If I have profile dampening lvl5 and an adv dampener can I avoid adv scanners?

NOT TRUE

we just proved that passive scanning works.

Yes. Yes, you do. Aim for the advanced though. I don't think the basic is worth it.

I just tried basic and it's turned my world around...

It gets better? My god, it's full of stars....

I know it works, I mean *relatively* useless. Compared to 100m radius, 360 degree, 36db precision x 16-second illumination time active scans, which require 1 equip slot and no modules, passive scans are not particularly useful.

Is there a channel for those interested in furthering our scanning knowledge?

I have my profile dampeners to proto and I was getting scanned in a suit that I *thought* would be able to dodge the 28dB scanners - according to the Dust Fitting Tool I'm at 27dB with a medium frame and complex+enhanced dampeners. When I switched to two complexes, I was able to dodge the scans, so I don't think a Duvolle Focused was being used.

I'd like to test this definitely if anyone has time to queue sync this Saturday and has proto scanners unlocked.

I'm also curious as to whether one enhanced dampener with Lvl 5 in the skill (36dB for medium suits) will allow you to dodge the 36dB advanced scanner. We can test that too :)

I was looking through the market yesterday and it seems that CCP has changed the logistics suit to have the same profile and precision of assault and medium suits.

I swear all I was seeing yesterday was 50/50.

I timed the cool downs for all of the active scanners and put them in a spreadsheet(along with the rest of the data).

The Duvolle Focused and CreoDron Flux scanners have horrific cool down times.

Rule number 4: Heavies only see other suits if they are looking right at them. You can fix this with modules but that would be stupid. Just tape a scout to your helmet and let him look around for you. Scouts are small and weak so one roll of duct tape should work.

I timed the cool downs for all of the active scanners and put them in a spreadsheet(along with the rest of the data).

The Duvolle Focused and CreoDron Flux scanners have horrific cool down times.

On Avoiding Meta 8 Scanners:

Debugged our earlier maths and progressions. Thanks to Void and Marauder for pointing out my error on stacking percentage bonus. So here's the updated breakdown (by level):

Level 5 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(2) + 1 Bsc Dampener = 27.54 dB
Level 4 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(3) + 1 Enh Dampener = 27.07 dB
Level 3 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 1 Enh Dampener = 27.54 dB
Level 2 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 1 Cmp Dampener = 27.34 dB
Level 1 Scouts: Profile Dampening Lvl(5) + 2 Bsc Dampener = 27.80 dB
Light-Frames: Profile Dampening Lvl(3) + 2 Enh Dampener = 27.07 dB

* Still awaiting feedback regarding Equivalent Profile/Precision (tie goes to the runner?):
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=106274

Warning!
These are super-close to 28 dB, and we still don't know if a tie goes to the runner...can't hurt to put another point into Dampening just to be safe.

Observation:
It likely makes more long-term sense to skill further into Scout Suits than to max out Profile Dampening.

- Shotty

Remembered one test: active scanners do not make you appear on the enemy TACNET. I think this was intended at one point.

I'd swear an active scanner, even just a basic (what I work with currently) really turns a battle around - I mean, the number of times I run a sweep, then watch as all the blue dots suddenly swing around on some incoming red dot - if I got even just 10 WP once per minute for scan assisted kills, I'd get a fair bit of WPs!

They should recommend active scanners to new players - makes the learning curve MUCH gentler, IMO! Would retain more players!

Last build if you didn't have a squad then every unsquadded player on your team was considered to be your squad(just no orbitals). Whether this remains the same I have no idea.

I think this is another buggy feature, like uplinks being squad only but not really. Yesterday I spent some time as a lone wolf and suddenly saw a pack of reds appear on my TACNET, pulsing from someone else's scan.

Did you test using a basic profile dampener on a medium suit to avoid detection from standard scanners?

I know the numbers are supposed to add up. The scan profile should be 45 dB and the scan precision should be 46 dB, but when I tested this for a few days I never managed to avoid a scan.

Maybe everyone is using advanced scanners because they have too much CPU/PG....

Just saw this and thought it was very informative: