.09.18 05:21:00 -
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Awarded at the end of the week? I mean, for most people who get like 1000 WP a match, that's 7000 WP at the end of the week. Probably wouldn't notice it over the normal passive gain, but cool nonetheless. |
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Asirius Medaius
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
384
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Posted - 2013.09.18 05:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Awarded at the end of the week? I mean, for most people who get like 1000 WP a match, that's 7000 WP at the end of the week. Probably wouldn't notice it over the normal passive gain, but cool nonetheless.
Assuming a person has the potential to reach 2000 Warpoints in the match, that's about 7000 total bonus per day (if they get 5000 SP for a skirmish match before the added WP) for 7 days... Even if they decide to go "all out" and achieve a score like that, they would be getting 49,000 WP, which, last time I checked, just barely pays for really any skill even at the "level 1". |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
232
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Posted - 2013.09.18 06:11:00 -
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Nice feature. All drops of SP count for casual players ;-) |
Croned
The Generals EoN.
379
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Posted - 2013.09.18 06:44:00 -
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This really should be the norm alongside the daily login bonus. Not only will you have incentive to log in, but you'll also want to play and win a game. And hey, since you won, you'll want to play another. |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
744
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Posted - 2013.09.18 06:49:00 -
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Event only? Is this some kind of new test? Because I think it should always be like this, not only during events. |
Chances Ghost
Inf4m0us
913
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Posted - 2013.09.18 06:49:00 -
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this is probably a test to see if the process can be abused before its migrated to a permanant thing.
it looks like it could also test to see if it impacts their daily activity numbers.
and weather they would need to tweek the amount of SP gained this way before its migrated to permanant.
basically if you want this to be a thing, praise it, play it, and enjoy it. an it may just be a thing we see permanantly added. |
D34NOS MAZDA
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
143
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Posted - 2013.09.18 07:16:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:Badgerr Rager wrote:Pointless Sp giving to us as it is not even much ! say you make 5,000Sp before active booster you make 10,000 sp= 15,000SP bonus for ONE day. Now that is if you are luck to get this on your first match when loggin in and winning. Im guessing for this match most people will get a bonus of about 50-70kSp extra next week. WOOOPY, when is the double SP again ? It only applies to WP earned in a match, not total SP. If someone makes 70,000 SP from this event (in its current form) please mail me because I'd love to know how you're making 10,000 WP in a match. My record is 4700.
I would like to know this as well.
The most I have ever got was 5002wp and that was hard. Full squad, Squad leader, 7 or 8 orbitals, countless kills and so many tank kills I was just laughing. |
Banning Hammer
Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire
1467
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Posted - 2013.09.18 07:30:00 -
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What about a SP bonus every time Scotty puts you against a Pubstomping squad ? A bit like Compensation for being prey, you may even get people to enjoy being Pubstorm |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
48
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Posted - 2013.09.18 07:38:00 -
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So a reward that only rewards those that are already doing quite well?
Yep that makes sense......
Everyone is going full on logi this week I am sure. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
23
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Posted - 2013.09.18 08:47:00 -
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Lol and the dumbass events keep on coming, just give us the double sp event at least thats usefull for every player not a few. You guys at ccp say you listen to feedback, wel if you realy did these dumb events wouldnt be created. Just stop doing what you want yourself, cus they are stupid events. Time to listen to players. |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
59
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Posted - 2013.09.18 08:55:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:Can we assume that this doesn't get exploited by like two opposing teams ending up hacking-rehacking something over and over boosting their WP only to then in the end get that doubled...
Only the winning team gets the bonus, and only those mercs on that team whose first win of the day it is. I doubt anyone will bother trying to exploit it. We're all already trying to earn as many WP per match as we can right?
Thanks for the extra SP CCP, it's not much but as they say, don't look a gift horse in the mouth |
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
745
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:02:00 -
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Parson Atreides wrote:Badgerr Rager wrote:Pointless Sp giving to us as it is not even much ! say you make 5,000Sp before active booster you make 10,000 sp= 15,000SP bonus for ONE day. Now that is if you are luck to get this on your first match when loggin in and winning. Im guessing for this match most people will get a bonus of about 50-70kSp extra next week. WOOOPY, when is the double SP again ? It only applies to WP earned in a match, not total SP. If someone makes 70,000 SP from this event (in its current form) please mail me because I'd love to know how you're making 10,000 WP in a match. My record is 4700.
I also think it's just a test so they can introduce this system outside of events. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
740
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:02:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:This shouldn't be an event, people should always get at least this reward for winning.
