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wripple
WarRavens League of Infamy
37
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:02:00 -
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What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone. I don't like to rant, but this game has become an assault rifle only type game now that aim assist is back, the balancing of weapons has become so distorted now that winning in a firefight comes down to just having the bigger gun with more hp.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy. The assault rifle is now the golden weapon and semi-auto weapons are now overpowered in CQC.
I have been with this game for a long time now and I would hate to see it turn into another generic RPG where better gear = guaranteed win. Please bring back the ability for people with reflexes and good coordination to have an advantage once again. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
791
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:04:00 -
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Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums. |
Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
41
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:10:00 -
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Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off. |
wripple
WarRavens League of Infamy
41
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:11:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off. Turning it off only gives a disadvantage against everyone who has it on. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1386
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:12:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off.
I didn't realise this turns it off for everybody else too! Amazing . . . |
semperfi1999
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
850
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:13:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums.
IE I am bad at this game and I need this aim assist so shut your trap cause I am loving my new skillz! |
Halfwings Warbringer
ThislsWhyimhot
13
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:14:00 -
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This game become who got most dps and hp win the gunfight, today game player base down to 3k players |
KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
644
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:14:00 -
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Turn it on. Switch to your free/cheap suits.
Use ARs or SMGs for up close.
Strafe, point and shoot. Do Not Aim Down The Sights! Get Kills.
Just when you get used to it and think we have devolved to nothing but an uber casual game ... CCP/Shanghai will fix it.
Probably with something worse. |
Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
41
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:22:00 -
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wripple wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off. Turning it off only gives a disadvantage against everyone who has it on.
wripple wrote:What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy.
High tier gear should only be effective in skilled hands.
And you won't turn it off because you'll be at a disadvantage? |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
793
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:27:00 -
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semperfi1999 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums. IE I am bad at this game and I need this aim assist so shut your trap cause I am loving my new skillz!
Hahahahah most folks know im a tanker so aim assist dosent affect me so try again scrub. Hahaha keep up the tears. |
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1389
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:33:00 -
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Blaze Ashra wrote:wripple wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off. Turning it off only gives a disadvantage against everyone who has it on. wripple wrote:What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy.
High tier gear should only be effective in skilled hands. And you won't turn it off because you'll be at a disadvantage?
Is it really that hard a concept to grasp? He used to be able to kill people disproportionately. Now aim-assist bridges the skill gap between him and the people he used to pwn.
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Blaze Ashra
O.U.T.E.R. S.A.N.C.T.U.M.
42
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:38:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:wripple wrote:Blaze Ashra wrote:Go to options, controls, aim assist and turn it off. Turning it off only gives a disadvantage against everyone who has it on. wripple wrote:What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy.
High tier gear should only be effective in skilled hands. And you won't turn it off because you'll be at a disadvantage? Is it really that hard a concept to grasp? He used to be able to kill people disproportionately. Now aim-assist bridges the skill gap between him and the people he used to pwn.
Not at all. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1389
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:42:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums. IE I am bad at this game and I need this aim assist so shut your trap cause I am loving my new skillz! Hahahahah most folks know im a tanker so aim assist dosent affect me so try again scrub. Hahaha keep up the tears.
So, instead of benefitting from the aim-assist, you just have no experience with it, and are thereby completely unqualified to comment on it. Nice work. |
Lightning xVx
Diamond-Dogs
159
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:49:00 -
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I've just about had it with this game, it's becoming more aggravating then entertaining. They FINALLY fix the shotgun after idek how many builds, but now they also made Scouts obsolete in 1.4. I can even fight militia fit noobs without having them lock on me from like 50-75 feet away with AR's... It's just not even fair anymore and at this point a waste of time. If they fix the Auto Aim, I might stay long enough to see what's in store for Scouts in 1.5/1.6. But if nothing changes I'm deleting this account. |
Beck Weathers
High-Damage
14
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:51:00 -
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It is a joke, I had my laser rifle and shot at the middle gun in a group of 3 and my laster fires at a angle and hits and kills the gun to the left of him even tho i have the aim right on the middle guy, then not even letting off the triger the laser beam jerks to the right and head shots the right guy in the group all in about 2-3 seconds. Almost got the middle guy but since the laser went for him last he had tiem to find cover. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
795
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:54:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums. IE I am bad at this game and I need this aim assist so shut your trap cause I am loving my new skillz! Hahahahah most folks know im a tanker so aim assist dosent affect me so try again scrub. Hahaha keep up the tears. So, instead of benefitting from the aim-assist, you just have no experience with it, and are thereby completely unqualified to comment on it. Nice work.
