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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:39:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: If someone is that determined to murder taxi, trying to prevent it is an exercise in futility. That said, I always try to do my part. When I see a bluedot trying to hack a red LAV, I blast it with my FG/HMG or pop it with my AV nades. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
waitWHUT? Why would you try to stop your own teammate from hacking an enemy LAV ??? This is counter productive. you should stop that. Counter productive is driving around in an LAV trying to run people down like squirrels. By destroying red LAVs, I'm preventing this. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1714
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:40:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote: Yeah, to be fair they should reimburse the owners of free LAV's and remove them entirely.
Dust has no room for BPO vehicles. That's a pandoras box in the making I agree with this. I own two Guristas Sagas but DUST in fact has no room for free vehicles. idk what they were thinking. Then remove BPO dropsuits, weapons, and modules as well. Fair is fair, after all. I agree. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:41:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:~20,000 ISK will buy you a MLT Onikuma or Baloch.
As a Heavy, I use the **** out them. Just try not to get too close to the firefight and recall it. I think I've been using the same one for almost 2 weeks.
I removed the OEM missile launcher and replaced it with a blaster, just in case.
So, spend time recalling a vehicle, when I could be helping my squad capture/recapture/defend an objective/installation.
Makes perfect sense!
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Mortedeamor
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
252
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:44:00 -
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speccing into lavs requires very little sp a few weeks worth of your sp and is well worth it. there is no reason for ccp to give you a free ride and if you want a free ride open up your wallet and by the elite pack |
Daxxis KANNAH
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
363
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:49:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:
How is it a "cheap tactic" for a heavy to transport himself to a contested objective/installation?
Did I say "drive around looking for lonewolfers to kill"? No I didn't. Did I say "go to firefight, jump out, stand next to LAV and shoot until almost dead, jump in LAV and drive off"? No I didn't!
There is absolutely nothing wrong with being able to transport myself from one objective to another.
You dont have to "say" or even do but it is how its used by many. A big issue with this game, exploits that detract for how the gameplay should develop.
Heavies are slow for a reason - they should have to plan deployment and imo not be fully independent in fast insertion and extraction.
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE SPADES EoN.
50
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:50:00 -
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we need blue sprints of all militia vehicles |
Luk Manag
of Terror TRE GAFFEL
82
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Posted - 2013.09.16 21:56:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment.
Sorry to hear that you cannot afford the BPO. I just didn't want it to be some kind of secret - I didn't even know it was a BPO when I bought it. I was also surprised that I got to keep it when everybody else's LAV BPOs disappeared. I think BPOs are fine for Dust 514 - there are significant incentives for using expensive advanced and prototype gear. I think they should have a Militia Tank BPO as well - they're so easy to pop that pilots would choose to risk ISK when they could afford it. |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
95
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:01:00 -
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*Opens his Dust garage and looks at his one remaining Baloch Impact from when they were free* "My precious..." |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
742
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:06:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Rynoceros wrote:~20,000 ISK will buy you a MLT Onikuma or Baloch.
As a Heavy, I use the **** out them. Just try not to get too close to the firefight and recall it. I think I've been using the same one for almost 2 weeks.
I removed the OEM missile launcher and replaced it with a blaster, just in case. So, spend time recalling a vehicle, when I could be helping my squad capture/recapture/defend an objective/installation. Makes perfect sense!
If that 4 seconds it takes to recall your vehicle is going to screw your team, the battle was already lost.
No emoticon necessary. |
SgtDoughnut
M.E.R.C. Elite
126
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:06:00 -
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You dont even have to spec into vehicles to get a cheap one to use, just toss together a cheap militia fit one to drive you around. max cost like 10k isk, if you cant make more than 10k isk in a match you should probably just uninstall the game. |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:07:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:*Opens his Dust garage and looks at his one remaining Baloch Impact from when they were free* "My precious..." Got a good laugh picturing Smigle sitting in the driver's seat rubbing the steering wheel! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:11:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Rynoceros wrote:~20,000 ISK will buy you a MLT Onikuma or Baloch.