But still cool, nevertheless. Can't happen all too often with Blue Dot Syndrome. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
740
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:04:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:This concept, along with triple SP, should be the norm. lol |
NoSoup4Me
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:43:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event.
Really glad you guys are trying stuff with SP bonuses .
Although the daily SP consecutive bonus is a great start , It's not going to really encourage people more than maybe loggin into their 3 chars to keep their consecutive bonus going .
I had been thinking along the lines of something that gives you a SP reward for every 2nd or 3rd battle you play .
So instead of said player logging in to get their SP bonus and maybe playing a game or 2 , they'll feel like they're missing something if they don't stick around for the 2nd battle and the 4th and so on .
For being a MMOFPS there's no reward for "grinding" all day or even a couple hours, There should be incentive to keep playing .
Right now the incentive is aimed at logging in and playing 1game .
Reward people who are playing the game , not for just stopping by .
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
485
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:52:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff" Honestly I couldn't care less about how good the free stuff is. I'm still waiting for CCP to talk to the community about what we want from an event. It'd be a tremendous step forward for them incorporate our feedback from any of the others, as that is something they are yet to do. As usual I won't be logging in for the duration of this event, or any event that is not designed with community input. Yeah cos like they didn't read the feedback from the last event and just gave us the exact same ... ohh wait yeah they did ... the reward isn't as high as we'd all like, but they're thinking in the right direction now.
Don't log in for the event ... don't log in again ... if you can't appreciate them just go find something else to do with your 'but I want one mummy' attitude. |
Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
485
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:59:00 -
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On topic ... good event CCP ... looks like a decent structure, but as others have said the potential reward is a little low to motivate and short lived since it only affects a single battle.
Making it a triple reward and/or maybe something repetative so every other win gives double or every fifth win gives 3 or 4x ... that could be a good option. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.18 12:00:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff" This pretty much lol.
TY CCP - this is a low-stress decent event with straightforward and understandable mechanics and reward.
I agree that permanent implementation would be pretty cool and wouldn't break anything, but I'm just happy the events team keeps cranking out new things. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
941
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Posted - 2013.09.18 12:12:00 -
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Go into match, earn 2500 wp, get bonus 5k sp per day...
So maybe if you were really good and got 3000 wp per day, that would only be an extra 42k MAX sp earned. 1500 wp per day would be 21k sp. For most players the bonus wouldn't even make a difference, they would log on and not see anything really.
Wow, lame :/ I earn more passive in one day than I'll probably get with the event this entire week.
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PADDEHATPIGEN
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
57
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:35:00 -
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It may not be alot, but i much rather get a little SP bonus. All the CRAP items we got in other events they can keep that, SP makes me happy...
I like it... |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1339
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Posted - 2013.09.18 13:46:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff" Honestly I couldn't care less about how good the free stuff is. I'm still waiting for CCP to talk to the community about what we want from an event. It'd be a tremendous step forward for them incorporate our feedback from any of the others, as that is something they are yet to do. As usual I won't be logging in for the duration of this event, or any event that is not designed with community input.
I guess you missed the thread where logibro and the commander made a whole thread for feedback on events and give quite a lot of back and forth on it. |
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
449
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:00:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. I'm certainly not going to thumb my nose at bonus sp, but how is this going to work if there's a situation where you queue, get placed in a winning match and don't really have the opportunity to score much wp (even just due to timing)?
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
449
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:04:00 -
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NoSoup4Me wrote:For being a MMOFPS there's no reward for "grinding" all day or even a couple hours, There should be incentive to keep playing .
Right now the incentive is aimed at logging in and playing 1game .
Reward people who are playing the game , not for just stopping by .
This is true, but consider that CCP doesn't want the game to feel grindy. I'd rather not feel compelled to grind up sp, and CCP probably wants us to play because we enjoy playing it over "we are grinding for sp." That being said, people enjoying the game should be able to "play up" for more sp, given that they're very active.
I love that you're rewarding WP behavior, though, as it disincentivizes people wandering around the red zone farming sp semi-afk.
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Parson Atreides
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
694
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Posted - 2013.09.18 14:54:00 -
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Aqil Aegivan wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:general forum members response to every dust event: "Give me better free stuff" Honestly I couldn't care less about how good the free stuff is. I'm still waiting for CCP to talk to the community about what we want from an event. It'd be a tremendous step forward for them incorporate our feedback from any of the others, as that is something they are yet to do. As usual I won't be logging in for the duration of this event, or any event that is not designed with community input.
