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        |  SCRUB adub
 Eyniletti Rangers
 Minmatar Republic
 
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      | Posted - 2013.09.09 23:51:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think we should try to negotiate with Team Players.
 We'll attack STB if they promise to use only 1/2 teams of TP. But we get a cut of the action they are getting from STB.
 
 Lord knows they are too ***** to fight their own battles.
 
 The biggest group of b1tches that Dust has ever seen.
 
 Why on earth would people stay a part of such a ***** corp?
 
 STB member- "Hey can I fight in this PC battle?"
 QG- "No, you guys all suck. We are going to pay ringers instead"
 
 STB member to people on forums- "We are awesome"
 The rest of Dust- "lol @ STB"
 
 its not a difficult thing to grasp.. they want to hire us, they get in touch with us, and depending on availability we accept or decline with proper notice. contrary to popular belief, we are not asked to play in every match that comes along for them. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. sometimes we simply aren't available, sometimes we are and not needed. just good business from out standpoint All I'm saying is that it's common knowledge. They use ringers more than they use their own guys. You can be sure that they will when the going gets rough.  I've been around a lot of players in Dust. Those dudes in STB must be some special characters to accept their CEO not believing they can win a battle. Honestly could you imagine what players you've been around would say to this? I'm not even trying to meta here. It just blows my mind. These certainly aren't Type A personalities that have any sort of competitiveness in them. I would never be part of a corporation that did things this way and I haven't met many people that would. I guess pu$$y and ***** are too harsh. Perhaps it's just the younger generation, maybe they suffer from low T. I could be wrong about the entire thing, but it's a perception that will be difficult to change. I don't think anyone goes into a battle with STB thinking that they'll be fighting STB. As a director and as a member of a corp that's not the way I'd want to be perceived and I don't associate with the type of people who would be okay with it, 
 
 hefty words coming from a corp that poaches from other corps. some of the underhanded things you all have done recently you should tread a bit lighter.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1200
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:01:00 -
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 SCRUB adub wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think we should try to negotiate with Team Players.
 We'll attack STB if they promise to use only 1/2 teams of TP. But we get a cut of the action they are getting from STB.
 
 Lord knows they are too ***** to fight their own battles.
 
 The biggest group of b1tches that Dust has ever seen.
 
 Why on earth would people stay a part of such a ***** corp?
 
 STB member- "Hey can I fight in this PC battle?"
 QG- "No, you guys all suck. We are going to pay ringers instead"
 
 STB member to people on forums- "We are awesome"
 The rest of Dust- "lol @ STB"
 
 its not a difficult thing to grasp.. they want to hire us, they get in touch with us, and depending on availability we accept or decline with proper notice. contrary to popular belief, we are not asked to play in every match that comes along for them. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. sometimes we simply aren't available, sometimes we are and not needed. just good business from out standpoint All I'm saying is that it's common knowledge. They use ringers more than they use their own guys. You can be sure that they will when the going gets rough.  I've been around a lot of players in Dust. Those dudes in STB must be some special characters to accept their CEO not believing they can win a battle. Honestly could you imagine what players you've been around would say to this? I'm not even trying to meta here. It just blows my mind. These certainly aren't Type A personalities that have any sort of competitiveness in them. I would never be part of a corporation that did things this way and I haven't met many people that would. I guess pu$$y and ***** are too harsh. Perhaps it's just the younger generation, maybe they suffer from low T. I could be wrong about the entire thing, but it's a perception that will be difficult to change. I don't think anyone goes into a battle with STB thinking that they'll be fighting STB. As a director and as a member of a corp that's not the way I'd want to be perceived and I don't associate with the type of people who would be okay with it, hefty words coming from a corp that poaches from other corps. some of the underhanded things you all have done recently you should tread a bit lighter. 
 We've done nothing underhanded.
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 91
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:01:00 -
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 I don't even get why Thor is getting involved. ML are PRO essentially. Even STB could beat you guys.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1201
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:11:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think we should try to negotiate with Team Players.
 We'll attack STB if they promise to use only 1/2 teams of TP. But we get a cut of the action they are getting from STB.
 
 Lord knows they are too ***** to fight their own battles.
 
 The biggest group of b1tches that Dust has ever seen.
 
 Why on earth would people stay a part of such a ***** corp?
 