Welll acctually I also have adv in every wepon appart from shot gun and have been testing thus apparent aim bot since the launch of 1.4 and can say I dony notice it . I still get as many kills on ground as I did before 1.4 I also die just the same so go figure . (Yes I am a tanker I have 14 mill sp in maxed shield tanks and aprox 6 mill in suits and wepons) so I can comment. I might just pick my fights better.
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1394
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:58:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:semperfi1999 wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Congratulations you are officially posting the latest QQ idont like getting shot thread. You sir win this round of dust 514forums. IE I am bad at this game and I need this aim assist so shut your trap cause I am loving my new skillz! Hahahahah most folks know im a tanker so aim assist dosent affect me so try again scrub. Hahaha keep up the tears. So, instead of benefitting from the aim-assist, you just have no experience with it, and are thereby completely unqualified to comment on it. Nice work. Welll acctually I also have adv in every wepon appart from shot gun and have been testing thus apparent aim bot since the launch of 1.4 and can say I dony notice it . I still get as many kills on ground as I did before 1.4 I also die just the same so go figure . (Yes I am a tanker I have 14 mill sp in maxed shield tanks and aprox 6 mill in suits and wepons) so I can comment. I might just pick my fights better.
So why bring up your tanker credentials to suggest that you don't benefit from aim-assist? You're contradicting yourself. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3713
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Posted - 2013.09.05 22:59:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:So, instead of benefitting from the aim-assist, you just have no experience with it, and are thereby completely unqualified to comment on it. Nice work. Outside of the few short periods where there was aim assist that never worked consistently enough to be of value before Uprising 1.4, there has only been one weapon which ever did anything resembling "aiming for you", and that's the Swarm Launcher.
Guess that makes tankers the only ones with enough "experience" against auto-aiming weapons to have a valid opinion from the target side. And AV guys the best ones to ask about it from the shooter's point of view.
I've had some issues on day one with the aim assist, and the past 2 days after hotfixes, it's seemed like it's pretty close to the level it should be. I'm still in the testing phase with it, trying to determine details about the mechanics which might help to better confirm the scale of the problem, but at the moment, I think it needs to be slightly dialled back from its current strength. |
Bazookah Tooth
The Phoenix Federation
343
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:02:00 -
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Mwuah hahahaha I have joined the militia AR race with my adv sentinel heavy. You will bow to my every whim and no talent with AR ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha
-bazookah |
ReGnYuM
TeamPlayers EoN.
849
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:04:00 -
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wripple wrote:What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone. I don't like to rant, but this game has become an assault rifle only type game now that aim assist is back, the balancing of weapons has become so distorted now that winning in a firefight comes down to just having the bigger gun with more hp.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy. The assault rifle is now the golden weapon and semi-auto weapons are now overpowered in CQC.
I have been with this game for a long time now and I would hate to see it turn into another generic RPG where having the better gear guarantees victory. High tier gear should only be effective in skilled hands. New players are not going to want to play this game if getting better gear is just the equivalent of leveling up in pokemon, if killing is an end then player skill should be the means to that end, not sp ground gear.
Never heard of you, so I am going to assume your just bad |
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Beren Hurin
The Vanguardians
1432
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:07:00 -
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Don't fight in AR range? Get a different gun? Armor tank to fight against the anti-shield advantage of the AR? Oh wait everyone specced to caldari supershield suits. But shield tanking was built for short quick engagements and mid/long range not these upclose ones. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
800
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:07:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:[quote=Chunky Munkey]
So why bring up your tanker credentials to suggest that you don't benefit from aim-assist? You're contradicting yourself.
Sigh did I say it benafited or hinderd me? You sir just want an argument im just stating what I have noticed. And I usually only run ground when solo. I also use most wepons situationally or for FUN oh gasp heven for bid fun in a game. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1394
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:16:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:So, instead of benefitting from the aim-assist, you just have no experience with it, and are thereby completely unqualified to comment on it. Nice work. Outside of the few short periods where there was aim assist that never worked consistently enough to be of value before Uprising 1.4, there has only been one weapon which ever did anything resembling "aiming for you", and that's the Swarm Launcher. Guess that makes tankers the only ones with enough "experience" against auto-aiming weapons to have a valid opinion from the target side. And AV guys the best ones to ask about it from the shooter's point of view. I've had some issues on day one with the aim assist, and the past 2 days after hotfixes, it's seemed like it's pretty close to the level it should be. I'm still in the testing phase with it, trying to determine details about the mechanics which might help to better confirm the scale of the problem, but at the moment, I think it needs to be slightly dialled back from its current strength.