Wait no more... |
Aqil Aegivan
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
197
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Posted - 2013.09.18 15:56:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:I guess you missed the thread where logibro and the commander made a whole thread for feedback on events and give quite a lot of back and forth on it.
Yes, I missed it completely. I'm only around that board once a week at best.
It's great that they're finally trying to figure out what's wrong with the way they design events. It's also a great example of the point I'm trying to make.
Eterne mentions details of the coming event in that thread, so I can assume that it's possible for the specifics of upcoming events to be discussed with the community. So why aren't we seeing announcement threads asking for player input on upcoming events? All it takes is a "Hey, here's what we're thinking, what do you guys think?"
Am I wrong to complain about the lack of player input into the design of events when it is apparently that easy to involve us?
Am I wrong in thinking that they have been woefully oblivious to our feedback when they are only just communicating about issues like these:
CCP Eterne wrote:Specifically, the following are all things we agree are needed (though be aware they're not necessarily in the pipeline for development at the moment):
- Automatic in-game tracking of objectives.
- Rewards that are either unique, broadly useable, or selectable from a list of potential rewards.
- Events more along the lines of Caldari Prime which are tied to the lore.
- Events that have unique objectives that are different from "normal" gameplay.
- Events that take place on unique maps or with unique skyboxes.
Here are some other things I've noticed repeated that you guys aren't thrilled with:
- Rewards that are Standard tier or have limited useability, even if they're in large numbers.
- Events that have complicated requirements that are difficult to track without them making events more interesting.
I'm not asking for the Devs to take my input in designing events, I want them to care about player input. Rather than just dropping events on us. |
sir michael dorsett
THEE ASYLUM
0
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:08:00 -
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i like the idea if only i wasn't always spawning into already started matches 3 out of5 times chances of picking up good wp's on a already started match is slim |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1710
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Posted - 2013.09.18 16:42:00 -
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CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. I like the event , but a 100 WP minimum for it to qualify as your "first victory" would be an improvement. Allowing players to opt out of matches which do not give them a real chance of earning WP because the match is already half over would be good.
0.02 ISK Cross
PS ~ Thanks for your continuing work to improve events, the recent thread on the subject is a very positive move. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
163
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:19:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. I like the event , but a 100 WP minimum for it to qualify as your "first victory" would be an improvement. Allowing players to opt out of matches which do not give them a real chance of earning WP because the match is already half over would be good. 0.02 ISK Cross PS ~ Thanks for your continuing work to improve events, the recent thread on the subject is a very positive move.
Agreed. |
SHANN da MAN
D3LTA FORC3 Inver Brass
91
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Posted - 2013.09.18 17:26:00 -
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NoSoup4Me wrote:CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. Really glad you guys are trying stuff with SP bonuses . Although the daily SP consecutive bonus is a great start , It's not going to really encourage people more than maybe loggin into their 3 chars to keep their consecutive bonus going . I had been thinking along the lines of something that gives you a SP reward for every 2nd or 3rd battle you play . So instead of said player logging in to get their SP bonus and maybe playing a game or 2 , they'll feel like they're missing something if they don't stick around for the 2nd battle and the 4th and so on . For being a MMOFPS there's no reward for "grinding" all day or even a couple hours, There should be incentive to keep playing . Right now the incentive is aimed at logging in and playing 1game . Reward people who are playing the game , not for just stopping by . Yes, why not run an event where you award 5x SP for the 5th game played in a day and 10x SP for the 10th game played in a day ... this way you are rewarding the people who are Staying and Playing. And the 5x , 10x rewards are high enough to incentivize players to stay on and play for them, while not being so high as to imbalance long term SP gain |
Al the destroyer
The Phoenix Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:38:00 -
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SHANN da MAN wrote:NoSoup4Me wrote:
Really glad you guys are trying stuff with SP bonuses .
Although the daily SP consecutive bonus is a great start , It's not going to really encourage people more than maybe loggin into their 3 chars to keep their consecutive bonus going .
I had been thinking along the lines of something that gives you a SP reward for every 2nd or 3rd battle you play .
So instead of said player logging in to get their SP bonus and maybe playing a game or 2 , they'll feel like they're missing something if they don't stick around for the 2nd battle and the 4th and so on .
For being a MMOFPS there's no reward for "grinding" all day or even a couple hours, There should be incentive to keep playing .
Right now the incentive is aimed at logging in and playing 1game .
Reward people who are playing the game , not for just stopping by . Agreed 1+ well done!!
