Im making my own thread about this because it seems most people are dumbed down to think kb/m is so much better then a gamepad that gamepads need aim assist.

That statement is untrue, as someone who plays mainly PC fps's I use nothing BUT a gamepad, iv played in PC tourneys with gamepads and came in high standings. It seems only console players need aim assist because they've been babied their whole gaming life by aim assist.

In short, console players, get good, CCP remove aim assist and console babies, stop propagating kb/m is better than a gamepad, nether are better, both can be used equally well by those skilled in their prefered imput device.

Also CCP, since turn rates out the window, give both kb/m AND gamepads raw imput.

It's a PS3 game. Why don't you just use the gamepad? Now, I love using keyboard and mouse as much as anyone. It's the heart of every FPS game, but I don't have that option so I am stuck with the gamepad. It's really not that hard to just learn how to use the gamepad.

Exceptions to every rule, or you were using aim assist without realising (or admitting) it.

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the aim assist is nice.. but i havent noticed much of a difference

from 1.3 other than the armor buff..

of course i can actually aim with out aim assist any ways..


and ive still been seeing players spray and pray even with the aim assist..

Im making my own thread about this because it seems most people are dumbed down to think kb/m is so much better then a gamepad that gamepads need aim assist.

That statement is untrue, as someone who plays mainly PC fps's I use nothing BUT a gamepad, iv played in PC tourneys with gamepads and came in high standings. It seems only console players need aim assist because they've been babied their whole gaming life by aim assist.

In short, console players, get good, CCP remove aim assist and console babies, stop propagating kb/m is better than a gamepad, nether are better, both can be used equally well by those skilled in their prefered imput device.

Also CCP, since turn rates out the window, give both kb/m AND gamepads raw imput.

I used my alt who is skilled into scrambler rifles as a test of aim assist. Before 1.4 I was steady at 15 - 20 kills in an ambush with 0 - 4 deaths. With aim assist on Iv since gone 30 - 40 kills in ambush with 0 - 2 deaths.

Of course, it's not at all possible that you're simply getting better results because of the improved hit detection. Obviously.

It is worth noting that there are physical limitations with game pads that mean with players of equal skill in their preferred input method, KBM will come out top every time.

Yeah, I have maintained a 5kdr with the gamepad. Granted CQC, KBM generally destroys me due to the fact they can out-strafe me with ease.

In short, console players, get good.

console players

console

Wait, lets examine this quote more.


Once more,

Realize who you are speaking of.

Just please.

There has been aim assist since COD was conceived.

It isn't "Vet Killer"

Its playing field equalizer.

Who's better here...

This guy can turn a full 180 on a dime
Can Aim like a laser
Changes direction as fast as a car doing donuts can
Has the ability to remember how to do 30+ things without having to think about it.

Or....

He can access his equipment.

See the imbalance?

The Blatant imbalance, which, like it or not, was intentional. It was intentional ever since CCP decided to put KBM support on DUST.

That is all.

Jeez. I wish all of you would shut the hell up about the aim assist. I don't see its supposed miracle like effects. In my own findings my performance is about the same as it has been the only thing I have really noticed is that my hip fire is a lot more accurate at close range. Honestly, do you think this flood of tears is going to change any thing? Its just more qq, so please grab a towel and dry your eyes and gtfo k?

Console players need to get better, what your describing is like giving sugar pills to cancer patients. You can make them think they are getting better, or you can give them a treatment that works.

You seem to not realize the audience CCP is presenting this game to.

Console Gamers basically translate perfectly into Casual gamer.

The want instant Gratification. AA gives them that. Remove it, and they remove the playerbase.

And then the occasional Ass come on the forums and bitches about only 2K players.

AA is needed for the game to tap into its designed Playerbase.

Remove it, and the game is as before.

A B-List game with marginally cool mechanics and crap aiming.

Nobody will stop complaining about aiming unless there is aim assist.

Its ingrained in the console culture.

No AA? Crap Aiming.

With AA? OMG its Aimbot!

Make up your GD minds.

Realize who you are speaking of.

Just please.

Im making my own thread about this because it seems most people are dumbed down to think kb/m is so much better then a gamepad that gamepads need aim assist.

That statement is untrue, as someone who plays mainly PC fps's I use nothing BUT a gamepad, iv played in PC tourneys with gamepads and came in high standings. It seems only console players need aim assist because they've been babied their whole gaming life by aim assist.

In short, console players, get good, CCP remove aim assist and console babies, stop propagating kb/m is better than a gamepad, nether are better, both can be used equally well by those skilled in their prefered imput device.

Also CCP, since turn rates out the window, give both kb/m AND gamepads raw imput.

Yeah, console gamers don't have the patience to pay attention to in-depth stats like these in our games. Something so complex would only happen in a PC game.

that's where CCP has done wrong, there treating console gamers like PC gamers, this isn't a PC game, its a console game and should be developed in time so that it can keep up with the speed of console evolution.


console gamers aren't going to wait for years for this game to be perfect when they get already finished games in a fraction of the time.

