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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:55:00 -
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My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not).
What's your opinion?
*no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:57:00 -
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DS3 but only because the grenade button on the kb/m is an awkward place, and being a Logi, I use it as my secondary weapon when my sidearm and primary run out of ammo. |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:06:00 -
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Get rid of DS3 and KB/M. Oculus Rift only. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:10:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please*
Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs.
Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude. |
Rynoceros
Rise of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:12:00 -
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Not a fan of using KBM on a console. It's impure. Sacrilege.
But, I really don't care what you're using, you're going to get shot the **** up if you come ******* around in my 'hood.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:13:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude.
You're absolutely right, but why penalizing ds3 with such a low sensitivity too? and why such a slow rotation speed? a 100/100 here is like 50/50 on MAG and 10/10 on BF3... |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:16:00 -
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You have a more-than-competent aim assist to compensate for any sensitivity issues you are having right now.
If you want the sensitivity to be faster, than I am sure that is possible in the future if it is requested enough.
But it is hardly punishment for playing against kb/m.
KB/M simply gets faster turn speed at the moment because if it was any slower, your mouse would go flying off the desk every time you tried to make a quick rotation. Your arm can only stretch so far with limited desk/table space. |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z
Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:17:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude. You're absolutely right, but why penalizing ds3 with such a low sensitivity too? and why such a slow rotation speed? a 100/100 here is like 50/50 on MAG and 10/10 on BF3...
the DS3 controls are about 70-80% right where as the KB/M is 100% ****** up currently, you cant aim for **** with the sensitivity at 100000000000000000000000000000 ADS |
M McManus
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:19:00 -
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You people that make these vs threads are pretty ignorant to the current facts..
Dust kb/m is nothing but an emulated DS3 without aimbot...
Dust DS3 is superior in everyway due to the balanced sensitivity and built in aimbot..
Not to mention the only people I see bitching about kb/m being superior are the .20 kdr and who still can't aim using the DS3 post aimbot...
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Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:23:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude.
Which Third party controls do they allow though? Which gaming communities? |
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:24:00 -
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M McManus wrote:You people that make these vs threads are pretty ignorant to the current facts..
Dust kb/m is nothing but an emulated DS3 without aimbot...
Dust DS3 is superior in everyway due to the balanced sensitivity and built in aimbot..
Not to mention the only people I see bitching about kb/m being superior are the .20 kdr and who still can't aim using the DS3 post aimbot...
k then, I'm a 4.20 kdr that can actually aim using the ds3 pre aimbot. Built in aimbot does not work anymore. |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:25:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude. Which Third party controls do they allow though? Which gaming communities?
oh, I clearly remember that using fragfx (ps3/xbox emulated mouse) on Metal Gear Online was considered cheating. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:25:00 -
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PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
http://www.penguinunitedstore.com/products/Eagle-Eye-Converter-for-Playstation-3.html
so its not like it really changes much having the kb/m supported. Its nice of CCP to allow someone to use their preferred peripheral on a game without having to go out and spend 60 bux though.
One day we wont need a physical control device to play our games it will just be our hands or a virtual device.... and it will really be down to your imagination on what control input you use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXiImb5BzGE |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:31:00 -
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Wait so how is kb/m superior ever since Uprising the KB/M has blown in the sensitivity and responsiveness category ?
DS3 has aim assist still, whats all this about aim assist being gone ? I played today and AA was still sucking my cross hairs towards my targets like whoa..! |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:34:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:36:00 -
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Always kind of funny in a pathetic way when you see people trying to say a mouse isnt mechanically and objectively superior to an analog stick in a FPS |
Saxbrin Shain
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:37:00 -
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I was a hardcore KB+M gamer when I was younger, and this all but destroyed my mousing wrist. I've since switched to trackballs and digitizer tablets just to be able to work through the week.
I can only game with controllers now. As long as it doesn't give them too great of an advantage, I don't care if people use KB+M to play a console game GÇö I simply can't. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:39:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons.
People already do use them..... just costs them 60 bux in hardware... and you can even map your keys, and setup multiple key maps.... quickly changeable.
The idea that Mouse and Keyboard is some revolutionary peripheral here to make pad's useless.....