Yes, why not run an event where you award 5x SP for the 5th game played in a day and 10x SP for the 10th game played in a day ... this way you are rewarding the people who are Staying and Playing. And the 5x , 10x rewards are high enough to incentivize players to stay on and play for them, while not being so high as to imbalance long term SP gain agreed!! |
Komodo Jones
Chaotik Serenity
123
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:40:00 -
[50] - Quote
I like this one, rather have plain old double SP but I have no problem with this, Hell if this were a permanent daily thing I think it would work out great |
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Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2087
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:41:00 -
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Asirius Medaius wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Awarded at the end of the week? I mean, for most people who get like 1000 WP a match, that's 7000 WP at the end of the week. Probably wouldn't notice it over the normal passive gain, but cool nonetheless. Assuming a person has the potential to reach 2000 Warpoints in the match, that's about 7000 total bonus per day (if they get 5000 SP for a skirmish match before the added WP) for 7 days... Even if they decide to go "all out" and achieve a score like that, they would be getting 49,000 WP, which, last time I checked, just barely pays for really any skill even at the "level 1". I don't know what you're talking about, if you get 2000 WP a match that's 2000 that gets doubled per day, so 14000 SP at the end of the week. It only doubled WP, not total SP from the match.
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True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2101
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Posted - 2013.09.18 18:43:00 -
[52] - Quote
Aero Yassavi wrote:Asirius Medaius wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Awarded at the end of the week? I mean, for most people who get like 1000 WP a match, that's 7000 WP at the end of the week. Probably wouldn't notice it over the normal passive gain, but cool nonetheless. Assuming a person has the potential to reach 2000 Warpoints in the match, that's about 7000 total bonus per day (if they get 5000 SP for a skirmish match before the added WP) for 7 days... Even if they decide to go "all out" and achieve a score like that, they would be getting 49,000 WP, which, last time I checked, just barely pays for really any skill even at the "level 1". I don't know what you're talking about, if you get 2000 WP a match that's 2000 that gets doubled per day, so 14000 SP at the end of the week. It only doubled WP, not total SP from the match. Aero guud at math, not like Adamens over dere.
That why Aero in charge.... not Adamens |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
40
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:20:00 -
[53] - Quote
Not enough motivation for me, but a tiny step in the right direction. It is like seeing a nickle on the ground, i would not bend down to pick it up, just not worth it..... Besides, I just bought Diablo 3 so I aill be playing that this week. Good luck! |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
753
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Posted - 2013.09.18 19:49:00 -
[54] - Quote
After a little bit more thinking: When will we get a real SP event again? I mean really: The First Victory gives extra SP is nice, but hardly event worthy. It should really be normal to always get some bonus SP for the first victory of the day.I mean this is like a "Get 30.000 Bonus SP!"-Event. What we need is another triple SP event. I just want to get my core skills to 5 but I always get carried away. Shortly before finally getting to my goal I think "Hey! I should just put some points into Light weapons for CPU reduction. Could be worth more than 5% Bonus CPU. And now I should also put 1 point in Scrambler and Laser Rifles. just to see how they work. I noticed btw. that I think Laser Rifles are more interesting than the AR. Should've noticed before I put about 3 Million SP into Assault rifles, but whatever. Can't hurt to be able to use more than one weapon efficiently. Whatever: I really want to see a new Triple SP event. Maybe to get 1.5 started. |
Dysnomia Pandora
Third Rock From The Sun
23
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Posted - 2013.09.18 22:04:00 -
[55] - Quote
This event just epic fail yet again. |
Crimson Cerberes
Hammer Of Light Covenant of the Phoenix Alliance
49
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Posted - 2013.09.19 03:17:00 -
[56] - Quote
So was there even one complaint about the triple SP events?
I say this because those seemed like everyone loved them, where as this 15-30k sp event is a joke. |
Sum1ne Else
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
545
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Posted - 2013.09.19 07:48:00 -
[57] - Quote
Asirius Medaius wrote:*yawn*
Goats To All? |
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
2707
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Posted - 2013.09.19 10:22:00 -
[58] - Quote
We're doing this with a script, so we can almost certainly make sure it checks to see that you had a "minimum contribution" before it gives you the bonus SP. That way you won't get screwed over by popping into an almost-done match.
