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xxwhitedevilxx M
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Posted - 2013.09.13 01:55:00 -
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My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not).
What's your opinion?
*no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:13:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude.
You're absolutely right, but why penalizing ds3 with such a low sensitivity too? and why such a slow rotation speed? a 100/100 here is like 50/50 on MAG and 10/10 on BF3... |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:24:00 -
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M McManus wrote:You people that make these vs threads are pretty ignorant to the current facts..
Dust kb/m is nothing but an emulated DS3 without aimbot...
Dust DS3 is superior in everyway due to the balanced sensitivity and built in aimbot..
Not to mention the only people I see bitching about kb/m being superior are the .20 kdr and who still can't aim using the DS3 post aimbot...
k then, I'm a 4.20 kdr that can actually aim using the ds3 pre aimbot. Built in aimbot does not work anymore. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:25:00 -
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Minor Treat wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:My opinion is that Keyboard and Mouse should not be allowed on a ps3 game, or at least, should be balanced (at the moment it's not). What's your opinion? *no rage, "git gud scrub" etc please* Every other gaming community and genre in existence allows third party control types in competition and casual play alike. It does not matter if they are superior or inferior. The only strictly banned devices are ones that literally play the game for you with pre-programmed inputs. Console FPS community needs to get with the times about this issue. You guys are not moving the industry forward with this draconic attitude. Which Third party controls do they allow though? Which gaming communities?
oh, I clearly remember that using fragfx (ps3/xbox emulated mouse) on Metal Gear Online was considered cheating. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:34:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 02:55:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:Bethhy wrote:PS4 is fully KB/M supported.... People already use
PS3 do fully support kb/m too. You just can't use them in some games (mostly online) for obvious reasons. People already do use them..... just costs them 60 bux in hardware... and you can even map your keys, and setup multiple key maps.... quickly changeable.
Ok, then let me reformulate:
Is it fair in your opinion?
Imo, it would be "pretty fair" on BF3 where sensitivity is high and controls are responsive. What about here on Dust? |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:33:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:
Simple fact : the leaderboards and the best players considered in this game are 95% DS3... fact.
Before any stupid aim assist. and even when raw input was given to mouse users in chromes.
Can't really say it from the leader boards, but I tell you that a good 80% of the best players i know are kb/m users.
There must be a reason if it's a PS3 game and leader boards are ruled by kb/m users. Or at least, let's say, my personal leader board. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 03:45:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim
They tuned it down hard, now it just worsen your aim. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:04:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim They tuned it down hard, now it just worsen your aim. Really? I just switched over to controller an hour ago and the AI and AA are extremely noticeable...
Only noticeable with laser for me. AA keep "track" (not magnetism) for much less time (let's say a second or two), while it's tracking you adjust your aim with much lower sensitivity, but suddenly it goes off and you're aiming elsewhere. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:27:00 -
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DootDoot wrote:xxwhitedevilxx M wrote:hackerzilla wrote:Right now DS3 is king because of aim assist and auto aim They tuned it down hard, now it just worsen your aim. Pretty much called yourself out there... Its instant noticeable to anyone who does a majority of their own aiming... its literally like a toggled hack i just have to give basic input's to get result's from... "I can barely notice AA you guys are just QQ" "Aim assist doesn't move your aim what are you talking about?!?!" can go on forever about the oblivious people talking about training wheel's being needed to compete in a multiplayer game where loss's have real impact on personal wealth. Go back to your bubblegum shooter where you think that 50 bux bought into a title should give you a reason to kill someone that is just better then you, not your own ability and your fine with that. Me personally? I want to get to the point where my personal skill can kill people in a gunfight Vs Chicagocubsforever and Regnyum and all those bastardly Djinn's.... I Don't need their skill dulled by some aim assist when i get there... i want it me vs them.... Not Me = aim assist + them + aim assist... its the stupidest concept defended by people who can't aim....
I was giving you a great reasoning, but then...why should i do that? it's like talking to a wall. You want a fair fight? ok then, no aa and no other support except ds3, shall we? |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:29:00 -
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McFurious wrote:I'm fine with DS3 having aim assist. Just give me back Chromosome mouse aiming.
Mouse aiming has been wonky ever since Uprising. You got it right once before already CCP, so just go back to that.
I'm actually not fine with AA. What I think is that it's needed because tracking with a ds3 is sht. |
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:56:00 -
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Doc Noah wrote:Assuming CCP plans to give full proper functionality to kb/m, analog controllers wont even be in the same league.
Proper kb/m would mean:
-More diverse sensitivity options
-Customizable keybinds
-Removal of the gamepad emulator and allowing raw mouse input
-Better compatability with PS3
-Removal of max suit turn speed (not sure if this still exists but I imagine a kb/m user can still turn pretty fast or even spin 360 in a fraction of a second)
Game developers themselves admit that, even if they could, they would never put console users against PC users (something CCP cant figure out why yet) because it wouldnt be fair. The fact that every console shooter has an aim assist speaks volumes in itself.
This thread doesnt even ask a proper question as the answer is already clear.
It's a game design fault, up to now, they can't change their tack, because any decision they make will make a certain group of people unhappy. |
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:04:00 -
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hgghyujh wrote:so you used the point of view of pc gamers that they hate controllers for your argument that kbm is op???
Not really, i just used reviews made by others (maybe more "prepared" than me) to validate my point. It's the same "beef" happening on FFXIV ARR forums; people are not accepting ds3 healers because it's a "disadvantage". But that's not really a problem because FFIV is a computer game ported to ps3, and anyway you can still play well with any other class except healer.
Now, on Dust514, it's an fps and a ps3 exclusive, why the sudden need of a kb/m support? Didn't you guys recognize that this is repelling, among with really bad DS3 feeling PS3 players from this game? |
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:36:00 -
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Vin Vicious wrote:If kb/m is so much better than DS3 then use a kb/m
Incoming "but but this is on a console, so only DS3 should be used" Whiny comment
That's cool, you can also use a controller on a computer too.
It's your fault your using the less "superior" input device
Don't bring a knife to a gun fight
The day kb/m support is gone is the day this game dies FYI
Ill bet Vin Vicious on it
Simply? Never used Kb/m to play any game. As many other PS3 gamers. It would take ages before PS3 players get used to it, and istead of "adapting or die" people just left. That's why. |
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Posted - 2013.09.14 19:43:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Neither.
Go Frag FX Shark baby! Best of both worlds.
Re tried now. Yes, I'll Use fragfx shark from now on and i wish I had a capture card to show you my "improvements" (not really "my", but because of my frag). Feel free to call me cheater, until ccp fix this gap, I hope more people come here on the forums and cry about my fragfx. |
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Posted - 2013.09.14 20:00:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Sure would be nice to get some Dev input on if anything will be done in 1.5 to bring the kb/m up to speed...
what? it wouldn't be nice at all. It would be nice if they gave ds3 players 500% the turning speed we have now and an imperceptible analog stick dead zone.
You're acting like those who asked for a buff of the flylock instead of a nerf :/ |
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