 STB member- "Hey can I fight in this PC battle?"
 QG- "No, you guys all suck. We are going to pay ringers instead"
 
 STB member to people on forums- "We are awesome"
 The rest of Dust- "lol @ STB"
 
 its not a difficult thing to grasp.. they want to hire us, they get in touch with us, and depending on availability we accept or decline with proper notice. contrary to popular belief, we are not asked to play in every match that comes along for them. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. sometimes we simply aren't available, sometimes we are and not needed. just good business from out standpoint All I'm saying is that it's common knowledge. They use ringers more than they use their own guys. You can be sure that they will when the going gets rough.  I've been around a lot of players in Dust. Those dudes in STB must be some special characters to accept their CEO not believing they can win a battle. Honestly could you imagine what players you've been around would say to this? I'm not even trying to meta here. It just blows my mind. These certainly aren't Type A personalities that have any sort of competitiveness in them. I would never be part of a corporation that did things this way and I haven't met many people that would. I guess pu$$y and ***** are too harsh. Perhaps it's just the younger generation, maybe they suffer from low T. I could be wrong about the entire thing, but it's a perception that will be difficult to change. I don't think anyone goes into a battle with STB thinking that they'll be fighting STB. As a director and as a member of a corp that's not the way I'd want to be perceived and I don't associate with the type of people who would be okay with it, Stb has been around before dust this might help with their relationships? 
 I'm not sure you are understanding where I'm coming from.
 
 It's not that STB has the ability to gather ringers. It's that STB uses ringers to the extent that they have a reputation for not even attempting to fight their own fights.
 
 I'll guarantee that 100% of STB's opponent mutter "How many TP will they bring into this battle?" Perhaps being an athlete and soldier put a sense of pride in me that would never be okay with that.
 
 I'm sure there are some strategic advantages there. Similar to being the prison ***** to some powerful gang leader in prison. Holding that dude's pocket while you walk around the prison yard certainly offers some long term safety, but it damn sure doesn't look very good.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1201
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:15:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:I don't even get why Thor is getting involved. ML are PRO essentially. Even STB could beat you guys.  
 Nothing screams badass like posting from an alt.
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 91
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:46:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I don't even get why Thor is getting involved. ML are PRO essentially. Even STB could beat you guys.  Nothing screams badass like posting from an alt. Nothing screams side-stepping comments like misdirect.
 
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        |  Patrick57
 GunFall Mobilization
 Covert Intervention
 
 224
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 00:59:00 -
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 No comment :D
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1202
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:24:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I don't even get why Thor is getting involved. ML are PRO essentially. Even STB could beat you guys.  Nothing screams badass like posting from an alt. Nothing screams side-stepping comments like misdirect.  
 What would you expect my response to such a comment would be?
 
 I doubt we'll ever know who STB can or can't beat. We do know they hire people who can fight.
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        |  STABBEY
 Black Phoenix Mercenaries
 
 447
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:35:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:Long Evity wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:Long Evity wrote:I don't even get why Thor is getting involved. ML are PRO essentially. Even STB could beat you guys.  Nothing screams badass like posting from an alt. Nothing screams side-stepping comments like misdirect.  What would you expect my response to such a comment would be?  I doubt we'll ever know who STB can or can't beat. We do know they hire people who can fight. 
 thor u on in game? if not just get ahold of me when ur on ^^
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        |  Heimdallr69
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 779
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:39:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:CHICAGOCUBS4EVER wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:I think we should try to negotiate with Team Players.
 We'll attack STB if they promise to use only 1/2 teams of TP. But we get a cut of the action they are getting from STB.
 
 Lord knows they are too ***** to fight their own battles.
 
 The biggest group of b1tches that Dust has ever seen.
 
 Why on earth would people stay a part of such a ***** corp?
 
 STB member- "Hey can I fight in this PC battle?"
 QG- "No, you guys all suck. We are going to pay ringers instead"
 
 STB member to people on forums- "We are awesome"
 The rest of Dust- "lol @ STB"
 
