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Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.10 13:40:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. Russia was allied with the germans in ww2 germany then attacked them so idk if you count them as being allies with america and britain/France, I'm just saying as an American we help people that we don't care about just as they don't care about us Germany and Russia had a non-aggression pact, they weren't allies. Japan and Italy were allied with Germany, Russia with us, Britain and France. You should actually know something about history before you start using historical analogies. Now go crawl back under the big blue skirt.. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:14:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. Russia was allied with the germans in ww2 germany then attacked them so idk if you count them as being allies with america and britain/France, I'm just saying as an American we help people that we don't care about just as they don't care about us Germany and Russia had a non-aggression pact, they weren't allies. Japan and Italy were allied with Germany, Russia with us, Britain and France. You should actually know something about history before you start using historical analogies. Now go crawl back under the big blue skirt.. Who invaded poland with germany? Suck my dong the answer is russia |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:37:00 -
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Also russia didn't join the allies till they were attacked or right before it was in 1941 so yeah call me dumb but your the one thinking russia was with the allies before then... |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:41:00 -
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Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:45:00 -
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Fair enough ill take that I don't care enough to look it up |
Military Advisor
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:48:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies. No, Germany and Russia were still allied for a year or two after Germany invaded Poland. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:51:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies. So say america helps defend the uk are we going to kill them and take pow? That's how russia rolled into poland just saying, their excuse is what you said but is far from the truth |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
72
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Posted - 2013.09.10 15:53:00 -
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Military Advisor wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies. No, Germany and Russia were still allied for a year or two after Germany invaded Poland. They never were allied. They had a non-aggression pact. They didn't fight together. They just both did a land grab in eastern Europe at the same time and didn't want it escalating into war. The truth was that Germany feared the commies more than the democracies. And Stalin hated Adolph and the fascists. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:10:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies.
Completely false. What Kam said was correct. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:15:00 -
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Marlin Kirby wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Russia invaded Poland after Germany invaded to prevent Germany from taking it. They didn't do so as allies.
Germany invading Poland led to Russia joining the allies. Completely false. What Kam said was correct.
Yep, I was wrong.
I hate it when I am wrong |
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DaddyKillsEmAll
United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION
85
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:29:00 -
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lol |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:35:00 -
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Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:38:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now
You see it in America's military prowess. We stole all the good scientists. |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
828
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:50:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
Gauntlet has been thrown
still waiting for your response i would attack you but your districts seem to be magically under attack every day. |
Marlin Kirby
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
37
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Posted - 2013.09.10 16:56:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now
I bet humans would have gone to the moon quicker. |
Zero Harpuia
Turalyon 514 Turalyon Alliance
889
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:00:00 -
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Took three years due to the language barrier :3 |
Kam Elto
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:13:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now There's a book and movie called "Fatherland". Germany beat Russia and signed a peace treaty with the Allies. Doesn't delve much into the technology, more into the political aspects. Very interesting scenario. |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.10 17:28:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
Gauntlet has been thrown still waiting for your response i would attack you but your districts seem to be magically under attack every day.
Nobody is on that can attack, it's coming |
Quickgloves
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
828
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Posted - 2013.09.10 18:41:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Quickgloves wrote:Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
Gauntlet has been thrown still waiting for your response i would attack you but your districts seem to be magically under attack every day. Nobody is on that can attack, it's coming
well if no one is on those attacks then we will send some fun your way tonight. Just to clarify but the last 3-4 days I have been trying to attack your ONE district. ( since the other is in an INDY fight club zone) It has been under attacked. No clone lost an we both know molon is not that good to loose 0 clones in a real defense. An again we will field only SVER people for the fights give you something to moan about . |
Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION
1207
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Posted - 2013.09.10 19:51:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Quickgloves wrote:Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
Gauntlet has been thrown still waiting for your response i would attack you but your districts seem to be magically under attack every day. Nobody is on that can attack, it's coming well if no one is on those attacks then we will send some fun your way tonight. Just to clarify but the last 3-4 days I have been trying to attack your ONE district. ( since the other is in an INDY fight club zone) It has been under attacked. No clone lost an we both know molon is not that good to loose 0 clones in a real defense. An again we will field only SVER people for the fights give you something to moan about .
Well then you haven't been looking very hard, we have 4 or 5. And we've had them locked them up for a while. We heard it was cool on here.
Should we buy 15 more so you'll respect us? Or should we unlock them and hire ringers to defend them? Would that be more respectable? |
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King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1145
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:10:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now The world would be a vastly better place. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1102
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:15:00 -
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Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
Gauntlet has been thrown Will ring for whoever's paying. PC-experienced in leadership roles, proto logi, assault, and/or dedicated AV who can fly a transport viper as needed. |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:44:00 -
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Thor Odinson42 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now You see it in America's military prowess. We stole all the good scientists. Germany's is still better soo? I disagree I think it'd be more advanced |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:46:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now The world would be a vastly better place. Lol no more chaos in this world waiting for America to have the balls to fight russia and destroy the world in the process |
Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:48:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now There's a book and movie called "Fatherland". Germany beat Russia and signed a peace treaty with the Allies. Doesn't delve much into the technology, more into the political aspects. Very interesting scenario. Wolfenstein sums it up |
King Kobrah
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1146
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Posted - 2013.09.10 20:59:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now The world would be a vastly better place. Lol no more chaos in this world waiting for America to have the balls to fight russia and destroy the world in the process A fully unified nation and peoples, working together to create the largest technological leaps mankind has ever seen
no more america trying to be world police, no more BS going on in the middle east, no more russia period..just the glorious fuhrer and the most advanced civilization on the face of the earth. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
1105
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Posted - 2013.09.10 22:55:00 -
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King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now The world would be a vastly better place. Lol no more chaos in this world waiting for America to have the balls to fight russia and destroy the world in the process A fully unified nation and peoples, working together to create the largest technological leaps mankind has ever seen no more america trying to be world police, no more BS going on in the middle east, no more russia period..just the glorious fuhrer and the most advanced civilization on the face of the earth. So... so... so not how it would be. Seriously. You just change one unipolar world for another. So it would be the Germans playing world police. Oh wait... they lack the geography to do such a thing resulting in continued geopolitical multi-polarity diluting world-wide wealth and advancement due to constant bloody (as opposed to 'cold') feuding; technology would not have progressed at such a pace if not for the bipolar soviet vs. american era due. All this combined with the lack of post-WWII human rights initiatives, this makes such a world a much bloodier place. That's taking the "Germany defeats the allies" view.
