I see a lot of folks upset at lost prototype suits since its so easy to die now and since the AR is the most used weapon then lets add an overheat to it.

With an overheat AR gunbattles will be more tactical and not Todays blink and you die.
It will also create tactical choices on when to shoot instead of the twitch shooter we have now.

TTK is way too short with folks dieing too fast and we need a way to live a bit longer.

I use ARs so do not mess with my weapon...snif lost more proto suits

It has overheat, you over heat after 63 bullets, the Officer AR jams...

the Officer AR jams...

See? AR's do have a drawback.

P.S. I'm a Heavy btw, if CCP decided to make the AR overheat like the HMG there would be no end to the crying... But then everyone would go back to the tac AR

I meant after half a clip since time to die is way too short with most folks running duvolle or geks

I can't manage to adapt so I came to QQ on the forums about the same topic people have been making threads about for months in order to excuse my lack of skill.

Yes, lets let it overheat and make it a simple copy of the scrambler / laser rifle.

This is a stupid idea, the assault rifles are pretty well balanced. The assault scrambler rifles have overheat, and they're just a better version of the assault rifle.

Blaster turrets overheat so ARs should too

The Kirin's overheats already.

Blaster turrets overheat so ARs should too

Yeah and maybe ARs can do blaster turret damage to vehicles while we're at it.

I see a lot of folks upset at lost prototype suits since its so easy to die now and since the AR is the most used weapon then lets add an overheat to it.

With an overheat AR gunbattles will be more tactical and not Todays blink and you die.
It will also create tactical choices on when to shoot instead of the twitch shooter we have now.

TTK is way too short with folks dieing too fast and we need a way to live a bit longer.

Yeah and maybe ARs can do blaster turret damage to vehicles while we're at it.

Duvolle out damages proto large blasters.

I wouldn't agree to the overheat, but drop the mag size, you dont need 60 rnds your an AR not an LSW, and then 10% less damage.
On a more fun note, you could have a 0.07% chance to jam with every bullet, requires a reload to fix!!

Duvolle out damages proto large blasters.

They do?? but just not at the same damage levels.
Once a vehicles shield is down then an AR can chip away at a vehicles armor until it dies and yes I have helped to kill tanks that way.

Yep, I remember doing this in Chromosome with the SMG.

Reducing the clip size is a tricky one because of the AsCR it would become all of a sudden way superior to the AR and the AsCR should only mimic the AR

Yep, I remember doing this in Chromosome with the SMG.

True but that can be countered bu giving the AScR faster over heat longer cool down, it already has a larger mag doesn't it??

Sure there are ways to balance this but you have to do a lot of balance work :). In Dust right now all High Rof weapons have a large clip what makes sense in some way. If you want to change that you could lower the clip zize on all HROF weapons or you need other ways to balance that.

I think its easier to give the GAR its intended role: High DPS short Range that would seperate the GAR more from the other weapons. In theorie the GAR should be the most efficient Assault rifle in Dust as according o CCP the assault tree is the strenght of the gallente.

Nerfing the hell out of it and keeping all the other variant untouched is wrong...

We need the AR as a standard. Can't go changing the standard. Since the AR is the staple of every FPS out there, just keep it as it is and balance everything else around it.

If you threw overheat on the AR newbies would stop shooting my dropship with their AR after the first overheat as they realise it's only doing them a disservice. I want them to keep shooting at me.

This is a stupid idea, the assault rifles are pretty well balanced. The assault scrambler rifles have overheat, and they're just a better version of the assault rifle.

If the Assault Scrambler was better (and it overheats if you like fire 3 whole clips) then everyone would be running around with them, i hardly see Ascr rifles and even less Semi auto Scramblers, that kinda means the opposite.

They should add a skill to get the Dispersion fixed, then you will see them used more.

The reason most people use AR is because it is one of the few things that are fine and the other guns need tweaking, instead of lowering everything down why don't we get thep higher up?

Moved to Feedback/Requests

I cannot believe anyone thinks AR overheat is a good idea.

Let's have TWO militia starter fits explode in people's faces and hope people don't uninstall.

Let's have them skill into ARs far enough to get 60 round magazines and then change the way the weapon behaves?

Ridiculous.

The Ascr is already superior to the AR......

ARs dont need to overheat. However if there is not going to be a change to the aim assist then CCP should reduce the mag size to 45 rounds on the reg ARs and the militia AR should be decreased to 30 rounds.

ASCR should also have a significant decrease in mag size. ASCR should be decreased to 55 rounds.

All Sacred Cows end up at the dinner table.

The sacred cow wiped the floor with you one too many times didn't it?

Just like my comment did.

Now hurry and quote/edit my comment like you did Funkmasterwhale's so you can feel good about yourself.

Thank you.

Why no weapon/suit/mod/vehicle SPECIFIC feedback subforums??

Now if they are indeed both rifles, then the racial profiles can be properly set up.

Gallante - HROF, HDPS, 15m optimal
Minmatar - HROF, MDPS, 30m optimal
Amarr - MROF, MDPS, 50m optimal
Caldari - LROF, HDPS, 70m optimal

Then all rifles will attempt to mimic each other, but still stay true to these core values!! Thats how it ought to be!!

I see a lot of folks upset at LOST PROTOTYPE SUITS since its so easy to die now and since the AR is the most used weapon.

this?

THIS IS THE ONLY REASON U WANT AR NERFED!?


really?


thats the only reason u want the ar nerfed?!

because u lost your proto suit to it in a pub match!?!?!

CCP dont listen to these dummies...

all they are caring about is their own proto suit...

I am not sure but the Caldari Rifle should have High Alpha damage with low Rof giving it medium to low overall dps. A high dps weapon with high range seem wrong to me.

Regarding your Range table 15m is less than the range of a smg right now...

I guess the following would fit better:
Gallante - HROF, HDPS, 30m optimal
Minmatar - HROF, MDPS, 45m optimal
Amarr - MROF, MDPS, 60m optimal
Caldari - LROF, LDPS, 75m optimal