 its not a difficult thing to grasp.. they want to hire us, they get in touch with us, and depending on availability we accept or decline with proper notice. contrary to popular belief, we are not asked to play in every match that comes along for them. sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. sometimes we simply aren't available, sometimes we are and not needed. just good business from out standpoint All I'm saying is that it's common knowledge. They use ringers more than they use their own guys. You can be sure that they will when the going gets rough.  I've been around a lot of players in Dust. Those dudes in STB must be some special characters to accept their CEO not believing they can win a battle. Honestly could you imagine what players you've been around would say to this? I'm not even trying to meta here. It just blows my mind. These certainly aren't Type A personalities that have any sort of competitiveness in them. I would never be part of a corporation that did things this way and I haven't met many people that would. I guess pu$$y and ***** are too harsh. Perhaps it's just the younger generation, maybe they suffer from low T. I could be wrong about the entire thing, but it's a perception that will be difficult to change. I don't think anyone goes into a battle with STB thinking that they'll be fighting STB. As a director and as a member of a corp that's not the way I'd want to be perceived and I don't associate with the type of people who would be okay with it, Stb has been around before dust this might help with their relationships? I'm not sure you are understanding where I'm coming from. It's not that STB has the ability to gather ringers. It's that STB uses ringers to the extent that they have a reputation for not even attempting to fight their own fights.  I'll guarantee that 100% of STB's opponent mutter "How many TP will they bring into this battle?" Perhaps being an athlete and soldier put a sense of pride in me that would never be okay with that. I'm sure there are some strategic advantages there. Similar to being the prison ***** to some powerful gang leader in prison. Holding that dude's pocket while you walk around the prison yard certainly offers some long term safety, but it damn sure doesn't look very good. Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:43:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful 
 By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance.
 
 And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players.
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 
 1054
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:44:00 -
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 Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. STB are the farmers
 TP are the soldiers
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        |  Heimdallr69
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 780
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 01:49:00 -
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 Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. Russia was allied with the germans in ww2 germany then attacked them so idk if you count them as being allies with america and britain/France, I'm just saying as an American we help people that we don't care about just as they don't care about us
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 02:32:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. Russia was allied with the germans in ww2 germany then attacked them so idk if you count them as being allies with america and britain/France, I'm just saying as an American we help people that we don't care about just as they don't care about us 
 You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII.
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        |  Heimdallr69
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 780
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 02:43:00 -
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 Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. Russia was allied with the germans in ww2 germany then attacked them so idk if you count them as being allies with america and britain/France, I'm just saying as an American we help people that we don't care about just as they don't care about us You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 35
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 02:48:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies 
 Oh, so you're changing your thoughts to make more sense. Alright then.
 
 Don't tell QG you're not allies, you might hurt his feelings.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1202
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 02:57:00 -
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 Killar-12 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. STB are the farmers TP are the soldiers 
 I think seamen is better
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        |  Killar-12
 The Corporate Raiders
 
 1061
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:02:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:Killar-12 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Just picture it this way TP is the Navy seals and stb is the seamen, used when the job is to big for them or they don't have the players on that are needed to be successful By that logic, TP and STB would be in the same alliance. And it also only makes sense when you can field more than 16 players. STB are the farmers TP are the soldiers I think seamen is better Well I know they might be white from all that time indoors but they're not sperm
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        |  Heimdallr69
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 780
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:05:00 -
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 Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies Oh, so you're changing your thoughts to make more sense. Alright then. Don't tell QG you're not allies, you might hurt his feelings. You know what **** off I didn't change my story one bit don't like going against TP? Don't attack stb were not in the same alliance but we work together happends all the time
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1203
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:11:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies Oh, so you're changing your thoughts to make more sense. Alright then. Don't tell QG you're not allies, you might hurt his feelings. You know what **** off I didn't change my story one bit don't like going against TP? Don't attack stb were not in the same alliance but we work together happends all the time Hence the reason why they have the reputation they have.
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        |  Heimdallr69
 TeamPlayers
 EoN.
 
 780
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:15:00 -
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 Thor Odinson42 wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies Oh, so you're changing your thoughts to make more sense. Alright then. Don't tell QG you're not allies, you might hurt his feelings. You know what **** off I didn't change my story one bit don't like going against TP? Don't attack stb were not in the same alliance but we work together happends all the time Hence the reason why they have the reputation they have. You see it your way I see it mine
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 92
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:26:00 -
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 Thor's just butt hurt... over nothing.
 
 Since when is it a bad thing to hire mercs in Dust? EvE can't - so who else can? Obviously we can't hire eachother because Thor will rage over it and call you bad lol
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1203
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:34:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:Thor's just butt hurt... over nothing.
 Since when is it a bad thing to hire mercs in Dust? EvE can't - so who else can? Obviously we can't hire eachother because Thor will rage over it and call you bad lol
 
 Lol, I'm not butthurt.
 
 They seem to be okay with it. So let them roll with it.
 
 I'm sure STB can throw together some damn good teams. I just can't possibly think of a good reason why you'd never build on that. It doesn't seem necessary.
 
