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Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
768
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Posted - 2013.09.19 23:17:00 -
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I use the HMG... sometimes.
When I'm not running assault, or tanks, or scouts.... |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1168
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Posted - 2013.09.19 23:22:00 -
[62] - Quote
SpinUp wrote:I tried this game again after the new patch and as a previous Hmg user I find this build I cant seem to use it like I used too? did it get a nerf? The patch notes seem to say it got a buff? I just get walked through by every Assault rifle on the field.
I cant see myself continuing with the Heavy build for the HMG anymore. Is there anyone still using it what's your advice? I really seem to do better with my militia assault rifle more range better accuracy should I continue with the HMG or go AR?
One of my friends uses an Assault HMG with Prof 4 and a Cx Damage mod.He goes 22-6 ish every game so not bad.... |
Tyrunis Bloodstone
Anubis Prime Syndicate
23
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Posted - 2013.09.19 23:25:00 -
[63] - Quote
I do. I am determined to optimize my performance with the HMG. I can't possibly believe that all is lost with my favorite weapon. Cause when I have good games, its really fun mowing down the competition. So if those games are good then what am I doing right in that game that I don't in others? So continue I will on mastering the HMG and my heavy strategy... |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
741
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Posted - 2013.09.20 01:39:00 -
[64] - Quote
Tyrunis Bloodstone wrote:I do. I am determined to optimize my performance with the HMG. I can't possibly believe that all is lost with my favorite weapon. Cause when I have good games, its really fun mowing down the competition. So if those games are good then what am I doing right in that game that I don't in others? So continue I will on mastering the HMG and my heavy strategy...
In the back of every clones mind is the ghost of was it my good skills that game or was it really the Server God that had me a second faster then the competition and thus doing 22 and 0??
Then next game versus the same exact team and the same map with the same loadouts its 7 and 5 so WTF??
Sometimes lag hinders the competitions game and we do very well but when its us that the lag is hindering then we @##$#$##$## at the game...lol. |
Apison Valusgeffen
THIRD EARTH INCORPORATED
10
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Posted - 2013.09.20 02:31:00 -
[65] - Quote
Beren Hurin wrote:Have you tried turning the HMG off and on again?
This literally made me laugh out loud!
Kudos |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance
436
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:27:00 -
[66] - Quote
not really. having a heavy suit with an ar is still better than one with an hmg.
clip size doesn't matter, the effective range of the gun is like 3 meters. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1181
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:31:00 -
[67] - Quote
low genius wrote:not really. having a heavy suit with an ar is still better than one with an hmg.
clip size doesn't matter, the effective range of the gun is like 3 meters.
Not the Assault one.
THe HMG and the BURST HMG are CQ weapons.
The ASsault HMG actually has decent range qualifying at least as a med ranged weapon :3 |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
959
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:35:00 -
[68] - Quote
Haven't played heavy since early 1.4, but I remember still being able to **** face with it so long I get in the outpost.
Anything past 20 meters isn't really worth burning bullets, but within that results in insta death.
Worth it, just play it like a long range shotty.
Otherwise, perhaps a med might be a little more accomedating. |
Vicious Minotaur
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
212
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Posted - 2013.09.20 04:40:00 -
[69] - Quote
I use it regularly. But I don't run around with it out. I run with my Flaylock out, and pretend I suck. Enemy falls for my ploy, engages me, dies to surprise HMG that I materialize out of thin air.
The HMG is beast if used right.
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Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
150
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Posted - 2013.09.20 05:31:00 -
[70] - Quote
Heavies seem to be doing less damage, but that's not true. What has happened is accuracy of rapid fire guns went up, mostly in part of increased aiming to the AR and other light handheld. This effectively means that all armor classes loose 30% of their E-hp due to the damage hitting more often. While heavy guns due to spread seem to have their hit ratios stay the same. The result is that AR and its kin have become more potent relative to the HMG.
