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Orion Vahid
DUST University
Ivy League
181
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:04:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I hear you. I'll be bringing it up when I meet with the dev teams later this week.
I want to hug you so hard that you turn into LogiJuice  |
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Brutor Vanguard
Minmatar Republic
5926
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:40:00 -
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Hecarim Van Hohen wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So, since we will be making changes in the future, I would love it if you guys kept up with the suggestions of what you want as a Logibro when trying to repair others. Keep them coming, it will help out when we bring the changes later on. Seeing friendlies health bars when you have repair tool in your equipment slot would me awesome :3
For logi vehicles also |
Ekabel
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:43:00 -
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Signed |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
925
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:48:00 -
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I'd rather have it a feature that can be turned on or off, rather than tied to an equipment. |
J4yne C0bb
DUST University
Ivy League
88
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:48:00 -
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Signed. This was a bad idea to begin with, especially for us actual logis.
I like you guys, CCP, but this is yet another case of something the Dust community could have told you was a bad idea to begin with, if you had only asked. Should have bounced it off us first. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
925
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Posted - 2013.09.13 23:52:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:So, since we will be making changes in the future, I would love it if you guys kept up with the suggestions of what you want as a Logibro when trying to repair others. Keep them coming, it will help out when we bring the changes later on.
Give us an icon just like the revive symbol for players that need repairs or ammo.
Want an idea of how this would look? Search "Resistance 2 co-op" and look at the medic and spec ops gameplay. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
417
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:12:00 -
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Well, if we're going to get changes to make our jobs easier, then I'd love if we'd expand the "show ammo bars" idea to make them flash (red) when they're at 20-30% or to provide some indication (in addition to having the bars shown when in range while holding the tool) that people are low, especially considering that the triage information is only going to be shown to us and while our tools are out. |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
417
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Posted - 2013.09.14 00:16:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I'd rather have it a feature that can be turned on or off, rather than tied to an equipment.
This would really invalidate much of the shared squad vision and less visual clutter changes that came with 1.4. Those changes actually really improved the game, and made the scanner a powerful tool. Unfortunately, though, Logis paid the price for these changes, and I for one, am extremely pleased to know that CCP is going to work toward making our jobs easy again. |
NoExsplosionsMgee
The Vanguardians
34
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Posted - 2013.09.14 01:30:00 -
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Signed |
IgniteableAura
Pro Hic Immortalis
157
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Posted - 2013.09.14 07:36:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:So, since we will be making changes in the future, I would love it if you guys kept up with the suggestions of what you want as a Logibro when trying to repair others. Keep them coming, it will help out when we bring the changes later on.
Allow logi lavs more freedom with their reps to vehicles. Sucks to loose reps to your tank buddy because they went around light post. Also extends to infantry but at least you don't depend on cool down.
Locks also need to be faster and more obvious. Aloe us to set a priority of who gets reps. Currently it has a hard time deciding who gets reps if a bunch of friendlys are nearby. Allow us, or sy a better set of parameters for who gets reps first. Also allow us more freedom when using dual reppers. I want to take off repps on a single person without breaking lock on both.
I,m really looking forward to equipment based boosts
Lastly, give logis a bonus which keeps assault folk out of the logi class. I don't mind people using logi for killing, but don't nerf our class because assaults use the suit for more flexibility. Give us truly defined roles and we will be happy. |
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darkiller240
K-A-O-S theory
162
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:03:00 -
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sighned |
elric the enchanter
xCosmic Voidx
The Superpowers
155
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:11:00 -
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Signed
Still equip my Core repper on most of my suits but even running in a full squad, it's used maybe 30% of the time it used to be since 1.4 was released.
Example: In the midst of a firefight, squad member called out for reps - spent at least a minute trying to find each other due to lack of player names and health bars, even when often looking directly at players at close range. After much "where exactly are you" dialogue, found out we were on completely different levels & once we'd finally met up, his armour had passively repaired fully anyway! - took us both out of the fight for much longer than it should have done.
We logis definitely require a better system for quickly recognising those requiring repair. Not sure health bars being directly linked to having the rep tool equipped would work, personally - we used to be able to make a split-second decision whether to run to an area with weapon equipped before quickly switching to repper or vice versa. |
Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
172
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Posted - 2013.09.14 08:20:00 -
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Daalzebul Del'Armgo wrote:Shield rep tool
Separate armor repair hives from ammo hives. The repair hives should be another skill that comes off nano skill.
Shield repair hives for then caldari peeps
When you have rep tools out there names changes color depending on how much health they have left so you can prioritize who needs it most.
Also some type of audio cue when someone is at full health.
Audio cue when you receive a guardian points.
Nano grenades (BTW these can not be restored with ammo hives.)
A repair tool made for vehicles and installations that repair more but has an overheating function to prevent abuse.
A rep tool that heals more than the core rep tool with an overheating function to prevent abuse.
Just a few random suggestions.
Hell no. Dont sepperate the triage hives skillwise. Im not willing to spend more SP into something that i allready use on a regular base. And no to shield rep tools. Shield players allready have much better regen over armor repairs. Introducing shield reps would throw off again the fragile balance. |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
399
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Posted - 2013.09.14 11:58:00 -
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Possibly an indicator over the ally/allies with the lowest health that are nearby you? |
Mad Syringe
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
24
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Posted - 2013.09.14 12:21:00 -
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Give us at least the health bars AND the name tags for our squad members. All the time! And for every player in the squad. Since the suits and loadouts can be very similar, this is essential for squad play.