 And I don't expect the 100 people that are part of corps that are capable of being mercs to publicly acknowledge how much of a bitche move it is.
 
 That doesn't mean the rest of the community should sit back and act as though its a respectable way to conduct business. Perhaps if we were playing SIM PLANET or something, but we are playing an FPS.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1203
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:39:00 -
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 I'll tell you what I'll type up a corp mail and tell them that we are going to raise a couple billion ISK by raising taxes to 20% and asking for 500,000 ISK per week from all members.
 
 I'll inform them that we are doing it to obtain 10 districts. We won't be fighting for them. We'll be buying them. And we'll need to keep the taxes high so we can keep hiring ringers to protect the districts. Not because we don't believe in you, but because we want people to worry that they will be fighting the top corp in the game so they won't ever attack us.
 
 I'll get back to you on their reaction.
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        |  Long Evity
 Krullefor Organization
 Minmatar Republic
 
 93
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 03:47:00 -
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 Welcome to EvE. Goons take a lot of crap for fielding zerg armies with no skill - STB here takes crap for fielding other peoples armies. Both make money and thrive.
 
 How's ML Doing? I bet if you did raise taxes to 20% and asked for 500,000 ISK a week you'd fall a part. STB seems to be doing just fine.
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1204
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 04:04:00 -
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 Long Evity wrote:Welcome to EvE. Goons take a lot of crap for fielding zerg armies with no skill - STB here takes crap for fielding other peoples armies. Both make money and thrive. How's ML Doing? I bet if you did raise taxes to 20% and asked for 500,000 ISK a week you'd fall a part. STB seems to be doing just fine.   
 ML is doing great, but we don't roll like that so I'll never know what the reaction is.
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        |  Marlin Kirby
 KILL-EM-QUICK
 RISE of LEGION
 
 36
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 04:36:00 -
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 Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:Heimdallr69 wrote:Marlin Kirby wrote:You compared US special forces with the regular grunts. Not exactly the same thing as the USSR and the USA in WWII. I know I was saying they fought together but wernt allies Oh, so you're changing your thoughts to make more sense. Alright then. Don't tell QG you're not allies, you might hurt his feelings. You know what **** off I didn't change my story one bit don't like going against TP? Don't attack stb were not in the same alliance but we work together happends all the time 
 Um...what? That's twice in one week someone has taken a post of mine way out of context.
 
 I thought you were correcting yourself, something I do all the time. We're all human......I think.
 
 As for "don't like going against TP?", my personal life prevents me from playing in too many PC battles, and I've only faced STB as a corp once. That was just a few days ago. Aside from the one Zion tanker, they were all STB.
 
 In my personal experience, I've only faced a majority TP ringers when I faced the Generals after we (KEQ) defeated them twice. I think it's stupid that corps are allowed to do this (due to lack of real logistics), but I'm not bitter that TP did this. You're just taking advantage of what CCP allowed, but I digress.
 
 The point is, I couldn't care less of how you (TP) conduct your business. As long as it doesn't break the game, it doesn't bother me. You're just playing the game.
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        |  Quickgloves
 SVER True Blood
 Public Disorder.
 
 826
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 05:05:00 -
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 hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
 
 
 
 Gauntlet has been thrown
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        |  NAV HIV
 The Generals
 EoN.
 
 420
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 12:19:00 -
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 "Scrubbey Wrote":
 
 I've been in 4 corps you idiot. lol..
 
 1st PRO -thats were all my friends in ML started.
 2nd Molon Labe -I was 1 of the founding members.
 3rd Warravens -I helped put a training program in place for PC players and train them.
 4th Black Phoenix Mercs -LOI and WR were dead so we formed this for our PC players.
 
 Now what are you b!tching about again kiddo?
  
 Bye now scrub. *Unsubscribed.
  [/quote] 
 I'm not bitching about anything. I'm just calling you a Scrub.
 
 1. Pro - lolPro
 2. 1 of the founding members - not loyal much are you?
 3. Training program - no wonder they are gone
 4. Black P M - hiding behind better players = good for KDR
 
 Now if you are done trying to make yourself relevant and important, can we get back to
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        |  Thor Odinson42
 Molon Labe.
 RISE of LEGION
 
 1206
 
 
      | Posted - 2013.09.10 13:21:00 -
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 Quickgloves wrote:hey THor send an attack to SVEr Ill field only SVER players.
 
 
 Gauntlet has been thrown
 
 Sounds good, I'll be on Wednesday evening to take a look at your timers.
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