I am sorry?

I'm tired of it now.

After 1.4 I changed to the KB/M exclusively, and it was as awesome as when playing Unreal Tournament 2004 (yea, i still play it sometimes.) Sure, there's SMALL problems like the grenade hotkey being in a silly place, or the radial menu...but aiming is beast. Even after getting used to the weird ADS, its still beast.

Every single game I've ever played in the past 16 years, even the original Doom, there has been one opinion that's been spoken in unison by anyone I've ever met : Using a Mouse over a joystick is by far superior control method to aim.

It's been common knowledge from any gamer I've met. Not once have i heard a contrary opinion. I assumed the reason being was anyone with marginal intelligence can see the physical differences in using a KB/M and a joystick.

A controlling method where ONE arm is making precise, fluid motions by simple twitches of your wrist. Opposed to a controlling method using TWO arms, TWO thumbs sitting on top of TWO sticks that you have to tilt in opposite directions just to achieve a poor semblance of precise aiming.

For god's sake, there's a reason it's FAR easier to draw a circle in the air with a Mouse then it is with a Joystick. No FPS game needed to notice that superiority.

Yet here comes the Dust 514 Community. "There's no difference in aiming between using a KB/M over a DS3" "Anything you can do with a mouse, you can do with a joystick" "Any Aim assist in an FPS is distasteful because it gives noobs an upper hand"

Seriously? How is it this is the only game where the community feels the KB/M IS NOT superior to a joystick? How is it tankers didn't notice their 50/0 score wasn't from their tank being unstoppable? How the hell can you feel the CalLogi suit was obviously superior to any other suit, and then try and complain that your suit got nerfed, yet at the same time concur with the Flaylock nerf? And whats worse is the constant spouting of lies to try and justify your "wanting" what you dislike removed.

It's all fuckin bold faced lies in this community to try and get what they want, and its slowly been ruining the game thus far . I just don't see it changing any time soon, esp after this aim assist fiasco.

TL;DR - Dust 514's problem stems from it's own community.

If you do anything for damn near 20 years you can get really, really good at it. Aiming with dual sticks is no different. I honestly believe I aim better with analog sticks than I do with a mouse simply because I've been doing it for so damn long, not that quick aiming using either method is particularly challenging in the slightest.

You're ignorant of common facts.

There is a reason that consoles never incorporated controllers against kb&m. There is a reason that Computer gaming doesn't have aim assist built into it.

There is a reason we use a mouse when serving the internet and not a controller...

I figured this out way back in closed beta.

Anyway- welcome to the club. You'll need to have a good head to stay here without contributing to the poison.

I'm tired of it now.

After 1.4 I changed to the KB/M exclusively, and it was as awesome as when playing Unreal Tournament 2004 (yea, i still play it sometimes.) Sure, there's SMALL problems like the grenade hotkey being in a silly place, or the radial menu...but aiming is beast. Even after getting used to the weird ADS, its still beast.

Every single game I've ever played in the past 16 years, even the original Doom, there has been one opinion that's been spoken in unison by anyone I've ever met : Using a Mouse over a joystick is by far superior control method to aim.

It's been common knowledge from any gamer I've met. Not once have i heard a contrary opinion. I assumed the reason being was anyone with marginal intelligence can see the physical differences in using a KB/M and a joystick.

A controlling method where ONE arm is making precise, fluid motions by simple twitches of your wrist. Opposed to a controlling method using TWO arms, TWO thumbs sitting on top of TWO sticks that you have to tilt in opposite directions just to achieve a poor semblance of precise aiming.

For god's sake, there's a reason it's FAR easier to draw a circle in the air with a Mouse then it is with a Joystick. No FPS game needed to notice that superiority.

Yet here comes the Dust 514 Community. "There's no difference in aiming between using a KB/M over a DS3" "Anything you can do with a mouse, you can do with a joystick" "Any Aim assist in an FPS is distasteful because it gives noobs an upper hand"

Seriously? How is it this is the only game where the community feels the KB/M IS NOT superior to a joystick? How is it tankers didn't notice their 50/0 score wasn't from their tank being unstoppable? How the hell can you feel the CalLogi suit was obviously superior to any other suit, and then try and complain that your suit got nerfed, yet at the same time concur with the Flaylock nerf? And whats worse is the constant spouting of lies to try and justify your "wanting" what you dislike removed.

It's all fuckin bold faced lies in this community to try and get what they want, and its slowly been ruining the game thus far . I just don't see it changing any time soon, esp after this aim assist fiasco.

TL;DR - Dust 514's problem stems from it's own community.

I'm tired of it now.

After 1.4 I changed to the KB/M exclusively, and it was as awesome as when playing Unreal Tournament 2004 (yea, i still play it sometimes.) Sure, there's SMALL problems like the grenade hotkey being in a silly place, or the radial menu...but aiming is beast. Even after getting used to the weird ADS, its still beast.

Every single game I've ever played in the past 16 years, even the original Doom, there has been one opinion that's been spoken in unison by anyone I've ever met : Using a Mouse over a joystick is by far superior control method to aim.

It's been common knowledge from any gamer I've met. Not once have i heard a contrary opinion. I assumed the reason being was anyone with marginal intelligence can see the physical differences in using a KB/M and a joystick.

A controlling method where ONE arm is making precise, fluid motions by simple twitches of your wrist. Opposed to a controlling method using TWO arms, TWO thumbs sitting on top of TWO sticks that you have to tilt in opposite directions just to achieve a poor semblance of precise aiming.

For god's sake, there's a reason it's FAR easier to draw a circle in the air with a Mouse then it is with a Joystick. No FPS game needed to notice that superiority.

Yet here comes the Dust 514 Community. "There's no difference in aiming between using a KB/M over a DS3" "Anything you can do with a mouse, you can do with a joystick" "Any Aim assist in an FPS is distasteful because it gives noobs an upper hand"

Seriously? How is it this is the only game where the community feels the KB/M IS NOT superior to a joystick? How is it tankers didn't notice their 50/0 score wasn't from their tank being unstoppable? How the hell can you feel the CalLogi suit was obviously superior to any other suit, and then try and complain that your suit got nerfed, yet at the same time concur with the Flaylock nerf? And whats worse is the constant spouting of lies to try and justify your "wanting" what you dislike removed.

It's all fuckin bold faced lies in this community to try and get what they want, and its slowly been ruining the game thus far . I just don't see it changing any time soon, esp after this aim assist fiasco.

TL;DR - Dust 514's problem stems from it's own community.

Like it have been said 1,000,000,000,000,000 times before, if you think the mouse is superior use it yourself. Dust 514 supports DS3, keyboard, mouse, and Move Controller. CCP have given us LOTS of options to choose from, choose one of them and STFU.

The mouse is far superior to the controller in Dust 514 and is now even better in this build.

you dirty KB/M user! i will see the day when you get nerfed into the ground!

that is all.
btw yes was lazy and didn't read any of it. i have no clue what the OP said.

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TL;DR - Dust 514's problem stems from it's own community.

There are a lot of whiners in all games. Its CCP's job to try and filter out the whine from the real issues and adjust fire as needed. Not an easy job or one that I'd want to have. However, without the ability to provide feedback I think the game would be in a worse condition.

I'm sure there were slaves who didn't like the architecture of Egyptian pyramids too. But the Pharaoh didn't give two kittens, did he?

CCP can promise our feedback is valuable. Politicians can promise our votes matter. But in the end, do they have to really consider everything we say?

This community only destroys DUST if it has an integral part in building it. I think we think we matter too much; we don't. So just have fun and farm likes.