The only thing I can think of that would return the guns to their prior performance is to reduce the damage of the AR and the SMG class weapons by 1-3 points. As increasing health by 100 across the board and raising HMG damage by 1-2 would affect too many other weapons and gear. |
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Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack
463
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:22:00 -
[71] - Quote
Beren Hurin wrote:Vespasian Andendare wrote:Beren Hurin wrote:The gallente heavy weapon will have to be the single most dangerous up close gun out there. I'm definitely looking forward to taking a Caldari Heavy suit, full shield in the top, kincats/stabs in the lows. Speed + death = profit! Why wouldn't you do that with the minmatar. You caldari are seriously screwed up. Your virture isn't speed its shield buffer and somewhat, shield regen. You will get the longest range weapons, which should mean you should be MORE okay with scarificing a little of that buffer, probably for some damage mods, so your longest range rifle can rip people apart from a distance. Likely more base shield hp (or maybe more base hp in general) and more low slots. All this is conjecture, of course, based on the current Caldari/Minmatar relationship in the game.
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621311251521 3316
Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:29:00 -
[72] - Quote
General John Ripper wrote:I love you HMG no they hate u its shot cotton ball at 50 meter but destroy a lav in close range yayyyyyyyyyy **** logic ccp |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1061
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:42:00 -
[73] - Quote
SpinUp wrote:I tried this game again after the new patch and as a previous Hmg user I find this build I cant seem to use it like I used too? did it get a nerf? The patch notes seem to say it got a buff? I just get walked through by every Assault rifle on the field.
I cant see myself continuing with the Heavy build for the HMG anymore. Is there anyone still using it what's your advice? I really seem to do better with my militia assault rifle more range better accuracy should I continue with the HMG or go AR?
Good news HMGs got a neutral buff/nerf! over heat reduction skill was changed to a recoil reduction skill. problem is recoil was never really an issue, because it only kicks in after about 150-200 rounds. if they are at range by that point you probably shouldnt even be engaging. but you'll never see recoil on the HMG because by that 200th round where recoil really starts it over heats.... hurray! the HMG has mre recoil than any other gun, but its managable up until the 200th round.
CCP why didn't you make that skill increase range, or decrease disperision? recoil the player controls but dispersion can't be countered by the player.
bad news AR got buffed too! thats right, the new hit detection and auto ai.... i mean aim "assist", coupled with the ARs already insanely high DPS/range profile, monster accuracy, 0 recoil and disperion makes it an HMG with none of the draw backs.
the difference between 425 and 600 is 29% (or if you include the bonus 10% buff its 467 and 660).
here is the trade off you make for using an AR vs HMG:
disadvantages
- does 29% less damage
- does marginally less damage to armor
advantages [list]
- can kill any suit in its optimal and effective ranges in 3.4 seconds or less (often less)
- does more damage to shielding
- has a much greater range with less damage fall off
- has no recoil up until the 40th bullet. this can be reset by quickly repressing the trigger button
- reloads in 3 seconds or less
- has one of the best PG/CPU usage among all weapons
- requires very little PG and has the most blue prints in the game
- comes free with a milita fit
- has a high fire rate with great hip fire spread making it as effective as shotguns in CQC.
- has very low negligible dispersion
- never overheats
- very low SP costs
- no suit limitations
make the move. |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1061
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:45:00 -
[74] - Quote
KING CHECKMATE wrote:low genius wrote:not really. having a heavy suit with an ar is still better than one with an hmg.
clip size doesn't matter, the effective range of the gun is like 3 meters. Not the Assault one.
THe HMG and the BURST HMG are CQ weapons.
The ASsault HMG actually has decent range qualifying at least as a med ranged weapon :3
AHMG does less damage than SMGs per level bro. and it only has about 5 more feet to it... nothing special.
milita SMG = 23@1000rpm AHMG = 12@2000rpm
wtf |
D legendary hero
THE WARRIORS OF LEGEND
1061
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Posted - 2013.09.20 07:52:00 -
[75] - Quote
I am a proto heavy. I've been doing his since chromosome. I can tell you for certain the HMG is not doing what it is supposed to. period.
give it some range, with much less damage fall off, and less dispersion. HMGs are supposed to have longer range than ARs but with more dispersion. this combo results in the desired supression effect.
right now ARs suppress Harder than any HMG, which is why people really don't run HMGs, especially not in PC.
but, think on this too. When is the last time you have encountered a burst HMG? I can only use mine on maps with objectives in CQC. the burst is really the heavies shotgun. but, these maps are hard to find. We need the HMGs fixed. |
calvin b
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
572
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:26:00 -
[76] - Quote
The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in.
First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor.
