It's clear that if you were so good at these ideas that you would somehow be involved within the gaming industry. Since you're not, please be quiet. You don't know what the hell you're talking about.

This may very well be the single dumbest paragraph on the internetz.

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It would truly be mind boggling if nothing PS4 related is mentioned at fanfest.

My understanding is it will be mentioned at E3.

But again your premise is flawed. You say yourself the out of gate reception hurt the game. What exactly happens if they port the game in its current state to PS4? The same damn thing! It will be 2 strikes and you're out. Your impatience is dangerous.

No, this game is persistent, restarting is now no longer an option, if the wanted to restart that should have been done in closed beta!! DUST will be available on both consoles for a time, when sony cut support for ps3 systems, we will potentially move over completly, they wont overhaul the base code to suit the ps4 until unreal 4 is released, u 4 willmhave the capability of optimizing the game for improved performance on the ps4.

You need to either leave alone, or stick it out, you dont just shutdown andmhave another go, on a game like this!!

That may be, but notice how the EVE elements are the only thing keeping this game going? If CCP removed all of the RPG, suit fitting, ISK vs. risk, and connections to EVE this game would be horrible. CCP can't compete with AAA shooters with insane budgets , code that goes years back and has been improved over many versions that have been vetted/tweaked/polished by years of play. That style of pick-up-and-play meaningless FPS gameplay is saturated and done better by studios who have been doing FPS games for a long time. I can guarantee the CoD team isn't spending their time working out basic hit-detection issues like CCP has been.

For DUST to succeed, it needs to embrace its strengths, cater to RPG fans as a "thinking man's shooter." I can't stand other FPS games myself. It's spawn, kill, die, respawn, etc ad nausium. You don't get the rush of playing with something to loose, or the thrill of taking down someone who was wearing an expensive fit, or a costly vehicle. You don't get the thrill of planning out how to maximize your ISK-efficiency in your cheap suits, or maximize your firepower/surviability/utility in your expensive fits. I actually think this game will draw in a huge following once the core is worked out, the missing content is in place, the matchmaker is fixed and we get a compelling NPE that let's new players see the potential and depth the game has to offer instead of running around cluelessly with ARs in starter fits.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

Less than 4k online at peak and only decreasing.

Yes, I agree a fresh start on the PS4 would be the best option, but since a PS4 version hasn't been confirmed yet I would say we're looking at spring 2014 for a PS4 version at the earliest.

I never read a comment like that before...

No really. What do you think would change on the PS4? I can tell you what: Nothing. Development would still be slow, it would still be the same team. You can't expect them to just "start over" and suddenly everything we were waiting for for months now would be there. That's not how it works.

Oh well: We would have less players because not many people will buy the PS4 directly on launch. Many people will wait until the PS4-Slim is released. PS3 is an established console on the other hand. No reason to release Dust 514 on PS4 before the PS4-Slim is released.

The target market for DUST is the legions of console FPS players.

The peeps currently sticking with DUST tends to be the pre-invested EVE crowd.

There's no dichotomy here, in the end DUST will have failed if it doesn't serve both markets, and serve them well. For the FPSer downloading the free shooter DUST has to be a decent free shooter - this is why we would be fools to ignore the core FPS aspects of the game. For the EVE-inspired players DUST has to be intimately connected to EVE so that New Eden can become the dynamic player-driven story that drives the high end gameplay in DUST.

And in between we need non-arbitrary gameplay and systems that are functionally embedded in New Eden and support the evolution of FPS players into fully-invested citizens of New Eden.

It's not either/or it's both, and since the pump that feeds the DUST engine is retaining new FPS players, the only sensible way to build the game, the only way that will work, is from the core FPS priorities up. EVE players cannot save this game, only console FPSers can give us what we need.

Imo if we want those players to buy into the frustration, grind and hard knocks(not talking about the state of DUST, talking about life in a brutal virtual universe) that are part and parcel of life in New Eden, we have to give them a quality experience, and that means a quality FPS experience. That doesn't mean we need to be like every other FPS out there, but it does mean that DUST pubs have to deliver good gameplay, feature good controls, and be grounded in good FPS fundamentals.

There is no other way.

The out-of-gate reception will curse this brand forever and upcoming next-gen consoles will further weaken the already small playerebase. It's clear that CCP has struggled immensely in making good use of the PS3's weak hardware and that their vision will never materialize on an old last-gen console. It is too late for this game to recover on PS3 in its current position.

Start over on the PS4. Use the extra resources available with next-gen hardware to completely overhaul the gameplay. Rebrand the game and showcase it as a completely new experience (think FF14: A Realm Reborn). Run the beta alongside the current PS3 version for around 6-12 months. Once it's all set and done and people have had enough time to transition, go gold and cut the life-support on the PS3 version permanently.

Focus from here until the PS4 version should be on fixing the game and fixing the brand. Once you've revived good press and have given Dust a second chance at life, then you can rake in the $$$.

Treat the PS3 version as an experiment and learning experience for the real deal.

http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust

Less than 4k online at peak and only decreasing.

Yes, I agree a fresh start on the PS4 would be the best option, but since a PS4 version hasn't been confirmed yet I would say we're looking at spring 2014 for a PS4 version at the earliest.

Again, what makes you think they can do better on PS4?

put in game fixes and test stuff on ps3, screw Unreal 4, go straight back to the old carbon engine that was too powerful for ps3 and put it on the ps4. Saying the words "carbon engine" would reignite hype IF the game mechanics worked.....

If you look at the past year the graph shows that there are more people playing and it is slowly rising since about October.