So let us together propose how uplinks should be used, then how positives and negatives on how the uplinks can be shaped to fit this role!!

I personally think an uplink is about a form of tactical insertion, and under the grid method, its something you give to a scout to drop in enemy terriroty, when a dropship cant make it there, or would make to much noise!! What do you think an uplink should be?

I'm not prepared to slog half way through the map just to get shot and repeat again. Uplinks are the only thing making the action tense and interesting. Without direct spawning it will be a constant search for the enemy with little actually happening.
At best all you'd get is:
capture objective
wait for enemy to mass numbers
they fail as you hold the ground
and then a longer wait as they regroup and try another avenue which will also likely fail.

Even DS's only hold 1/3 of the team and you'll hold the depots so you'll just shoot them out the sky the moment they're in view. They'll loose too many on entry

Some of the most epic battles I've ever been in was because the enemy had uplinks so the pressure was constant and ever changing.

You would have to place a short time limit on the uplinks to give them this property without letting them be used the way they are now. If you try to limit them by spawns they will just be tossed in greater numbers.

The timer would probably have to be on the order of 20-30 seconds, enough for someone to toss it and have the insertion team make the jump. Of course you'd have to be able to use the link without having died or it would be next to impossible to get your insertion team together. If you don't do that uplinks are useless for tactical insertion.

The reason they are used as regular supply lines is that people die randomly.

Yes you would need static jump points, also you could add the interial dampner animation (or revived animation, same thing) to discourage use on the front line, different variations which sacrifice, number active to allow for a greater number of jumps would then be viable for behind the front line instant supply but the lack of active ones creates a bottleneck. I mean a proto with 75 jumps and short spawn time is a little ridiculous, don't you think!!

This would be combated by the addition for extra cru's the new maps are a very good example of how the cru's become a forward drop point, how you need cru's both next and around an objective, how the cru's become more of an assest then just a few extra wp for hacking it!!

Yeah right CRU's... Sure im going to spawn on something thats beeing camped the whole day long and can be destroyed by a tank. No thanks i prefer my drop uplinks in tactical positions. And im not throwing away easy 1000WP on a domination match. Seriously people are only mad cause they didnt invested into proto uplinks which is in my opinion their fault not mine. Im not trading my drop uplinks for CRU's cause i can spawn on objective based game modes in 5 secs instead of 10 and on ambush its allways 3 secs regardless what uplink i use.

Removing objective spawning: Sure. (Just don't remove ground base)
Removing Drop Uplinks: No, it definitely needs to have heavy limitations but probably a lower profile as well, to prevent spam but make it worth the haul to carry one and place strategically.

I understand Skihids that you of all people respect transportation and what not but that would only work if you removed all the turret installations too. Then we'd have to add them back but as purchasable and useable items. It's all very far down the line work. If we removed all of it, as you propose, DS would become one way taxis heavily, and be shot out of the sky by people jumping to the nearest turrets to counter the inevitable.

It's great but I'd say return to this after 1.5 when vehicle stuff gets reworked. I understand the need to bring supply lines to this game, after all once you have an objective, all you must do is spawn there rather than put effort into securing routes and what not. But wait until we see how vehicles turn out. If the DS gets worse, or LAVs too, then I'd turn this idea straight down since there would be no viable way to get to objectives.

It appears that CCP will be eliminating deployed equipment upon a suit change, so let's just eliminate uplinks along with objective spawning.

Return the SP I sunk into uplinks and I'll spend it on dropships to transport.

Have you got a source for this?

As long as there are uplinks there won't be any vehicular transport.

Teleportation trumps taking a car or bus.

If people want drop ships to be transports you need to eliminate uplinks.

implying that you to kill yourself every time you want to get somewhere fast. cut DUs and all you will see are more redline games

the OP says he wants DUs removed... but in the thread he's defending them... such a troll!

the OP says he wants DUs removed... but in the thread he's defending them... such a troll!

What? This is a really bad idea...I can think of 10 different reasons:
1. Uplinks provide WP for LOGIs and anyone else willing to carry them
2. Knowing where the enemy is going to spawn is OP
3. Variable spawn times is often a deciding factor in a match
4. Support your squad, drop an uplink
5. Support your team, drop an uplink
6. CRUS can be destroyed, leaving a team with the MCC and nothing else to spawn in
7. Only the enemy hates my Uplinks
8. Tactical spawning
9. I enjoy having the option to return to a link I place to support the team when/if I die to attack again, and again
10. Uplinks are easily destroyed, if you don't like it you can kill them with a nade or your primary weapon

i doubt that players will kill them selves on purpose and lose a full proto suit....

just to spawn in on an objective that is already being hacked....

uplink zerging is pretty much the only thing that makes objectives hard to take...

majority of the time a player can sneak up to an objective hack the cru then take an objective while solo....


the over whelming force is essentialy caused by mass amounts of players spawning in on uplinks and the cru while the team defending the objective can be over whelmed quickly...if they dont set any ambush points/ killzones..


objective spawning cant realy be camped since u will spawn in random places at an objective..

this gives any1 spawning at an objective the ability to try to defend or run away and hack some other objective..


but with seeing how zerg tactics work so great on here objective spawning should stay...


most teams will rush for the center point then move ahead...

and if you r having trouble trying to take a certain objective then that mean that the other enemy objective dont have as many players spawning/ defending them which will allow your team to sneak around and hack those objectives and then completely swarm that one single objective...

all this idea would seem to do is create more redline matches...

and redline matches r the most annoying matches...

by the fact that there is nothing to really shoot at while the other team is redlined...

or if you r being redlined..then that means u pretty much have no chance at turning the battles around...

and so majority of your team when in that position will start sniping....

dropships r killed so easily its not funny..

and since turrets r now aggressive thats even much less reason to bring out a derpship..

at anytime other than the start of the match...

the cru can be destroyed but seeing how rendering distance is horrible on tanks now u will have to get in close just to see that large cru with a rail turret......

this really only makes skirmishes more annoying. since if we couldnt spawn on any of the objectives.

we would have to spawn from the redzone over and over again....

and run that same long distance to the first objective...

1.5 will bring WP's for dropship transport and should make the dropship capable of making the trip without being destroyed.

If you keep objective and DU spawning nobody will wait at the taxi stand for the dropship ride.

With those gone dropship pilots can finally act as the troop transports that every infantry player claims is their main mission when they complained about the dropship being used as an attack ship.

It would be rather hypocritical of the player base to be so adamant about dropships being for transport and then turn around and demand spawn mechanisms that obviate the need for that transport.

People die quite frequently so they don't have to suicide. The vast majority of travel is by DU or objective spawning in Skirmish.

The people have spoken and this is what they want.

sounds like pubmatchproblems to me.

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If we get dropship proxy chat I can inform everyone where we are going and what objective we are attacking.

There are so many good things that can come from eliminating objective spawns and uplinks.