Also, for everyone asking for this to be an "all the time" thing. Well, you might be getting what you want in the very near future. EVE Online/DUST 514 Community Representative GÇ+ EVE Illuminati GÇ+ Fiction Adept
@CCP_Eterne GÇ+ @EVE_LiveEvents |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1643
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:21:00 -
[59] - Quote
noted |
Mr-Lube
s i n g u l a r i t y
0
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Posted - 2013.09.19 11:27:00 -
[60] - Quote
Bonus Sp is always a good thing. I would like to see the issues with scotty fixed though or have the option to deploy to station briefing room first. I joined 10 matches in a row yesterday with the MCC already already 50% destroyed and I couldn't join a squad because the message was that they were already deployed in battle. This is a game breaker for me as w/l ratio and kdr have no value. Now it's just a game of war points. Back on the topic, SP rewards are great and should be small. I have played long and hard for my SP. As with all MMO's, players should have to earn SP by putting the time in.
Full squads win matches, locked squads with 2 or 3 lose matches. squad up! see you in the field. |
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Levithunder
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
38
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Posted - 2013.09.19 12:28:00 -
[61] - Quote
Does anyone else feel like the event rewards are getting worse and worse? there was one event back a few months ago and i made 700k sp in one week, it would be nice to have a isk event worth lets say 10 million isk, the Templar event was like lunch money since it only gave 1.5 million isk. PLEASE I beg of you for a decently rewarded event ;( |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
2118
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Posted - 2013.09.19 13:01:00 -
[62] - Quote
Levithunder wrote:Does anyone else feel like the event rewards are getting worse and worse? there was one event back a few months ago and i made 700k sp in one week, it would be nice to have a isk event worth lets say 10 million isk, the Templar event was like lunch money since it only gave 1.5 million isk. PLEASE I beg of you for a decently rewarded event ;( Its not the rewards of the events decreasing in quality its the quality of the event itself.
Does anyone remember Caldari Prime. Small rewards, great player enthusiasm and turnout, dynamic changes to the skybox and terrain, lore, some eve connection. Really great event. |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1352
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Posted - 2013.09.19 13:08:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We're doing this with a script, so we can almost certainly make sure it checks to see that you had a "minimum contribution" before it gives you the bonus SP. That way you won't get screwed over by popping into an almost-done match.
Also, for everyone asking for this to be an "all the time" thing. Well, you might be getting what you want in the very near future. I really hope u don't have to eat that might |
Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
129
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Posted - 2013.09.19 13:35:00 -
[64] - Quote
I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.). |
FraggerMike
G.R.A.V.E
78
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Posted - 2013.09.19 14:02:00 -
[65] - Quote
Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.).
^^ That is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far re this event. +1 |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis Covert Intervention
1724
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:10:00 -
[66] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We're doing this with a script, so we can almost certainly make sure it checks to see that you had a "minimum contribution" before it gives you the bonus SP. That way you won't get screwed over by popping into an almost-done match.
Also, for everyone asking for this to be an "all the time" thing. Well, you might be getting what you want in the very near future. Thanks for the response Eterne, and regardless of the specifics on this and the Cal Bootcamp event I am liking the looks of what the script you're testing may be capable of creating/adding to the Dust play experience.
Cheers, Cross |
IAmDuncanIdaho II
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
63
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Posted - 2013.09.19 15:28:00 -
[67] - Quote
FraggerMike wrote:Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.). ^^ That is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far re this event. +1
Yeah this is a great idea. If the proving ground of this event makes it a permanent feature, applying it to your best match of the day would work realy well. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
169
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:06:00 -
[68] - Quote
NoSoup4Me wrote: For being a MMOFPS there's no reward for "grinding" all day or even a couple hours, There should be incentive to keep playing .
Right now the incentive is aimed at logging in and playing 1game .
Reward people who are playing the game , not for just stopping by .
Precisely. I have been known to put in some 20-hour sessions on DUST, and never get much to show from it, although I do enjoy myself. |
Flint Beastgood III
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
169
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:09:00 -
[69] - Quote
IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote:FraggerMike wrote:Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.). ^^ That is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far re this event. +1 Yeah this is a great idea. If the proving ground of this event makes it a permanent feature, applying it to your best match of the day would work realy well.
Didn't notice that quoted post before. Awesome idea Canaan. This would see me earning a bonus of 5000+ SP per day - that's more like it. +1. |
ghjl ghjkl
Patriotic Investment Group Inc.
