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Nelo Angel0
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
167
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:06:00 -
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Best ideas, based on likes, i'll quote and put for all to here. Now on topic  what sort of respec systems would you guys try to use? I personally would go with a system where everyone gets X respecs, 2 is mine, per year that can be used at any given point and time. These respecs WOULD NOT stack per year so you can have more than 2 at any given point and time. The "year" applies to when the respecs were used so there's no abusable deadline.
Let me know what you guys think and what ideas you have. I also want to clarify that this tread thread isn't for people to complain about respecs. This is a thread to discuss what system the majority of us that DO want it can agree on. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
603
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:07:00 -
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once all the suits and vehicles come out a total respec and then never ever again |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
1670
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:09:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:once all the suits and vehicles come out a total respec and then never ever again
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Nelo Angel0
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
167
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:13:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:once all the suits and vehicles come out a total respec and then never ever again
Hard to disagree but as is dust is pretty dull. Even with a total respec will just go back to our daily motions of complaining after a month of having to grind again. Still it's not a bad idea just that dust itself makes it hard to agree |
Vell0cet
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
213
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:13:00 -
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Once we achieve racial symmetry, we get one limited respec so you can pick your race, but can't dump all sp into vehicles if you weren't speced into them before, or vice-versa. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
701
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:13:00 -
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Expensive, both ISK and Aurum, and you lose 1 mil SP to do it. Wouldn't make much sense below 13 mil, but whatever.
Say.... 2.5 mil ISK, 15,000 Aurum. |
Jathniel
G I A N T
EoN.
927
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:15:00 -
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No readily available respecs.
Just a courtesy respec offer every major patch, until all of the suits, vehicles, and equipment comes out. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
5252
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:18:00 -
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Pay 33% of your lifetime SP to respec. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
729
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:20:00 -
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10,000,000 ISK
OR
20,000 Aurum
Available once every 720 hours |
KA24DERT
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:33:00 -
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I'd like the same respec system that Eve has. |
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TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
3464
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:46:00 -
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KA24DERT wrote:I'd like the same respec system that Eve has.
... You know they actually don't have a respec system, right? |
KA24DERT
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
114
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Posted - 2013.09.15 02:52:00 -
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TheAmazing FlyingPig wrote:KA24DERT wrote:I'd like the same respec system that Eve has. ... You know they actually don't have a respec system, right?
You know that you're a winner, right? |
BARDAS
DUST University
Ivy League
477
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:00:00 -
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A big giant red button in your merc quarters. When you press it it automatically resets all your skill points and marks your total SP as ZERO thus effectively giving people exactly what they are asking for while screwing them over at the same time. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
23
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:29:00 -
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AUR token respecs |
XxWarlordxX97
Ancient Exiles
4573
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:34:00 -
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The MAG respec system |
RydogV
Shadow Company HQ
344
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:37:00 -
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No free repecs.
Respecs for 20,000 AUR each and you lose 10% of your SP. That will discourage players with a lot of SP from continuously respecing.
READ: Make better decisions. |
Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
749
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:44:00 -
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None, because respecing doesn't force you to:
A) Deal with the fact that you've made mistakes
B) Destroys the feeling of permenancy currently associated with your choices which makes you really consider each choice deeply before you jump in.
C) Deprives you of the learning and sometimes joy when you find out that an accidentally/mistakenly bought skillpoint is actually quite useful.
I'd also like to point out that any respec is destructive to the game since all players will just constantly spec into the flavor of the moment destroying any semblance of play style diversity.
Respecs for AUR are awful because they promote a pay to win environment (see previous FOTM comment) and respects for large isk amounts give a huge advantage to the rich vets.
In summary, respecs are an awful idea and CCP has said there will be no more of them anyway so just give up on it. The rest of us are tired of verbally thrashing you for wanting a respec. |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
1066
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:45:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Best ideas, based on likes, i'll quote and put for all to here. Now on topic what sort of respec systems would you guys try to use? I personally would go with a system where everyone gets X respecs, 2 is mine, per year that can be used at any given point and time. These respecs WOULD NOT stack per year so you can have more than 2 at any given point and time. The "year" applies to when the respecs were used so there's no abusable deadline. Let me know what you guys think and what ideas you have. I also want to clarify that this tread thread isn't for people to complain about respecs. This is a thread to discuss what system the majority of us that DO want it can agree on.
Respecs every time they make something new, so that players can test as much as possible before they give us a FINAL respec when everything is out.
By that time ,every single player should know what they want to play as, and everybody should be happy.
After that, no respecs, NEVER again.... |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
Renegade Alliance
421
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:47:00 -
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none. if you want to respec, start a new character. |
Nelo Angel0
The Nommo
Insurance Fraud.
167
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:48:00 -
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Mobius Kaethis wrote:None, because respecing doesn't force you to:
A) Deal with the fact that you've made mistakes
B) Destroys the feeling of permenancy currently associated with your choices which makes you really consider each choice deeply before you jump in.
C) Deprives you of the learning and sometimes joy when you find out that an accidentally/mistakenly bought skillpoint is actually quite useful.
I'd also like to point out that any respec is destructive to the game since all players will just constantly spec into the flavor of the moment destroying any semblance of play style diversity.