As a Heavy, I use the **** out them. Just try not to get too close to the firefight and recall it. I think I've been using the same one for almost 2 weeks.
I removed the OEM missile launcher and replaced it with a blaster, just in case. So, spend time recalling a vehicle, when I could be helping my squad capture/recapture/defend an objective/installation. Makes perfect sense! If that 4 seconds it takes to recall your vehicle is going to screw your team, the battle was already lost. No emoticon necessary.
Four seconds is more than enough to bring a team back from the brink in any close match. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.16 22:15:00 -
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SgtDoughnut wrote:You dont even have to spec into vehicles to get a cheap one to use, just toss together a cheap militia fit one to drive you around. max cost like 10k isk, if you cant make more than 10k isk in a match you should probably just uninstall the game. I said nothing about SP, but now that you mention it, Heavies are already enough of an SP sink without having to spec into vehicles simply to get to where we are needed.
I make plenty more than 10k isk in a match, so your smart ass comments are not really necessary or wanted in this thread.
The point is, 10k is is too much to lose because of lolblueberry "team members" or not having enough time to recall the thing. |
MassiveNine
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
211
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:45:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:SgtDoughnut wrote:You dont even have to spec into vehicles to get a cheap one to use, just toss together a cheap militia fit one to drive you around. max cost like 10k isk, if you cant make more than 10k isk in a match you should probably just uninstall the game. I said nothing about SP, but now that you mention it, Heavies are already enough of an SP sink without having to spec into vehicles simply to get to where we are needed. I make plenty more than 10k isk in a match, so your smart ass comments are not really necessary or wanted in this thread. The point is, 10k is is too much to lose because of lolblueberry "team members" or not having enough time to recall the thing.
10k is is nothing to some people though. Hell I have 74 million and I'm sure there's more with more out there. |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
118
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Posted - 2013.09.16 23:52:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. I don't think it is too much to spend ISK on a MLT LAV and recall it. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
775
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:01:00 -
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General Erick wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. I don't think it is too much to spend ISK on a MLT LAV and recall it. You obviously didn't read the entire OP
Does anybody read the entire OP of a thread before posting? |
AAGMUNDR
Reliable Overwatch Inc.
123
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:12:00 -
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I don't understand. They only cost 60k isk. Buy a bunch, drive to wherever your fat-suit can't run you to fast enough, recall it if the money matters that much (it takes seconds), kill people with your fat suit, and if you survive call in another. |
m twiggz
Pawns and Kings The Superpowers
72
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:16:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:What is stopping the reimplementing of Free MLT LAVs?
As a Heavy, I really need transportation to be viable in nearly every map. While many objectives have CQ areas, the areas themselves are separated by vast expanses of barren landscape. These desert wastes are a death sentence to any Heavy trying to cross on foot.
Having to spec into a vehicle is ridiculous for a Heavy. It would only incur an ISK loss for any Heavy.
To prevent the loss, we would have to recall the LAV. This is not viable because of the nature of the Heavies role. When a Heavy is needed to lay down fire, we don't have time to recall a vehicle. We just simply get as close as possible, get out and shoot. Trying to recall a vehicle while under fire is tantamount to suicide, so we must leave it where it sits. This results in one of 4 things, the LAV getting stolen by a "team member" which is most likely, the LAV getting destroyed by the enemy, the LAV self destructing as an unattended vehicle, or an enemy team member hacking the vehicle.
I'm confident that I can speak for all Heavies when I say we want our free LAVs returned!
I'm sure this is just stating the obvious but this is a free game. Dumping $50 into it for an infinite LAV is the same price as any new game on the market. Besides that spending your ISK on an LAV shouldn't be a huge deal either. The basic ones are cheap and require next to no SP to skill into. If some random blueberry hops into it and it gets destroyed so be it. As other people have stated you can't get the reward without the risk. Heavies that drive around in LAVs, hop out, destroy people with bullets, then hop back in and drive away laughing are not my favorite anyways. Good luck! |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3618
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Posted - 2013.09.17 00:18:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:What is stopping the reimplementing of Free MLT LAVs?