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Dexter307
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
371
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:34:00 -
[77] - Quote
calvin b wrote:The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in. First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor. Can't tell if trolling or... |
Long Evity
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
255
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:45:00 -
[78] - Quote
Dexter307 wrote:calvin b wrote:The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in. First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor. Can't tell if trolling or... I've been trying to think up a response to this - but all I can honestly think of is, "Please stop representing americans or our military." |
Ludvig Enraga
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
513
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Posted - 2013.09.20 15:55:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I am training all weapons to level 3 on my main, would rather do that than super specialize in AR, even if' its my strongest skill.
Threw scrambler up to 4 for assault scramblers, and had fun, really overheats fast, needs getting used to.
But yes, I also run a decent Advanced heavy fit with HMG, and when I do, stay in cover, don't even think about engaging at more than 30 meters, but I love Domi defending with flux and HMG.
Given those circumstances it's easy to have fun and go 15/5 or so, which is my benchmark for being useful and having fun.
Also, there is a strange over-confidence of AR users that is fun to exploit, let them see you for a bit out of cover, get shot at range and return a little fire, they see they don't take much damage, and come closer.
Had a lovely kill just like that last night, where I just did a little strafing around a crate yesterday, and suddenly lunged into melee range and basically one shotted him in the first blast. Fun times.
A lot of maps don't really support that playstyle and then I do something else
Nice to see that Devs balance the game around 'being fun'. I vividly remember how one of you left a post re: Uprising 1.0 where MD was broken, proudly bragging that MDs were working fine in your office LAN parties.
How about you don't tell us about you experience as a gamer but what you guys do as a company to make a banaced game. You have the statistics to find out which weapons do most kills and in what scenarios: on which map, at which distance, difference between pubs vs PC, difference between weaker suit with a certain weapon against proto suit or vice verse. I think those would be important things for your community to hear about. I know math is not 'fun' however. |
Fargen Icehole
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
126
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Posted - 2013.09.20 16:03:00 -
[80] - Quote
calvin b wrote:The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in. First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor.
This intellectual in no way represents the US, it's military, or it civilians for that matter. |
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BLACKSTAR AND TSUBAKI
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
61
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Posted - 2013.09.23 10:44:00 -
[81] - Quote
Reav Hannari wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:I am training all weapons to level 3 on my main, would rather do that than super specialize in AR, even if's my strongest skill.
Threw scrambler up to 4 for assault scramblers, and had fun, really overheat fast, needs getting used to.
But yes, I also run a decent Advanced heavy fit with HMG, and when I do, stay in cover, don't even think about engaging at more than 30 meters, but I love Domi defending with flux and HMG.
Given those circumstances it's easy to have fun and go 15/5 or so, which is my benchmark for being useful and having fun.
Also, there is a strange over-confidence of AR users that is fun to exploit, let them see you for a bit out of cover, get shot at range and return a little fire, they see they don't take much damage, and come closer.
Had a lovely kill just like that last night, where I just did a little strafing around a crate yesterday, and suddenly unged into melee range and basically one shotted him in the first blast. Fun times.
A lot of maps don't really support that playstyle and then I do something else Using tactics is fun. Seeing how far you can manipulate someone into doing what you want them to do. I've done the same things to heavies. Act like you are wounded and running away and draw them out of cover. Flux and SMG until golden brown and delicious.
GG M8
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Rusty Shallows
Black Jackals
402
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:02:00 -
[82] - Quote
Dexter307 wrote:calvin b wrote:The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in. First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor. Can't tell if trolling or... Outside the previous discussion The Attorney General response was definitively trolling. Reading the back and forth is like watching a train wreck. |
Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3874
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:05:00 -
[83] - Quote
lol @ bringing the US military and its policies in a thread about HMGs in DUST guys...GG |
843 Epidemic
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
149
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Posted - 2013.09.23 11:10:00 -
[84] - Quote
calvin b wrote:The Attorney General wrote:calvin b wrote:
No its not a childish response, my response just shows the lack of understanding you say. Realism has no place in a game you say. You make me laugh, you apparently failed to have played a Tom Clancy, BF, or COD game. These are based on real life battles and real life equipment and they have been very successful. So your argument is null and void. Second, my experience in these weapons do exist and I have the paper work to prove it, Its called a DD214. If you think the military is all beans and bullets you need to educate yourself on DARPA and see what the future really does hold. First off over 200 years of family military heritage is what I stand on, not you, wilkipedia, or any other lame a** argument you can come up with. My ancestors, including myself have fought in one war or another from the Revolutionary war to current war on terrorism. So for that I am glad I can stand here and argue this with you because this shows freedom still exist.