It's a console game, therefore they shouldn't be catering to KBM users. KBM users complain about the DS3 aim assist, when it's in MOST other console shooters. It's on the PS3 not the PC.

KBM users should be grateful that they can even use their KB on this game. Selfish, Selfish Selfish

correction:

I take it you didn't click my links, then?

Or at best, you failed to work out what I meant by them.

I mostly play PS3 games because my laptop is barely running WinXP right now and doesn't really do gaming.

I don't like the aim assist in DUST either.

What's your excuse for the many people like me who are console gamers who don't like what CCP have done with their aim assist?

Most console shooters have aim assist, but often it's only the kind CCP refer to as "aim friction", which has been present for ages, never got turned off, and isn't connected with the aim assist on/off toggle in the options menu.

no, I didn't click on the links.

the issue is about M/KB vs Controller, nothing else matters in that sense.

And the links totally reshape the meaning behind my words. Take a look.

Then turn aim assist off... If the majority of people give some valid reasons why the aim assist should be tweaked then that's on CCP to finish the job off.

I, however, haven't gotten my hands on 1.4 yet. So I can't REALLY tell you my thoughts on aim assist until then.

it goes back the problem at hand, this is NOT a PC game, it is a CONSOLE game.

otherwise it would be available on the PC market, it is not, its only available on the playstaion market, which is a console

Jeez. I wish all of you would shut the hell up about the aim assist. I don't see its supposed miracle like effects. In my own findings my performance is about the same as it has been the only thing I have really noticed is that my hip fire is a lot more accurate at close range. Honestly, do you think this flood of tears is going to change any thing? Its just more qq, so please grab a towel and dry your eyes and gtfo k?

It's the hip fire that performs better than it should

Just like the example of a PC game with in-depth stats that I used was Armored Core, which is a CONSOLE game for the CONSOLE market with more complex walls of text and numbers than the majority of PC games out there, and my example of how console games are dumbed down compared with the complexity of PC games was Doom, which you should probably have heard of by now.

oh yes iv heard all your PC vs Console arguments, in these forums, youtube and many other sites.

the fact remains, consoles are different from PCs and the games on each platform should not cater to those who are not playing the game in the intended platform, if you want to use your M/KB, go play a PC game, if you want to use a controller, go play a console game, simple as that, you cannot make a console game and expect it to act similarly to a PC game. that's like trying to eat ice-cream with a pair of tongs over an oven.

this game is not created for PC gamers, it was created for console gamers to get introduced to the eve universe through their side.

your just lucky that CCP let you use your accessories to play this game.

It's a PS3 game. Why don't you just use the gamepad? Now, I love using keyboard and mouse as much as anyone. It's the heart of every FPS game, but I don't have that option so I am stuck with the gamepad. It's really not that hard to just learn how to use the gamepad.

And the point I was making is that Meeko's post claimed console players can't deal with complex games and need everything dumbed down for them. That's blatantly not true for a large enough portion of console gamers to support a series of more than 15 games with some of the most intricate stat-driven customisation in gaming.

Do all you guys realize PS4 is fully KB/M supported?

in every FPS for consoles, there is aim assist, this game shouldn't be an exception because a few PC gamers are playing it.

SOCOM 1, 2 and 3 beg to differ.

Before someone argues the point that those were TPS's, they could also be played in first person. Either way, they didn't have and didn't need aim assist... because console gamers didn't suck back then.

Apparently they do now.

iv played them before, amazingly my copies of the games allowed me to have aim assist on, I just went to options and found it, I ended up trading them in because the games sucked.

if your originally looking through 3r person view, then its a TPS

SOCOM 1, 2 and 3 beg to differ.

Before someone argues the point that those were TPS's, they could also be played in first person. Either way, they didn't have and didn't need aim assist... because console gamers didn't suck back then.

Apparently they do now.

Protip: Aim assist in SOCOM 1, 2 and 3 did not work online. At all. Ever. Not in any of them.

who says I played online, I lost interest in the storyline

SOCOM 1, 2 and 3 beg to differ.

Before someone argues the point that those were TPS's, they could also be played in first person. Either way, they didn't have and didn't need aim assist... because console gamers didn't suck back then.

Apparently they do now.

There was no aim assist needed simply because there was no kb/m support. MAG didn't have any aim assist either. You can't really be that blind, if controller is an aimbot, then use it. You'll probably find out that maybe controller users are just better than you at using controllers. it's not that aim assist thing.
You want competitive gameplay on a console?
Perfect. If you really want "competition" just use a controller like anybody else. As I already stated in another thread , there are many games where if you use even a specifically-build mouse for ps3 (FragFx for example) you are considered a cheater and not allowed in official tournaments and events. I remember Metal Gear Online, for example. hundreds of players have been banned because of that.

I just killed a man
Put a gun against his head
Pulled the trigger, now he's dead

Couldn't help it

Your entire post works on the assumption that I am a mouser.