As a Heavy, I really need transportation to be viable in nearly every map. While many objectives have CQ areas, the areas themselves are separated by vast expanses of barren landscape. These desert wastes are a death sentence to any Heavy trying to cross on foot.
Having to spec into a vehicle is ridiculous for a Heavy. It would only incur an ISK loss for any Heavy.
To prevent the loss, we would have to recall the LAV. This is not viable because of the nature of the Heavies role. When a Heavy is needed to lay down fire, we don't have time to recall a vehicle. We just simply get as close as possible, get out and shoot. Trying to recall a vehicle while under fire is tantamount to suicide, so we must leave it where it sits. This results in one of 4 things, the LAV getting stolen by a "team member" which is most likely, the LAV getting destroyed by the enemy, the LAV self destructing as an unattended vehicle, or an enemy team member hacking the vehicle.
I'm confident that I can speak for all Heavies when I say we want our free LAVs returned! Speeders.
Better, faster, cheaper. Hold out till they put those in. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
269
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Posted - 2013.09.17 01:30:00 -
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The problem is not completely fixed. Just the other day, I was just hopping around to avoid an LAV, then he barely hits me and I'm dead :/ |
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Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
663
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Posted - 2013.09.17 05:57:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:What is stopping the reimplementing of Free MLT LAVs?
As a Heavy, I really need transportation to be viable in nearly every map. While many objectives have CQ areas, the areas themselves are separated by vast expanses of barren landscape. These desert wastes are a death sentence to any Heavy trying to cross on foot.
Having to spec into a vehicle is ridiculous for a Heavy. It would only incur an ISK loss for any Heavy.
To prevent the loss, we would have to recall the LAV. This is not viable because of the nature of the Heavies role. When a Heavy is needed to lay down fire, we don't have time to recall a vehicle. We just simply get as close as possible, get out and shoot. Trying to recall a vehicle while under fire is tantamount to suicide, so we must leave it where it sits. This results in one of 4 things, the LAV getting stolen by a "team member" which is most likely, the LAV getting destroyed by the enemy, the LAV self destructing as an unattended vehicle, or an enemy team member hacking the vehicle.
I'm confident that I can speak for all Heavies when I say we want our free LAVs returned! So... you want to be able to roll up on somebody, jump out with no delay time, and immediately be in a player's face with high health and an HMG at no extra risk of losing any fake in-game money?
Yeah, that's something CCP should get right on 'fixing'. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
778
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Posted - 2013.09.17 11:59:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:What is stopping the reimplementing of Free MLT LAVs?
As a Heavy, I really need transportation to be viable in nearly every map. While many objectives have CQ areas, the areas themselves are separated by vast expanses of barren landscape. These desert wastes are a death sentence to any Heavy trying to cross on foot.
Having to spec into a vehicle is ridiculous for a Heavy. It would only incur an ISK loss for any Heavy.
To prevent the loss, we would have to recall the LAV. This is not viable because of the nature of the Heavies role. When a Heavy is needed to lay down fire, we don't have time to recall a vehicle. We just simply get as close as possible, get out and shoot. Trying to recall a vehicle while under fire is tantamount to suicide, so we must leave it where it sits. This results in one of 4 things, the LAV getting stolen by a "team member" which is most likely, the LAV getting destroyed by the enemy, the LAV self destructing as an unattended vehicle, or an enemy team member hacking the vehicle.
I'm confident that I can speak for all Heavies when I say we want our free LAVs returned! So... you want to be able to roll up on somebody, jump out with no delay time, and immediately be in a player's face with high health and an HMG at no extra risk of losing any fake in-game money? Yeah, that's something CCP should get right on 'fixing'. Did I say anything like that" No!
As a matter of fact, if you had bothered to read through the tread, you would have discovered quite different, but alas, you simply came here to troll.