I said that realism has no place in a game with nuclear baseballs. There is a difference. The next time that you can perform a charged up laser shot in BF, then we can talk about that. This game has almost no realism involved, and expecting it is certainly going to lead to you being disappointed. My opinions on your service are immaterial, although I still find your claims highly dubious, if only for your seeming lack of ability to comprehend english, a skill normally valued in Defense related industries. Regardless, if you served, good for you. I don't need an education in what the military is about, I served my tour under conditions that most American soldiers couldn't take. I know this because when Americans did come down to Guiana to do our jungle course, they invariably were quite surprised at how we did things. If you fought in the war on terror, then there is a whole list of things I could call you, but that is a matter that does not need to be tread upon here, as it is both diversionary, and highly inflammatory. But good for you for supporting hegemony and being part of a war of aggression. Finally, if you think that as an American you are still free, or that you have rights, you are sorely mistaken, and I genuinely feel bad for you. But if you did serve, you at least deserve respect for being willing to put your life at risk for what you believe in. First of you piece of S*** do not ever talk S*** about the US military or the war on terrorism you F*** head. How is my English you dumb Mother F***. If our country was so terrible why is it millions of illegals from Mexico to South America have been flooding our borders. You are like most talk S*** about how bad the US is but once the SHTF who do you come begging to save your sorry A**. So go F*** yourself you Lama riding, D*** sucking, piece of S***. You and your country is not even worth mentioning in any history book. Brazil needs to just go ahead an Annex your piece of S*** country and do the F***** world a favor.
I can't even... lmao this guy is trolling. Right? Hahahhahahahah |
Jacques Cayton II
Caldari Protectorate United
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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:24:00 -
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Personally I hope the caldari hmg is a rotary railgun that is more deadly at 60 to 100 and max range is 150. I want it to be used like light infantry units use the m240b as support fire weapons they stay away from the majority of combat but are still deadly up close. They also could be super loud and have a high mussel flash like the forge gun just a suggestion though. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:26:00 -
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ar's dps is just better.
and since everyone even heavies use ar, hmg doesn't do so well.
on the flip side the burst hmg on the new maps do amazingly well in the tight corridors. |
DS 10
Will Ring For Booze
1008
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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:31:00 -
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I primarily Forge, but on a few maps I like to HMG. I finally put SP back into them so they're pretty good. Keep a Logi attached to you and you'll do fine. |
CHICAGOCUBS4EVER
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.10.02 13:41:00 -
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all I play is heavy, mostly HMG except when some silly red dot brings out a vehicle (more often than not...)
HMG when fit proper just melts.
now in CQC in a competitive match, it is EASILY countered now, which is the downside. gotta play smart to make it work now |
falzar102
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
34
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Posted - 2013.10.02 14:08:00 -
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SpinUp wrote:I tried this game again after the new patch and as a previous Hmg user I find this build I cant seem to use it like I used too? did it get a nerf? The patch notes seem to say it got a buff? I just get walked through by every Assault rifle on the field.
I cant see myself continuing with the Heavy build for the HMG anymore. Is there anyone still using it what's your advice? I really seem to do better with my militia assault rifle more range better accuracy should I continue with the HMG or go AR?
I find myself increasing using the pistol with suppressor. I still like using the AK47 as it has a lot of stopping power. Sticky bombs are good also.
Sorry, I thought this was the gta5 forum. I haven't played dust since that game came out. It also has an hmg that didn't fail. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
234
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Posted - 2013.10.02 16:30:00 -
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CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:all I play is heavy, mostly HMG except when some silly red dot brings out a vehicle (more often than not...)
HMG when fit proper just melts.
now in CQC in a competitive match, it is EASILY countered now, which is the downside. gotta play smart to make it work now
Definitely. The new AA definitely made things more complicated for the heavy. What I tend to do now is pay attention to my surroundings when I'm headed somewhere and then head back there once I start fighting. As a heavy so far the best tactic has been to draw them to me in a dark alley somewhere then **** them when they come around the corner. Most AR players have a false sense of security and will chase down a heavy at first sight. So what I normally do is fire about a 1/4 clip at them and then run, giving them the assumption that I'm actually the one that's scared. Usually with a well cooked grenade you can handle him no probs but even without nades it's still fairly easy. Also I start shooting right before they turn the corner so when they get around they are automatically hit with fire. |
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