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Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 07:48:00 -
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I wouldn't agree to the overheat, but drop the mag size, you dont need 60 rnds your an AR not an LSW, and then 10% less damage.
On a more fun note, you could have a 0.07% chance to jam with every bullet, requires a reload to fix!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 09:24:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I wouldn't agree to the overheat, but drop the mag size, you dont need 60 rnds your an AR not an LSW, and then 10% less damage.
On a more fun note, you could have a 0.07% chance to jam with every bullet, requires a reload to fix!! Reducing the clip size is a tricky one because of the AsCR it would become all of a sudden way superior to the AR and the AsCR should only mimic the AR 
True but that can be countered bu giving the AScR faster over heat longer cool down, it already has a larger mag doesn't it?? |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 09:26:00 -
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DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:KGB Sleep wrote:CharCharOdell wrote:Blaster turrets overheat so ARs should too Yeah and maybe ARs can do blaster turret damage to vehicles while we're at it.  They do?? but just not at the same damage levels. Once a vehicles shield is down then an AR can chip away at a vehicles armor until it dies and yes I have helped to kill tanks that way. Yep, I remember doing this in Chromosome with the SMG.
I saw 5 guys take down a lav with ars and win, mathematically its possible ar does 20% damage to vechiles!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 10:34:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I wouldn't agree to the overheat, but drop the mag size, you dont need 60 rnds your an AR not an LSW, and then 10% less damage.
On a more fun note, you could have a 0.07% chance to jam with every bullet, requires a reload to fix!! Reducing the clip size is a tricky one because of the AsCR it would become all of a sudden way superior to the AR and the AsCR should only mimic the AR True but that can be countered bu giving the AScR faster over heat longer cool down, it already has a larger mag doesn't it?? Sure there are ways to balance this but you have to do a lot of balance work :). In Dust right now all High Rof weapons have a large clip what makes sense in some way. If you want to change that you could lower the clip zize on all HROF weapons or you need other ways to balance that. I think its easier to give the GAR its intended role: High DPS short Range that would seperate the GAR more from the other weapons. In theorie the GAR should be the most efficient Assault rifle in Dust as according o CCP the assault tree is the strenght of the gallente. Nerfing the hell out of it and keeping all the other variant untouched is wrong...
Of course, its only a placeholder at mo anyway. |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 11:24:00 -
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Vyzion Eyri wrote:We need the AR as a standard. Can't go changing the standard. Since the AR is the staple of every FPS out there, just keep it as it is and balance everything else around it. If you threw overheat on the AR newbies would stop shooting my dropship with their AR after the first overheat as they realise it's only doing them a disservice. I want them to keep shooting at me. 
There are 4 racial variants, there will be nothing standard about the ar, eventually not even the name, the staple of fps, is the type of weapon that you use, full auto machinec gun.
Besides when the rest of the weapons are fine, is it better to drop 1, or buff all weapons and suits!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 14:21:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:KGB Sleep wrote: I cannot believe anyone thinks AR overheat is a good idea.
Let's have TWO militia starter fits explode in people's faces and hope people don't uninstall.
Let's have them skill into ARs far enough to get 60 round magazines and then change the way the weapon behaves?
Ridiculous.
All Sacred Cows end up at the dinner table. The sacred cow wiped the floor with you one too many times didn't it? Just like my comment did. Now hurry and quote/edit my comment like you did Funkmasterwhale's so you can feel good about yourself.
Kgb is right fella's there are plenty of other things that can be done, adding overheat to yet another weapon is unneeded and unnecessary!! What needs to happen is that the GAR (Gallante Assault Rifle) or Blaster Rifle or Plasma Blaster or what ever you guys want to call it is no longer a place holder rifle. However this can't be done yet because the combat and rail aren't out, but there are weapons in 1.5 so??
Now if they are indeed both rifles, then the racial profiles can be properly set up.
Gallante - HROF, HDPS, 15m optimal
Minmatar - HROF, MDPS, 30m optimal
Amarr - MROF, MDPS, 50m optimal
Caldari - LROF, HDPS, 70m optimal
Then all rifles will attempt to mimic each other, but still stay true to these core values!! Thats how it ought to be!! |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2013.09.11 18:34:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
Now if they are indeed both rifles, then the racial profiles can be properly set up.
Gallante - HROF, HDPS, 15m optimal
Minmatar - HROF, MDPS, 30m optimal
Amarr - MROF, MDPS, 50m optimal
Caldari - LROF, HDPS, 70m optimal
Then all rifles will attempt to mimic each other, but still stay true to these core values!! Thats how it ought to be!!
I am not sure but the Caldari Rifle should have High Alpha damage with low Rof giving it medium to low overall dps. A high dps weapon with high range seem wrong to me. Regarding your Range table 15m is less than the range of a smg right now... I guess the following would fit better: Gallante - HROF, HDPS, 30m optimal Minmatar - HROF, MDPS, 45m optimal Amarr - MROF, MDPS, 60m optimal Caldari - LROF, LDPS, 75m optimal
Fair enough, Im just throwing the idea out there, it makes more sense but low rof and low damage a shot at least medium? J
The galante either needs a little less range or or a very quick fall off, otherwise it will still remain a bit to powerful!! |
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