Respecs for AUR are awful because they promote a pay to win environment (see previous FOTM comment) and respects for large isk amounts give a huge advantage to the rich vets.
In summary, respecs are an awful idea and CCP has said there will be no more of them anyway so just give up on it. The rest of us are tired of verbally thrashing you for wanting a respec.
I also want to clarify that this thread isn't for people to complain about respecs. This is a thread to discuss what system the majority of us that DO want it can agree on. |
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Molon Labe.
RISE of LEGION
361
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Posted - 2013.09.15 03:49:00 -
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I want one with 1.5. After all, they're changing everything... Removing half our modules, changing the way vehicles work. It's a little more significant than a few CPU from CalLogi. |
KA24DERT
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
118
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:19:00 -
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Nelo Angel0 wrote:Mobius Kaethis wrote:None, because respecing doesn't force you to:
A) Deal with the fact that you've made mistakes
B) Destroys the feeling of permenancy currently associated with your choices which makes you really consider each choice deeply before you jump in.
C) Deprives you of the learning and sometimes joy when you find out that an accidentally/mistakenly bought skillpoint is actually quite useful.
I'd also like to point out that any respec is destructive to the game since all players will just constantly spec into the flavor of the moment destroying any semblance of play style diversity.
Respecs for AUR are awful because they promote a pay to win environment (see previous FOTM comment) and respects for large isk amounts give a huge advantage to the rich vets.
In summary, respecs are an awful idea and CCP has said there will be no more of them anyway so just give up on it. The rest of us are tired of verbally thrashing you for wanting a respec. I also want to clarify that this thread isn't for people to complain about respecs. This is a thread to discuss what system the majority of us that DO want it can agree on.
Nope, sorry.
Then it'll look like there's more support than there actually is for a feature that shouldn't exist. It's threads like these that got people fixated on the overly complicated "rollover sp" idea, when the best solution was to have no cap at all.
Respecs are a bad idea, and it should be challenged wherever it pops up. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command
Caldari State
910
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:21:00 -
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None. It breaks the skill system.
But, just to answer your question, a yearly respec for 20k AUR.
But, preferably not at all.
Break the idea of consequence behind the skill system |
Ivar Iosef
G I A N T
EoN.
10
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:32:00 -
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To those that say "respec when everything is out"....
You don't know CCP. That won't ever happen. They are always adding new things, and they aren't going to give you a respec just because you're bored. Grind the SP and think about what you've done.
No respec, ever. Only refunds due to skill-tinkering Devs. |
Gods Architect
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
433
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Posted - 2013.09.15 04:35:00 -
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why are all these scrubs wanting respecs. We had one, if you don't like what you got man up, work hard, get that SP up and get what you want. Stop with the easy way out |
SlyFrenzy
Paladin Survey Force
Amarr Empire
13
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:45:00 -
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we get 1 refund tokens every 6 months for a cost of 25 million isk each token
-it can only refund one skill only no matter what level.
-if you brought one token but didn't use it will be gone after a month.
-if you decide to use it your passive sp gain will be halved for a month.
I would like to see this type of respec system.
Your thoughts? |
Kekklian Noobatronic
Goonfeet
Top Men.
442
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:47:00 -
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EVE players get a remap of their core skills on a yearly basis.
While not their skills on the whole, for a FPS such as this, perhaps a yearly remap wouldn't be too bad? Maybe every 6 mo.? Thats a long time in terms of a game like this. CoD replaces it's games with a new edition yearly. While DUST may not go that route, expecting people to be playing 1-2 years from now is unlikely, at best. Need to work within that time frame. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Turalyon 514
Turalyon Alliance
3264
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:48:00 -
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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:EVE players get a remap of their core skills on a yearly basis.
While not their skills on the whole, for a FPS such as this, perhaps a yearly remap wouldn't be too bad? Maybe every 6 mo.? Thats a long time in terms of a game like this. CoD replaces it's games with a new edition yearly. While DUST may not go that route, expecting people to be playing 1-2 years from now is unlikely, at best. Need to work within that time frame.
Not quite correct.
They get a remap of their attributes, which affect how fast skills are trained. |
Athena Sentinel
Villore Sec Ops
Gallente Federation
25
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:50:00 -
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SlyFrenzy wrote:we get 1 refund tokens every 6 months for a cost of 25 million isk each token
-it can only refund one skill only no matter what level.
-if you brought one token but didn't use it will be gone after a month.
-if you decide to use it your passive sp gain will be halved for a month.
I would like to see this type of respec system.
Your thoughts?
There is really no difference between respec and boosters - as far as SP goes.
I think this system would work and maybe with less restrictions. Respecing on Dust is a must. To point a fact there would be less EVE dropouts if they could respec also.
CCP this is something that gimps your SP system. You want us to play what we enjoy but limit the ability to explore all the game has to offer to play what we enjoy... You support only hardcore players with the current system.
I suggest you explore out of the BOX and think again about a respec system. |
DaddyKillsEmAll
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
98
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Posted - 2013.09.15 21:52:00 -
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XxWarlordxX97 wrote:The MAG respec system
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