Issues in the Middle East and Africa would still be issues in such a world - the seeds of conflict date to the colonial period if not before. But I digress...
Realistically, Germany could NEVER "defeat the allies" ... they could only "win the war". There is a difference. Realistically, their winning the war would not have stymied the rise of America as a superpower; despite WWII-era propaganda, Germany was and never will be an existential threat to the United States. If Germany had won WWII, it would have had to be due to the failure of continental Europe+Britain causing the U.S. to withdraw and a ceasefire to be arranged. The U.S. remains powerful and progress continues with Germany playing the motivating "Great Other" as opposed to the Soviet Union. An assumed pre-emption of nuclear demonstration by the U.S. allows Japan to rise in the East. However, nothing changes Mao's Revolution and communist China comes to the fore with Japan as their primary antagonist as opposed to cold relations with Russia. The Korean War never happens. Vietnam never happens. The U.S. entering the 21st century is economically strong but still in an antagonistic state with Europe which is an economic backwater - because the ******* Marshall Plan never happens and it still suffers the demographic issues it faces today. You forget that the U.S. did not have to be rebuilt, but continental Europe did.
African nations fight for independence against mostly German overlords and are more successful and progressive as you end up with increased coalescence along cultural lines rather than externally-negotiated independence along colonial lines...
... anyway, just got free seats to a baseball game so done with this post. But... yeah... |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:04:00 -
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Germany would have world dominance not play police like america...sure maybe a few rebellions but they'd lose or hey maybe even win then were back waiting for one dumb ass to nuke the other...thank you russia for putting up with our government its truely pathetic but sadly peace never lasts we will go to war and die for our governments actions hell we could win the war but at what price? |
Heimdallr69
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:07:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:King Kobrah wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Anyone else wish they could see the future if germany would have won to see their technology if its completely different or not? Or is that just me...I'm glad they lost I just want to know what the technology would be like now The world would be a vastly better place. Lol no more chaos in this world waiting for America to have the balls to fight russia and destroy the world in the process A fully unified nation and peoples, working together to create the largest technological leaps mankind has ever seen no more america trying to be world police, no more BS going on in the middle east, no more russia period..just the glorious fuhrer and the most advanced civilization on the face of the earth. So... so... so not how it would be. Seriously. You just change one unipolar world for another. So it would be the Germans playing world police. Oh wait... they lack the geography to do such a thing resulting in continued geopolitical multi-polarity diluting world-wide wealth and advancement due to constant bloody (as opposed to 'cold') feuding; technology would not have progressed at such a pace if not for the bipolar soviet vs. american era due. All this combined with the lack of post-WWII human rights initiatives, this makes such a world a much bloodier place. That's taking the "Germany defeats the allies" view. Issues in the Middle East and Africa would still be issues in such a world - the seeds of conflict date to the colonial period if not before. But I digress... Realistically, Germany could NEVER "defeat the allies" ... they could only "win the war". There is a difference. Realistically, their winning the war would not have stymied the rise of America as a superpower; despite WWII-era propaganda, Germany was and never will be an existential threat to the United States. If Germany had won WWII, it would have had to be due to the failure of continental Europe+Britain causing the U.S. to withdraw and a ceasefire to be arranged. The U.S. remains powerful and progress continues with Germany playing the motivating "Great Other" as opposed to the Soviet Union. An assumed pre-emption of nuclear demonstration by the U.S. allows Japan to rise in the East. However, nothing changes Mao's Revolution and communist China comes to the fore with Japan as their primary antagonist as opposed to cold relations with Russia. The Korean War never happens. Vietnam never happens. The U.S. entering the 21st century is economically strong but still in an antagonistic state with Europe which is an economic backwater - because the ******* Marshall Plan never happens and it still suffers the demographic issues it faces today. You forget that the U.S. did not have to be rebuilt, but continental Europe did. African nations fight for independence against mostly German overlords and are more successful and progressive as you end up with increased coalescence along cultural lines rather than externally-negotiated independence along colonial lines... ... anyway, just got free seats to a baseball game so done with this post. But... yeah... Germany wasn't a super power? Sorry any vets out there...MG-42 look it up then ask how many people died by the hands of this weapon? Also our special forces use german made guns.. |
Skipper Jones
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
718
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Posted - 2013.09.10 23:20:00 -
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Skipper Jones's services are available to STB and the rest of PD if needed.
A few of those PD may remember me. It would be good to see some old names on that battlefield. |
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