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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
315
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:27:00 -
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As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP.
The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. |
XANDER KAG
Red Star. EoN.
253
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:31:00 -
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And I thought the Minmatar front was starting to turn rotten.... |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1285
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:32:00 -
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faction warfare is an agreed free for all as it has consequences in EvE. new players should be getting match made with other new players in public contracts. sadly in FW i strongly believe HTFU.
what you are more likely seeing is players going on cool what this and trying it out, personally i think there needs to be lock on FW till so many games or skill points has been reached as you need above normal gear just to stand a chance in FW these days |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1129
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:32:00 -
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"King Cobra corp"
I know who I'm putting a bounty on |
Everything Dies
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
67
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:34:00 -
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Two things: 1. Some players from your side may have earned WP but left the battle before it finished. 2. For all of the improvements made to match making, it's still pretty typical to run into battles with one side dominated by squads of one or two corps, while the other is a ragtag collection. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
316
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:50:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:Two things: 1. Some players from your side may have earned WP but left the battle before it finished. 2. For all of the improvements made to match making, it's still pretty typical to run into battles with one side dominated by squads of one or two corps, while the other is a ragtag collection. That's the thing, no one left or stopped playing. At the very end of the match it was about 12 of our guys blobbed up near my uplinks ( I was the only one on the team laying them down). We were taking cover near the large barrels / vats by the supply depot near "A" on the Ashland map. That "last stand" was the best part of the game, watching my teammates get melted one by one... |
Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1496
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:52:00 -
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Yeah i don't think FW battles are matched for skill. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
316
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:53:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:faction warfare is an agreed free for all as it has consequences in EvE. new players should be getting match made with other new players in public contracts. sadly in FW i strongly believe HTFU.
what you are more likely seeing is players going on cool what this and trying it out, personally i think there needs to be lock on FW till so many games or skill points has been reached as you need above normal gear just to stand a chance in FW these days I agree here. In FW I expect to see better gear and players. If I'm running solo, I play FW instead of pubs for this reason. The problem is that the newbies are coming to FW, trying to escape getting their $*^# pushed in, only to have it pushed in even farther, lol. |
gbghg
L.O.T.I.S.
3408
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:56:00 -
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You've pearly never seen the result of a zitro pub stomp... |
CharCharOdell
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
663
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Posted - 2013.09.09 21:58:00 -
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If you're interested in helping newberriest in a more organized way, without being D-UNI, please contact me and you can become part of the learning coalition. I usually pick up one meanberry a day and teach him the ropes. |
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OgTheEnigma
Seraphim Initiative..
155
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:24:00 -
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That's nothing compared to the Ambush stomps on a regular basis. I've seen it quite a few times where one team only manages to kill 5 clones or less, with the majority of losing players getting 0 kills. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1651
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:29:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out.
Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke.
Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. |
LOADED'HORN
Raven Accord Black Core Alliance
13
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:32:00 -
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I wholly agree about the lack of helpful information for new players. I wholly agree about the lack of information for new players. There, I said it twice for postierity. Could CCP bring their wild, far out and imagineering dreams down to Earth for the common human to grasp as they move into this uncharted space? There has to be a major void in the philosophy for the devs to continue ignoring new recruits. Or it may be a deliberate choice of holding back, that would only hurt CCPs ISK intake. HTFU? Whatever, profits equal pleasure for all involved.
It has to be because of the development and design time. If it were my business, and I am a business owner IRL, and having the appropriate amount of resources to give new players a reason to "Go Beyond" I would spend more time developing the recruits knowledge base. The current marketing effect is generally sound. It works, yet it's not enough. Yes it gets attention. Yes it does get new friends to log in and get punched strait in the nose. Can I alone find a way to convince them to stay? Try harder, I am.