Are you really making the argument that any kind of tank v infantry situation can be analogous to an infantry v infantry scenario? |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
3714
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:19:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:Are you really making the argument that any kind of tank v infantry situation can be analogous to an infantry v infantry scenario? I thought I was being a sleep-deprived idiot playing along with a bad argument for a laugh. But you're welcome to take it that way if you want |
KING CHECKMATE
TEAM SATISFACTION
846
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:20:00 -
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I just put this in another post but here it goes again.
I was testing lasers.
Saw a guy 50+ mts away.
Pressed R1.
The laser followed him even if he was running in zig zag
He Died
I just pressed R1.
Quitted Dust started playing Dark souls. That part was fun.... |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1395
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:21:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:[quote=Chunky Munkey]
So why bring up your tanker credentials to suggest that you don't benefit from aim-assist? You're contradicting yourself. Sigh did I say it benafited or hinderd me? You sir just want an argument im just stating what I have noticed. And I usually only run ground when solo. I also use most wepons situationally or for FUN oh gasp heven for bid fun in a game.
You said you were a tanker in order to avoid the criticism that you benefit from aim-assist. You then brought up your experience as infantry to avoid the criticism that you have no valid experience with aim-assist. These are mutually exclusive positions, you can't have both. All I did was call you on it. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1395
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:22:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:Are you really making the argument that any kind of tank v infantry situation can be analogous to an infantry v infantry scenario? I thought I was being a sleep-deprived idiot playing along with a bad argument for a laugh. But you're welcome to take it that way if you want
Poe's law I guess. |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
802
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:28:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Chunky Munkey wrote:pegasis prime wrote:[quote=Chunky Munkey]
So why bring up your tanker credentials to suggest that you don't benefit from aim-assist? You're contradicting yourself. Sigh did I say it benafited or hinderd me? You sir just want an argument im just stating what I have noticed. And I usually only run ground when solo. I also use most wepons situationally or for FUN oh gasp heven for bid fun in a game. You said you were a tanker in order to avoid the criticism that you benefit from aim-assist. You then brought up your experience as infantry to avoid the criticism that you have no valid experience with aim-assist. These are mutually exclusive positions, you can't have both. All I did was call you on it.
Go on quote me where I said I have benafited or been hinderd because if I did I cant find it . All I can say is I have not noteced any thing different really other than hd being better. But ibstill get the same ammount of kills when im running ground as I did pre 1.4. You called me on nothing you just assumed becaus I am a tanker that is all I do. The statment about me being a tanker to avoid what ever accusations you claim have been thrown at me was me trolling for a bit of a laugh so calm down buddy take a deep breah and know its going to be alright |
wripple
WarRavens League of Infamy
49
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:31:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:wripple wrote:What's the point in having skill shot weapons or any sort of gun game ability if aim assist is there providing an easy-kill for everyone. I don't like to rant, but this game has become an assault rifle only type game now that aim assist is back, the balancing of weapons has become so distorted now that winning in a firefight comes down to just having the bigger gun with more hp.
I am a good shot with an assault rifle, I was great at outflanking and overtaking my opponents with simple user skill and standard gear, but I can no longer say that I can outgun my opponents simply because we both hit almost every bullet at nearly every range, outgunning means just having the bigger gun now.
This game attracted me because of the learning curve and player skill that was required to beat your opponents, matches have become boring and unattractive now that killing has been made easy. The assault rifle is now the golden weapon and semi-auto weapons are now overpowered in CQC.
I have been with this game for a long time now and I would hate to see it turn into another generic RPG where having the better gear guarantees victory. High tier gear should only be effective in skilled hands. New players are not going to want to play this game if getting better gear is just the equivalent of leveling up in pokemon, if killing is an end then player skill should be the means to that end, not sp ground gear. Never heard of you, so I am going to assume your just bad Says the player with the SP to proto in 4 suits. When you don't have 50 districts to fund proto suits it becomes pretty difficult to cope with the new build, any FPS that takes the skill out of shooting a gun is either a beta or CoD. |
Viktor Zokas
High-Damage
337
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Posted - 2013.09.05 23:35:00 -
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Every time I hear the phrase 'gun game', I die a little inside. |
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