Sadly KB/M is on its way out too.... we are all playing on peripheral's older then a majority of us are in reality.... virtual will be the wave of the future. |
Synbot
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
70
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:55:00 -
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ummmmmm noooooo
Ps3 motion controllers is where it's at cause duuuuuhhhh |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:55:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons. People already do use them..... just costs them 60 bux in hardware... and you can even map your keys, and setup multiple key maps.... quickly changeable.
Ok, then let me reformulate:
Is it fair in your opinion?
Imo, it would be "pretty fair" on BF3 where sensitivity is high and controls are responsive. What about here on Dust? |
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Starfire Revo
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:15:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Always kind of funny in a pathetic way when you see people trying to say a mouse isnt mechanically and objectively superior to an analog stick in a FPS
While this is pretty much the case most of the time, 1.4 broke aiming down sight for the Mouse. Currently doing this makes the turn rate increase to something like 200% (instead of reducing it for accuracy). I can live with the other problems M&K has in Dust, since it somewhat balances against the advantages pad users have but the problems with ADS means we can't use a large amount of the strongest weapons in the game. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:23:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons. People already do use them..... just costs them 60 bux in hardware... and you can even map your keys, and setup multiple key maps.... quickly changeable. Ok, then let me reformulate: Is it fair in your opinion? Imo, it would be "pretty fair" on BF3 where sensitivity is high and controls are responsive. What about here on Dust?
That question is redundant... Simple fact : the leaderboards and the best players considered in this game are 95% DS3... fact.
Before any stupid aim assist. and even when raw input was given to mouse users in chromes.
The simple fact between the two peripheral's is there is two MASSIVELY different learning curves between the peripheral's.
DS3 and pad's are generally more user friendly.. easier to learn on... more forgiving and quicker learning curve.... more comfortable... and more easy to blame it's fault's for your screw up's(my own problem).
Mouse and keyboard... Though you have more precision with a mouse starting out of the gate its learning curve is imense... it takes most KB/M users.. a very long time to even become on the same level as even the average Pad user.
Is KB/M superior in the most few Elite's hands? yes..... Is it in general population? no.. not a chance... a player will excel on what makes them comfortable... and what they have spent their time learning on.
Facts as far as DUST 514 is concerned simply blow the KB/M superiority idea out of the water... But it sounds good emulated here from other forums.
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xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:33:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
Simple fact : the leaderboards and the best players considered in this game are 95% DS3... fact.
Before any stupid aim assist. and even when raw input was given to mouse users in chromes.
Can't really say it from the leader boards, but I tell you that a good 80% of the best players i know are kb/m users.
There must be a reason if it's a PS3 game and leader boards are ruled by kb/m users. Or at least, let's say, my personal leader board. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:36:00 -
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Starfire Revo wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Always kind of funny in a pathetic way when you see people trying to say a mouse isnt mechanically and objectively superior to an analog stick in a FPS While this is pretty much the case most of the time, 1.4 broke aiming down sight for the Mouse. Currently doing this makes the turn rate increase to something like 200% (instead of reducing it for accuracy). I can live with the other problems M&K has in Dust, since it somewhat balances against the advantages pad users have but the problems with ADS means we can't use a large amount of the strongest weapons in the game.
CCP has been talking about players having the ability to set their own sensitivity for hipfire and LDS since uprising launched... Was something that was mentioned first when they where discussing 1.5
Hopefully something they will add as it will improve everyone's games... snipers most of all i would think. |
LCB Holdings
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:39:00 -
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kb/m is superior, macros. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:41:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:
Simple fact : the leaderboards and the best players considered in this game are 95% DS3... fact.
Before any stupid aim assist. and even when raw input was given to mouse users in chromes.
Can't really say it from the leader boards, but I tell you that a good 80% of the best players i know are kb/m users. There must be a reason if it's a PS3 game and leader boards are ruled by kb/m users. Or at least, let's say, my personal leader board.
Your living on a rare island most KB/M users are that island in their corp or group. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:43:00 -
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Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim |
xxwhitedevilxx M
Maphia Clan Corporation
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:45:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim
They tuned it down hard, now it just worsen your aim. |
hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:51:00 -
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xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim They tuned it down hard, now it just worsen your aim.
Really? I just switched over to controller an hour ago and the AI and AA are extremely noticeable... |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:54:00 -
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Ban both!
PS Move only... |
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