That very issue has to be the hardest objective to hack in this game. So please CCP send me 100,000,000,000 ISK for recruiting purposes. Its only digital money you could turn into real cash. The SOONer the better
My opinion is that the battle academy must be longer. Because I also did FW battle last night and we totally slaughterd the other team. Half a clip to kill most, and 5 orbitals from our side to their 0. These newbs are not going to return. I would hope so though. gg? |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1862
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:33:00 -
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Dunno if this one counts a lopsided.
But a four man squad totals 70+ Kills, gets 4 OB's in the match, and still loses the match to incompetent blue dots..... |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1677
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:34:00 -
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I've seen much, much worse in FW. All these new players who have no clue what's going on are queuing up for FW. I kid you not, I look at the career stats of the people on both my team and the enemy team and they have no more than 10 total kills. What the heck are they doing in Faction Warfare? They see "Public contracts for anybody" and "Factional contracts that impact EVE" and bam, decision made without considering that all they do is hurt the team (literally, the amount of times I've seen a team get cloned in FW, these new guys would of been better served by an empty slot).
CCP, please put some sort of restrictions on FW. |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1862
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:39:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I've seen much, much worse in FW. All these new players who have no clue what's going on are queuing up for FW. I kid you not, I look at the career stats of the people on both my team and the enemy team and they have no more than 10 total kills. What the heck are they doing in Faction Warfare? They see "Public contracts for anybody" and "Factional contracts that impact EVE" and bam, decision made without considering that all they do is hurt the team (literally, the amount of times I've seen a team get cloned in FW, these new guys would of been better served by an empty slot).
CCP, please put some sort of restrictions on FW.
Corps must sign up for Faction Militias, starter corps do not have a choice, they cannot fight in FW.
Squads are prioritised over single players.
Standings are implanted to stop "jumping ship" players which drag the warzone down.
I'm wary to even say this but right now Im glad FW doesn't affect EVE the player base is non skilled, non squadded, new players who do not even really care about FW nor positively support their teams. |
howard sanchez
Sanchez Cartage llc
725
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:40:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke. Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. Of course, all these replies trying to "one up" who up stomps the hardest is kinda the point...
It's the vets who need to get a clearer perspective of what they're doing. That is, it would be if the vet players who abuse pub stomping had the ability or willingness to give a ****. They don't as a whole. Thus, it is left to CCP to fix the matter. And the whiney-ass pub stomping vets just QQ on the forums about aim assist because a new berry shot them.
Time to HTFU folks....hang on tight through all the pub stomps and bugs and lag. The CCP cavalry is coming....Soon |
Hellkeizer
The Avutora Complex
73
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:40:00 -
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That's why CCP needs to fix the matchmaking ASAP. Also they must devote what extra resources they can for the new player experience that's suppose to be in the next update |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:41:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote: Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke.
Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive.
I think you're missing the point, but you're also proving my point at the same time. You are describing pubstomping, which is leading newberries into FW to escape it. Instead they find even more sharks in the water. New players need something to keep them interested. Getting curb-stomped constantly is not the way to bring new players back. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1651
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:43:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote: Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke.
Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive.
I think you're missing the point, but you're also proving my point at the same time. You are describing pubstomping, which is leading newberries into FW to escape it. Instead they find even more sharks in the water. New players need something to keep them interested. Getting curb-stomped constantly is not the way to bring new players back.
I wasn't disputing the point you made; I was just not commenting on the point. I'm just showing you that example you were giving isn't the most extreme.
Also, we get these results when opposed by other squads, even in Faction Warfare. |
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:43:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:I've seen much, much worse in FW. All these new players who have no clue what's going on are queuing up for FW. I kid you not, I look at the career stats of the people on both my team and the enemy team and they have no more than 10 total kills. What the heck are they doing in Faction Warfare? They see "Public contracts for anybody" and "Factional contracts that impact EVE" and bam, decision made without considering that all they do is hurt the team (literally, the amount of times I've seen a team get cloned in FW, these new guys would of been better served by an empty slot).
