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Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2781	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:40:00 - [1] - Quote Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic!
dustwaffle Ill Omens 483	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:45:00 - [2] - Quote Meh, just means more capping in space to turn those around
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2781	Posted - 2013.09.12 09:47:00 - [3] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Meh, just means more capping in space to turn those around Pssh, good luck I say. I've done it before and I still don't have the patience xD
Chances Ghost Inf4m0us 772	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:11:00 - [4] - Quote they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 333	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:18:00 - [5] - Quote Was there a push of some sort? I always saw things favoring Gallente and Minmatar but never as now. We (i fight for those 2 factions) just obliterated them.
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2782	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:19:00 - [6] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift I've ruined a few lives with tactical strikes from Orbit. Mostly Amarr, but some Caldari too =D
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2782	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:20:00 - [7] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Was there a push of some sort? I always saw things favoring Gallente and Minmatar but never as now. We (i fight for those 2 factions) just obliterated them. ANONYMOUS always supported the Gallente/Minmatar and we occasionally provide orbital support for our guys. There's been a lot of talk back and forth with some of the more organized groups and essentially we just worked in tandem to secure a solid foot hold. Despite a few errant bugs that put us on the enemy team >_>;

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115768	Posted - 2013.09.12 10:49:00 - [8] - Quote This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4230	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:02:00 - [9] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 275	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:06:00 - [10] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff....

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115774	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:10:00 - [11] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1314	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:10:00 - [12] - Quote Give higher isk payout to the side that needs more people or better quality troops this is quite effective in planet side can't see it would not work here. Can be explained by the empires getting desperate or backroom corps trying to influence the war
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 211	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:13:00 - [13] - Quote As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115774	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:15:00 - [14] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 333	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:16:00 - [15] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Do it.
gbghg L.O.T.I.S. 3420	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:17:00 - [16] - Quote I think there was an eve side push from the minmatar not long ago, don't know anything about the gallente side though.
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 710	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:20:00 - [17] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Can you at least give us access to the militia channels for now? Even though I guess that would be problematic, because we don't have to pledge allegiance for one side in Dust. But maybe consider it for the future, when you introduce standings. maybe something like "Standing at least 5 and you get access to the militia channel of that faction"
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:21:00 - [18] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I was thinking that you could have a couple of stages that districts go through in FW. Stage A: FW Domination/Ambush: If attackers win, the district is reinforced and defenders fight the next battle as a skirmish with 25% less clones. If attackers are routed, the next battle still is another Domination/Ambush. Stage B: FW Skirmish: If attackers win, the district changes hands. If defenders win, the next battle is a domination/ambush match. Stage A battles would be initiated on the Dust side against any hostile district. If your squad attacks a district you would be fighting for the enemey of the district's ownsers. If successful, you then queue that district for a stage B battle, as if it was being scored like people were running plexes in it. The fewer 'Stage B' battles occuring, the more likely a Stage A battle will occur, leading to more Stage B battles. Stage B battles would take priority for spawning fights, over Stage A battles. And attackers would need to win 2 battles in a row to flip a district. However, they could fight unlimited FW Domination/Ambush matches that would be appropriate as they could be spawned to 'intercept'. So you could potentially have many more battles with this mechanic, and it would also be a way to dynamically affect the amount of 'offensive matches' without negating the need for Eve players to do their thing.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1314	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:22:00 - [19] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Omg this sounds awsome and a fair better way of doing OS strikes
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 2783	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:24:00 - [20] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Going to have to make it interesting for the Eve players, sitting up there waiting for an orbital gets boring as the dickens when you're not down on the ground seeing what's going on. Even then if they do get an orbital, the only warning/notice you get is a sudden appearance of a duster in your target window - at which point by the time you notice (if you're not watching at that exact moment) the place they need the orbital is already cleared out.

CCP FoxFour C C P C C P Alliance 115777	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:25:00 - [21] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I wish there was an easy , quick to access way to co-ordinate with eve pilots in factional warfare. Maybe we could really make a difference and start claiming planets. As it stands, we have no real way of knowing whats going on. Maybe allow dust corps or even individuals to take part in fighting for a select empire for a while (say a week campaign or something), there by sharing intel on targets to attack and stuff.... One of the big things I would like to do, and no promise on when, is give EVE pilots a "battle finder" of sorts that shows what battles are actively ongoing so they know where they can go do OB's, give them LP for doing OB's, and make it so that EVE players earn the OB by capturing an objective above the district. Omg this sounds awsome and a fair better way of doing OS strikes You can see a discussion we had on the forums just a little while ago about orbital strikes here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=100548 Game Designer // Team True Grit http://twitter.com/regnerba

Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:31:00 - [22] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. I typed this post to offer a solution and it disappeared... But basically generate 2 stages to FW. Stage A (Recon-Ambush OMS/Domination): Recon battles are randomly spawned throughout the FW zones regardless of Eve pilot plexing, but they have a lower priority of spawning. Recon battles are either Ambush OMS or Domination battles. If the enemy of the district owners win the recon, then an Assault (Stage B) battle is started. Otherwise, defenders keep the district. Stage B (Assault-Skirmish): This is what we have right now. However it creates the predicament listed above. All that changes is that an attacker's "Recon" is generated through Dust activity can be repelled or successful which then generates an assault. -Plexing in a system is most likely to cause a Stage B battle in that system. -Successful 'Recons' by infantry attackers then also lead to Stage B battles. -The more 'Recons' won in a system by attackers, the more likely Stage B battles will occur in nearby surrounding districts. -Successful 'Recons' by defenders have no effect on future stage B spawns. -If you are queueing for the winning side in a faction you will be more likely to get Stage A battles. -If you are queuing for the losing side in a faction warfare match your faction will continue to get Stage A battles until your Eve allies are more aggressive or they win more stage A matches.
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:33:00 - [23] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! For the federation! so far we gallenten heros have shown these caldari scum thier rightful place..... AT THE BOTTOM OF OUR HEELS!
Racro 01 Arifistan The Surrogates Of War 41	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:35:00 - [24] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:36:00 - [25] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr It would be nice to hear from the devs on this one, but it is more than likely that this is a function of higher value isk items destroyed in battle, not BECAUSE the FW corps pay more.
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 211	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:36:00 - [26] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Sorry, but debauchery and scraps will never truly beat merit and adamance. Quote: With Caldari State Executor Tibus Heth awarding the entire Caldari State Protectorate militia with the Distinguished Blade, a national medal of recognition for their successful offensive against the Gallente, it was certainly true that the Provists could make a strong case for the Caldari military being safe under their policies.
RuckingFetard Better Hide R Die 521	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:37:00 - [27] - Quote Chances Ghost wrote: they started it with all that "get gud" crap.... we minmatar anger easily and our vengance is swift Ahem
Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1558	Posted - 2013.09.12 11:57:00 - [28] - Quote Arx Ardashir wrote: CCP FoxFour wrote: Arx Ardashir wrote: As a 4 year FW veteran, let me tell you this: You don't win FW. Only CCP wins. The Caldari not too long ago swept their warzone and owned every system (meaning the Gallente owned 0) and got a nifty medal for it, but that's it. Supply starts to outweigh demand and the farmers move to the other side, as there's now a lot of pasture to graze in. Of course, that's all EVE-side worries, but since Dusters can't cap systems, EVE-side worries in FW are DUST-side worries. Pretty sure it was the Gallente that got the medal... but yes your point stands and is correct. It will be interesting to see how long this lasts. Sorry, but debauchery and scraps will never truly beat merit and adamance. Quote: With Caldari State Executor Tibus Heth awarding the entire Caldari State Protectorate militia with the Distinguished Blade, a national medal of recognition for their successful offensive against the Gallente, it was certainly true that the Provists could make a strong case for the Caldari military being safe under their policies. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=199272 http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/galmedal.jpg/ hehe
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1228	Posted - 2013.09.12 12:57:00 - [29] - Quote CCP FoxFour wrote: This is actually a problem as it means everyone queueing for just Gallente or Minmatar (or both those) will get the Scotty message since there is no district for them to attack... I think the code changelist description actually said something about how this would work great so long as one side didn't win total victory... woops... There are a few things we have planned to help with this but are not quite ready to discuss yet. We are working on it though. Most of your player base doesn't care about what this affects. Like others have said we are just trying to sync people into battles with multiple squads. We WANT TEAM DEPLOY!
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1228	Posted - 2013.09.12 13:03:00 - [30] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: Aeon Amadi wrote: Caldari have 2 districts Amarr have 3 districts Long live the Federation! Long live the Republic! Dont think most ppl care until FW is actually meaningful and actually allows team queing tbh lol FW gives out larger payouts i noticed compred to public contracts so i play FW battles for gallente and minmatarr I notice zero difference. There's still people AFK or running to the redline at the first sign of resistance. I've even heard about people intentionally joining for sides they hate and AFKing to throw matches. FW could be so good if it was a bridge between pubs and PC from a player development standpoint. A place to play as a team while capping out instead of being forced to play a domination where your team of randoms has 8 snipers or 6 murder taxis contributing zero to the battle.

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