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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2781	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:40:00 - [1] - Quote Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic!
dustwaffle Ill Omens 483	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:45:00 - [2] - Quote Meh, just means more capping in space to turn those around
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2781	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:47:00 - [3] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Meh, just means more capping in space to turn those around Pssh, good luck I say. I've done it before and I still don't have the patience xD
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 772	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:11:00 - [4] - Quote they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 333	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:18:00 - [5] - Quote Was there a push of some sort? I always saw things favoring Gallente and Minmatar but never as now. We (i fight for those 2 factions) just obliterated them.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2782	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:19:00 - [6] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift I've ruined a few lives with tactical strikes from Orbit. Mostly Amarr, but some Caldari too =D
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2782	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:20:00 - [7] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Was there a push of some sort? I always saw things favoring Gallente and Minmatar but never as now. We (i fight for those 2 factions) just obliterated them. ANONYMOUS always supported the Gallente/Minmatar and we occasionally provide orbital support for our guys. There's been a lot of talk back and forth with some of the more organized groups and essentially we just worked in tandem to secure a solid foot hold. Despite a few errant bugs that put us on the enemy team >_>;

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115768	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:49:00 - [8] - Quote This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4230	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:02:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 275	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:06:00 - [10] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff....


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115774	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:10:00 - [11] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1314	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote Give higher isk payout to the side that needs more people or better quality troops this is quite effective in planet side can't see it would not work here. Can be explained by the empires getting desperate or backroom corps trying to influence the war
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 211	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:13:00 - [13] - Quote As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115774	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:15:00 - [14] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 333	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:16:00 - [15] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Do it.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3420	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:17:00 - [16] - Quote I think there was an eve side push from the minmatar not long ago, don't know anything about the gallente side though.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 710	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:20:00 - [17] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Can you at least give us access to the militia channels for now? Even though I guess that would be problematic, because we don't have to pledge allegiance for one side in Dust. But maybe consider it for the future, when you introduce standings. maybe something like "Standing at least 5 and you get access to the militia channel of that faction"
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:21:00 - [18] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I was thinking that you could have a couple of stages that districts go through in FW. Stage A: FW Domination/Ambush: If attackers win, the district is reinforced and defenders fight the next battle as a skirmish with 25% less clones. If attackers are routed, the next battle still is another Domination/Ambush. Stage B: FW Skirmish: If attackers win, the district changes hands. If defenders win, the next battle is a domination/ambush match. Stage A battles would be initiated on the Dust side against any hostile district. If your squad attacks a district you would be fighting for the enemey of the district's ownsers. If successful, you then queue that district for a stage B battle, as if it was being scored like people were running plexes in it. The fewer 'Stage B' battles occuring, the more likely a Stage A battle will occur, leading to more Stage B battles. Stage B battles would take priority for spawning fights, over Stage A battles. And attackers would need to win 2 battles in a row to flip a district. However, they could fight unlimited FW Domination/Ambush matches that would be appropriate as they could be spawned to 'intercept'. So you could potentially have many more battles with this mechanic, and it would also be a way to dynamically affect the amount of 'offensive matches' without negating the need for Eve players to do their thing.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1314	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:22:00 - [19] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Omg this sounds awsome and a fair better way of doing OS strikes
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2783	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:24:00 - [20] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Going to have to make it interesting for the Eve players, sitting up there waiting for an orbital gets boring as the dickens when you're not down on the ground seeing what's going on. Even then if they do get an orbital, the only warning/notice you get is a sudden appearance of a duster in your target window - at which point by the time you notice (if you're not watching at that exact moment) the place they need the orbital is already cleared out.


CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115777	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:25:00 - [21] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Omg this sounds awsome and a fair better way of doing OS strikes You can see a discussion we had on the forums just a little while ago about orbital strikes here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100548 Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:31:00 - [22] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I typed this post to offer a solution and it disappeared... But basically generate 2 stages to FW. Stage A (Recon-Ambush OMS/Domination): Recon battles are randomly spawned throughout the FW zones regardless of Eve pilot plexing, but they have a lower priority of spawning. Recon battles are either Ambush OMS or Domination battles. If the enemy of the district owners win the recon, then an Assault (Stage B) battle is started. Otherwise, defenders keep the district. Stage B (Assault-Skirmish): This is what we have right now. However it creates the predicament listed above. All that changes is that an attacker's "Recon" is generated through Dust activity can be repelled or successful which then generates an assault. -Plexing in a system is most likely to cause a Stage B battle in that system. -Successful 'Recons' by infantry attackers then also lead to Stage B battles. -The more 'Recons' won in a system by attackers, the more likely Stage B battles will occur in nearby surrounding districts. -Successful 'Recons' by defenders have no effect on future stage B spawns. -If you are queueing for the winning side in a faction you will be more likely to get Stage A battles. -If you are queuing for the losing side in a faction warfare match your faction will continue to get Stage A battles until your Eve allies are more aggressive or they win more stage A matches.
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:33:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! For the federation! so far we gallenten heros have shown these caldari scum thier rightful place..... AT THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEELS!
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:35:00 - [24] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:36:00 - [25] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr It would be nice to hear from the devs on this one, but it is more than likely that this is a function of higher value isk items destroyed in battle, not BECAUSE the FW corps pay more.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 211	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:36:00 - [26] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Sorry, but debauchery and scraps will never truly beat merit and adamance. Quote: With Caldari State Executor Tibus Heth awarding the entire Caldari State Protectorate militia with the Distinguished Blade, a national medal of recognition for their successful offensive against the Gallente, it was certainly true that the Provists could make a strong case for the Caldari military being safe under their policies.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 521	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:37:00 - [27] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift Ahem
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:57:00 - [28] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Sorry, but debauchery and scraps will never truly beat merit and adamance. Quote: With Caldari State Executor Tibus Heth awarding the entire Caldari State Protectorate militia with the Distinguished Blade, a national medal of recognition for their successful offensive against the Gallente, it was certainly true that the Provists could make a strong case for the Caldari military being safe under their policies. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=199272 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/galmedal.jpg/ hehe
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1228	Posted - 2013.09.12 12:57:00 - [29] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Most of your player base doesn't care about what this affects. Like others have said we are just trying to sync people into battles with multiple squads. We WANT TEAM DEPLOY!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1228	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:03:00 - [30] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr I notice zero difference. There's still people AFK or running to the redline at the first sign of resistance. I've even heard about people intentionally joining for sides they hate and AFKing to throw matches. FW could be so good if it was a bridge between pubs and PC from a player development standpoint. A place to play as a team while capping out instead of being forced to play a domination where your team of randoms has 8 snipers or 6 murder taxis contributing zero to the battle.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1237	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:30:00 - [31] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Shouldn't there be a massive number of districts to defend? If the Minmatar hold everything I'd think the Amarr would be 'coming for their... uh... people' only to find a wall of Mass Drivers. Personally, I can't wait to declare my loyalty and earn myself a Warrior of the Republic Medal to pin on my Valklear General uniform. https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Tribal_Liberation_Force_(NPC_corporation)#Valklear_General
Meknow Intaki Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo 27	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:34:00 - [32] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. I think it was the other way around http://themittani.com/news/gallente-get-their-medal
Nguruthos IX PEN 15 CLUB 1651	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:46:00 - [33] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. oops, lol So that'll mean once one side wins FW, it will remain uncontested! Yayyeee haha
Halfwings Warbringer ThislsWhyimhot 39	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:59:00 - [34] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. well cant balme us being fan of Gallente or Minmatar =D cause they are awsome long live Gallente!!
Eris Ernaga Super Nerds 551	Posted - 2013.09.12 14:08:00 - [35] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Liked all but the last part I like the war points orbital reward system as is.
Wallaby1 KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 8	Posted - 2013.09.12 14:08:00 - [36] - Quote caldari will remind eve why the smallest of the factions is to be the most feared! to ccp can i suggest you guys work on creating some faction backstory videos! the eve dust community loves stuff like that! and i feel there is very little inspiration for people to pick a side many people fight for GAYllente and minotaur simply because its an easy win , our caldari mercs need to be reminded WHY they need to defend their state!! =C= ONE STATE !
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 710	Posted - 2013.09.12 14:26:00 - [37] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Leave it to the players to break your code. You're welcome.