CCP, please put some sort of restrictions on FW. Exactly my point. They DO see the public contracts, but it's full of Vets mowing down nubs for "teh lulz". Is the new matchmaking system helping at all with public contracts? I haven't played many pub matches lately. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
389
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:44:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke. Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. I've seen some 80-1/2/3 matches myself. Also my squad of TSOLE pulled out over 9k wp against a team in FW last night. FW has really slid downhill since 1.4 |
True Adamance
PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1862
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:47:00 -
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P14GU3 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke. Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. I've seen some 80-1/2/3 matches myself. Also my squad of TSOLE pulled out over 9k wp against a team in FW last night. FW has really slid downhill since 1.4 It hurts to see such things doesn't it.
Great games against TSOLE and ANONYMOUS though. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
317
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:48:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote: I wasn't disputing the point you made; I was just not commenting on the point. I'm just showing you that example you were giving isn't the most extreme.
Also, we get these results when opposed by other squads, even in Faction Warfare.
My example was never meant to be the most extreme, just an example of what's going on in FW currently. I just made the attention grabbing headline to try and get a lively discussion going. Seems to be working so far. |
Forlorn Destrier
Bullet Cluster
1651
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:49:00 -
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howard sanchez wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke. Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. Of course, all these replies trying to "one up" who up stomps the hardest is kinda the point... It's the vets who need to get a clearer perspective of what they're doing. That is, it would be if the vet players who abuse pub stomping had the ability or willingness to give a ****. They don't as a whole. Thus, it is left to CCP to fix the matter. And the whiney-ass pub stomping vets just QQ on the forums about aim assist because a new berry shot them. Time to HTFU folks....hang on tight through all the pub stomps and bugs and lag. The CCP cavalry is coming....Soon
Well Howard Sanchez, if you knew me as well as you thought you did from your time in Zion, you would know I'm helping give a better example and not trying to show how much tougher I am than others.
But then I shouldn't be surprised, I suppose, that you would choose to twist the facts given you really don't care about others and turned traitor to the corp that counted on you as a leader. Sorry, but nothing you say at this point will convince me you have "the good of the community" at heart. |
P14GU3
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
389
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Posted - 2013.09.09 22:58:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:P14GU3 wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:As a result of the non stop Pubstomping some folks enjoy, newberries have begun looking for refuge in (the) other battle mode(s). This results in FW being either amazingly evenly matched, or this. I censored out my teams names to protect the stomped. I truly believe I was apart of the most lopsided game in Dust 514 history. No one was AFK, they were actually trying to win, and good lord was it depressing. The WP total for our entire team was 2190, theirs was 7550. Our entire team in a squad wouldn't have even sniffed a precision strike, lol. This game NEEDS a game mode like PVE, or just give new players the option to return to the Battle Academy until they reach 100k lifetime WP. The other thing that baffles me is the unwillingness of "Vets" to help newberries get their bearings. They just laugh and talk smack to them the whole time. Why would you want to stick around a game that is so unfriendly to new players, both game-play wise and player base wise? I understand this is New Eden, and HTFU, blah, blah, blah, but with our player base so small as it is... I try and help these poor bastards from time to time, but sometimes, games like this make you think they have no hope of getting better without the Veteran player base helping out. Not the worst. I was in an ambush once where my team went 80-1. No joke. Also, my corp is routinely able to pull in 7500 WP with only one squad (6 players). A full team doing it isn't that impressive. I've seen some 80-1/2/3 matches myself. Also my squad of TSOLE pulled out over 9k wp against a team in FW last night. FW has really slid downhill since 1.4 It hurts to see such things doesn't it. Great games against TSOLE and ANONYMOUS though. FW needs more PIE.
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General John Ripper
The Generals EoN.
2324
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:03:00 -
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Fw needs tacos |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
319
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:09:00 -
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General John Ripper wrote:Fw needs tacos Bacon weaved tacos? |
Hey Fatty
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
51
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:12:00 -
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But you have Koochmaster on your side. You should have won! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
8206
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Posted - 2013.09.09 23:12:00 -
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FW matches should not be matching for skill at all. |
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