6
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Posted - 2013.09.19 16:40:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:Greetings mercs! Nothing is quite as satisfying as getting out of your quarters each day, stepping onto the battlefield, and walking away with the sweet taste of victory in your mouth. It doesn't seem like it could get better, could it? But for the week of September 19 to 26, we're going to make your first daily win even more pleasant by giving you bonus Skill Points based on how well you did in the battle. For your first victory every day, you will earn bonus SP equal to twice your earned War Points. This bonus is available for victories in any game mode and contract type. Best of all, it does not count against your weekly Skill Point cap! The bonus SP will be delivered after the conclusion of the event. \0/ |
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Beren Hurin
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1646
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Posted - 2013.09.19 19:59:00 -
[71] - Quote
FraggerMike wrote:Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.). ^^ That is probably the best suggestion I've heard so far re this event. +1
Yeah +1 also. I would play more with the feeling of "i know I can do better than that score, I've gotten 2500 WP before!" |
Canaan Knute
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
135
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Posted - 2013.09.19 22:00:00 -
[72] - Quote
Glad you all liked my idea. |
Spectral Clone
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
234
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Posted - 2013.09.20 05:46:00 -
[73] - Quote
I guess giving a constant reward of 5000 SP for the first wkn is something that could also be tested in the future. Or something like 10*(Awarded WP in first won game).
For people discussing bonuses for playing many matches in a row: Do not forget that bonuses should also apply to people who have a job and other duties outside of the game. Everyone cannot play 10 games a day, and for those that do, this bonus is also very nice. They are the ones that SHOULD get 2500+ WP every game anyways. |
Crazy Mistah Jay
The French Touch
157
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:30:00 -
[74] - Quote
Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.).
Great idea !!!
And i think, after this event, it will be a good thing if we can have this bonus based for the best match of the week (wednesday to wednesday, so we got the bonus of this game when the new weekly SP cap comes) each weeks (permanent event), so each player need to play one game each week for have this bonus, but make the best for have the best SP bonus, and if you play a lot of times each weeks, you have more chance to have a best SP bonus at the end of the week |
INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC
TYRANNY of EVIL MEN
44
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Posted - 2013.09.20 18:48:00 -
[75] - Quote
I've given ccp their fare share of complaining when my logi suit was nerfed, also when my aur fused loc grenades were nerfed, and as such now that I know they can change things after I paid aur for them ill never buy another piece of aur equipment again, that being said however I do feel that we have to encourage ccp and their efforts for more, so I say this is a step in the right direction, along with the new maps, the daily log in bonus and a few other things they are doing ok with, aim assist not included, but still the effort is there. |
Sneaky Fletcher
Three-body Solution
46
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Posted - 2013.09.21 03:45:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP Eterne wrote:We're doing this with a script, so we can almost certainly make sure it checks to see that you had a "minimum contribution" before it gives you the bonus SP. That way you won't get screwed over by popping into an almost-done match.
Oh CCP you're so silly XD
First solve the popping into an almost-done match. and then, when this is NOT an issue, implement First Victory Event
don't waste your time with fine-tuning scripts to work with a crappy matchmaking mechanic
and you said that with a straight face hahahaha you silly! |
Moonracer2000
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
684
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Posted - 2013.09.21 03:54:00 -
[77] - Quote
Canaan Knute wrote:I think this event would be better if the bonus SP was based on the best match of the day rather than the first. There's too much pressure to perform well during the first battle, and there are many ways for matches to go wrong (bad matchmaking, lag issues, disconnects, etc.).
Also into this idea. The current "first win" event just encourages people to play until they get a win (typically 1-3 I'm guessing). As others have pointed out a "best match" bonus would encourage people to play longer sessions, not just to log in and play a round or two.
If someone does only have time for one or two matches a day, they still likely get a bonus. |
KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
737
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Posted - 2013.09.21 11:32:00 -
[78] - Quote
I love stepping out into the fist victory of the morning that Stupid Scotty stuck me in a match that had Zero bars left for the Reds. Which means we won! What a feeling to realize that I didn't get to deploy and even if I had my WP would probably have still been Zero.
Fix Scotty before you do this again. It is just a waste of effort currently. Probably for both players and CCP/Shanghai. |
BUGSBUNNY LOONEY
Rise Of The Ph0enix
53
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:02:00 -
[79] - Quote
I believe I did not receive my bonus why? |
Big Popa Smurff
Ancient Exiles
803
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Posted - 2013.09.27 12:32:00 -
[80] - Quote
Hmm i don't think i got mine either... |
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steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1412
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Posted - 2013.09.27 13:15:00 -
[81] - Quote
Fairly sure iv not had any event rewards for a while now still waiting on my elite pack for example so its nothing unusually |
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