It's not only the medic who needs to know where everybody is. A good squad leader needs to know where his troops are, so that he can direct them in the right direction. You can't even read their nametags when they are to far away... that makes no sense for a game that's supposed to be squad based.
Additionally give us the healthbars of nearby friendlys in a 30m radius when we have the repper equipped.
Maybe make it optional if you want to see every friendlys bars as soon as you have healing equipment in your inventory...
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Zaria Min Deir
Ancient Exiles
140
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Posted - 2013.09.14 13:35:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:How did this get through QA? Surely someone on your QA team has even some passing knowledge of logistics/triage...
Unfortunately, I fear you're giving the QA team too much of a benefit of the doubt there... Just saying, based on not just this, but also previous issues they've let slip past them 
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Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
163
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Posted - 2013.09.14 13:58:00 -
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/Shighneded
Jebus, please let me logi again :P |
Draxus Prime
BurgezzE.T.F
Public Disorder.
1444
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Posted - 2013.09.14 14:20:00 -
[108] - Quote
signed
to rep vehicles/infantry with my logi lav i gotta get out and check there health |
dannylee80
DUST University
Ivy League
7
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Posted - 2013.09.15 00:52:00 -
[109] - Quote
Signed.
How can you see who needs help in the team.
Turn the bars back on, or give people the option to have them off or on.
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Needless Sacermendor
Red Fox Brigade
478
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Posted - 2013.09.15 01:29:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:This would really invalidate much of the shared squad vision and less visual clutter changes that came with 1.4. Those changes actually really improved the game, and made the scanner a powerful tool.
The shared squad vision was a red dot change ... but they took it to extreme and de-cluttered everything.
As I've said earlier it's probably a lot of the reason we're seeing a smoother game, since everyone isn't having to download detailed hp information about everyone in the battle.
If it would be too difficult to tie it to having specific equipment fitted ... perhaps it could be a trait of the logistics suits and vehicles, if that would be easier to code ... this isn't the ideal choice but if it means we can get a fix sooner I'm sure most would be happy with it until it dcan be tied to the triage equipment / modules.
Again ... some people still seem to be saying things liek 'When you're using a repair tool' ... THIS WILL NOT DO ... it needs to be when triage equipment is fitted to the suit you're using, otherwise I could be standing next to a heavy providing support fire with no idea that he's very low on armour and I could keep us both alive by stepping back into cover and locking a repair tool on him while he finishes everyone off.
Someone suggested changing the colour of names, that'd work, but I'd still like to see something like a couple of traffic light indicators showing shield and armour levels, maybe green for >75%, orange for 50-75%, yellow for 25-50% and red for <25% ... they don't need to be huge and can be tagged into the name line like ... #@Needless Sacermendor ... with some shield and armour symbols.
Also I think everyone should be named ... even red dots ... it makes calling targets easier, obviously only when they're scanned and visible to squad, but when they are their name should show, the shield n armour symbols could give vague target intel and when YOUR reticule is on them you get their full health bars.
So you're only downloading small amounts of info about the majority of people (16 combinations of 4 colours on 2 symbols) rather than 2 numbers in the hundreds ... the server knows how many hitpoints everyone has, but it only needs to send out a couple of colours and 1 set of bars for the one you're aimed at and we retain good performance and a decluttered display.
Anyone with a repair tool or triage hives equipped or operating a logistics vehicle gets these extra shield n armour indicators for everyone and anyone not equiped to provide repairs could get them just for scanned enemies until they have a reticule on them to bring up hp bars |
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CharCharOdell
Shining Flame
Amarr Empire
756
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Posted - 2013.09.15 05:26:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I hear you. I'll be bringing it up when I meet with the dev teams later this week.
thanks |
ShaunOP
Penguin's March
4
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Posted - 2013.09.15 10:00:00 -
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Signed. When rep tool or Injectors or armor hives are equipped to a suit fitting the health bars should be visible when using that suit. You don't need them as much if your in an assault suit, you don't care who the strawberries are. |
Argos Du'Gannon
Kairos Co-Operative
13
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Posted - 2013.09.15 11:22:00 -
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it been better for me for the last few nights, but signed. |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
413
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:36:00 -
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Signed.
Rogue Saint has a thread about HUD improvements that could (among other things) solve this problem:
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1308218 |
Rogue Saint
Science For Death
The Shadow Eclipse
195
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:38:00 -
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Cheers, thanks for highlighting my little idea  |
Timothy Reaper
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
414
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:41:00 -
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No problem. You've some good ideas, they should receive a little advertisment. |
Kalisi Marada
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
14
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Posted - 2013.09.18 10:44:00 -
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I still carry a rep tool but the only time I use it is right after I stick someone to get the bars back. The lack of health bars is a real inconvience. I am thinking about swaping it for another hive. That is not what I want to do. This can be a real asset to a heavy in the heat of battle. |
Guinevere Bravo
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
399
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Posted - 2013.09.18 11:10:00 -
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Signed & Signed.
Id also like to at least see my squadmates names through walls again.. not bothered about other team mates, just my squad at least. |
EGGREGIOUS ERROR
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.09.18 23:53:00 -
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Signed. |
Blake Kingston
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
88
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Posted - 2013.09.19 00:45:00 -
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Doesn't hurt balance at all - great idea! Signed! |
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