I never said anything was necessarily "broken" |
The Terminator T-1000
The Praetorian Legionary
40
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:15:00 -
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ratamaq doc wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. So, where does that leave the rest of us? Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. Also not trying to be a smart ass but, Money makes the world go round and the developers don't live on complements alone. Come cut my grass, I'll give you $50. $50 dollars is not a large amount of money to spend on something you enjoy. Many people have spent much more and gotten much less. How much does dinner and a movie cost these days?
In some parts of the world $50 is a lot of money.... |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1196
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:36:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. It leaves you being "content" for paying users...
... welcome to free to play. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
42
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Posted - 2013.09.17 12:48:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? Yeah, to be fair they should reimburse the owners of free LAV's and remove them entirely. Dust has no room for BPO vehicles. That's a pandoras box in the making
no bpo vehicle means no more bpo millita suits or bpo duits in general then, |
General Erick
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
122
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:37:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:General Erick wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. I don't think it is too much to spend ISK on a MLT LAV and recall it. You obviously didn't read the entire OP Does anybody read the entire OP of a thread before posting? I actually did. A way to remedy your problem is to get out outside the battle zone and recall before getting into the fight. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
781
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:48:00 -
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General Erick wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:General Erick wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Luk Manag wrote:My friend bought the 50$ merc pack, and I bought the 100$ one. Each came with their own LAV BPO. 75% of the LAVs you see these days are "free" having a red or black V on the hood. Not trying to be a smart ass, but, Congratulations to the People who can afford to spend $50 - $100 on the packs. Where does that leave the rest of us? EDIT: Not everyone can afford to drop that kind of cash at the moment. I don't think it is too much to spend ISK on a MLT LAV and recall it. You obviously didn't read the entire OP Does anybody read the entire OP of a thread before posting? I actually did. A way to remedy your problem is to get out outside the battle zone and recall before getting into the fight. So how far would you suggest?
What is the range of an AR again? 50 m optimal?
Soooo jump out about 120 m away from the battle, then try to run in without getting picked off?
What would be the point of calling in an LAV to begin with? |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
913
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Posted - 2013.09.17 15:50:00 -
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Easiest way to solve your problem is to get a friend who has the BPO and have him call you in a freebie whenever you need.
On my heavy alt I specced into LAV's enough so I could get the Saga II, and even with no modules I am not breaking the bank on them. |
Dimitri Rascolovitch
The Immortal Knights
40
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:06:00 -
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Skihids wrote:This is a team based game, so you shouldn't have to drive alone. It's uneconomical and more dangerous. Take the bus.
Specifically a dropship.
Get together with 4-5 of your friends and call in an air taxi. The dropship is specifically built to get you where you want to go quickly and in style. With the advent of patch 1.5 the dropship should easily survive the trip and allow you and your friends to drop on the objective and take it by overwhelming force rather than trickling in by the carload and getting cut down.
Imagine you and five of your heavy friends making an unannounced call at your favorite installation!
and watch as i pop your dropship with my proto FG and get a massive multikill |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
982
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Posted - 2013.09.17 16:08:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:What is stopping the reimplementing of Free MLT LAVs?
As a Heavy, I really need transportation to be viable in nearly every map. While many objectives have CQ areas, the areas themselves are separated by vast expanses of barren landscape. These desert wastes are a death sentence to any Heavy trying to cross on foot.
Having to spec into a vehicle is ridiculous for a Heavy. It would only incur an ISK loss for any Heavy.
To prevent the loss, we would have to recall the LAV. This is not viable because of the nature of the Heavies role. When a Heavy is needed to lay down fire, we don't have time to recall a vehicle. We just simply get as close as possible, get out and shoot. Trying to recall a vehicle while under fire is tantamount to suicide, so we must leave it where it sits. This results in one of 4 things, the LAV getting stolen by a "team member" which is most likely, the LAV getting destroyed by the enemy, the LAV self destructing as an unattended vehicle, or an enemy team member hacking the vehicle.
I'm confident that I can speak for all Heavies when I say we want our free LAVs returned!
1 question whats stopping you investing a little sp into either sagas or methanas? Why should you get free lavs? I dont agree with blueprints for any vehicle as it negates the risk verses reward system that is intrinsic to this game.
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