Severus Smith Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 331	Posted - 2013.09.12 15:10:00 - [38] - Quote I created a thread here that got some nice feedback, I'm posting it below to make sure you see it FoxFour. Faction Warfare needs some love. Some serious love. When I pitch DUST to my friends they all love the idea behind FW. That winning a match means something. That they just fought and won a battle to take a planet for someone. PC will be the end all of this, but for now FW needs to be the place everything gets worked out. Here are my opinions on what could revitalize Faction Warfare. 1. Standings - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When you fight a match for the Amarr against the Minmatar you should gain standing with the Amarr and lose standing with the Minmatar. Standings are like Reputation in other MMOs. 2. Planets, not Districts - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The Amarr don't want just 1 or 2 districts on Sosala V, they want the entire planet! Instead of us picking one district to fight over, we should pick a planet to fight over. Once selected we are put into FW matches to take the districts of that planet. The matches keep going until the entire planet is taken, or lost. This makes it so that when I log in I can be entertained for hours trying to defend Sosala V from the Minmatar, or conquer Floseswin IV for the Amarr. If the Amarr succeed in defending / conquering the planet I feel successful. This is what my friends who play CoD and BF find awesome, that they can play and take planets for a faction. And unlike PS2, where territory flips hourly, that planet may stay conquered for weeks or months. 3. Contract Levels - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - The higher your standings with a faction the better FW contracts you should have access too. There should be level 1, 2, 3 and 4 contracts. The higher the level the higher the standing requirement and the ISK reward. Level 1 contracts would be for planets in non-contested systems (low priority), while level 4 contracts would be for planets in hotly contested systems on the verge of flipping in EVE. Payouts would scale with the level. A level 1 contract may pay roughly 150K base, plus loot on victory. While a level 4 may pay 1.2 million, plus loot on victory. 4. Collateral - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To get into a FW match you must pay in some collateral. This ensures that people don't just join FW matches in crap gear to farm ISK. The collateral is based off of your gear losses. So for a level 1, you pay in 50K as collateral. If, at the end of the match you lost 55K in gear then you get your 50K collateral back. However, if you only lost 40K of gear then you only get 40K of your collateral back (the other 10K is kept). This makes players want to use better gear in FW matches; you are going to lose 50K somehow, it might as well be in gear. It also encourages teamwork, squads, and anything that means victory because you are going to lose at least your collateral in ISK, so to make money you need to win. The contracts payout on victory should be roughly 3x the collateral so that you are essentially doubling your money on a win. Level 1 = 50K collateral, 150K payout Level 2 = 100K collateral, 300K payout Level 3 = 200K collateral, 600K payout Level 4 = 400K collateral, 1.2M payout 5. Match Connections - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - There needs to be some connections between the different matches. I don't know exactly what (this one has been hard) but something that makes me call out to my corpmates who are in another match "Charlie, can you shut that f*ing artillery battery down!? We're getting fed over here!" or "Bravo, we're at the gate. How close are you on that hack? We need the door open ASAP." or from EVE "All squads, hostiles just appeared on grid. I need all the Skyfire batteries active now!". Maybe shield relays that could be taken out in 8 vs 8 Assault matches that help the main force in Skirmish. Or artillery batteries. Or reactors. Or anything... 6. Loyalty Points (LP)* Loyalty points could be rewarded on victory and allow for the purchase of Faction equipment, suits, vehicles, etc. Just like faction modules in EVE these would be stronger than Prototype modules (think current Officer) and thus highly valued. This gives even more incentive to play FW as they are only obtained through winning FW matches and gaining LP.
RydogV Shadow Company HQ 337	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:05:00 - [39] - Quote I would like the opportunity to queue sync more effectively with another Squad. It is pretty random now even when you are both selecting the same faction. Of course if the Squad Leader could effectively pull the entire Squad back out and retry for the battle the other Squad picked up then that would at least be a start. Isn't there a way to make Team available in the Merc Quarters that can allow more than one Squad to pair up. Then the designated Team Leader can enter the Battlefinder (with Instant Battle disabled) and take us into Faction Warfare as a group? I love to play Dust 514...but I don't like to play it without my friends.
Patrick57 GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 245	Posted - 2013.09.12 22:09:00 - [40] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. All I ever get when queuing for FW is Scotty



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