DUST Search - 1.4's aimbot is too strong

Theex 1661 wrote:

Zahle Undt wrote:

Then turn off aim assist and play as you did before. Problem solved for you.

Turning off the aim assist would create a big handicap, in my opinion. I tried it for two matches today and i needed way more time and concentration to hit the enemies, while the enemies are like blindly fireing and shooting me in seconds.

For sure, it would enhance the challenge and difficulty, but not if everybody else is using aim assist. Now with 1.4 there is a huge dig between using and not using aim assist. It's not balanced anymore...

In 1.3 i turned off aim assist very often, so i know what it felt like to play against those who had enabled it. It was challenging but fair and doable. Now in 1.4 it's like: "disable aim assist and get f****d by those who enabled it" or "enable aim assist and be bored and start hating the game"

I seriously had matches today where i killed one two enemies and started jelling: "come on!! this is f-ing ridiculous, i didnt hit them at all!!"

Greets
Theex 1661

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IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 27	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:40:00 - [1] - Quote I dont have to aim by myself anymore. Its boring. What do u think?
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:41:00 - [2] - Quote *too
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1334	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:43:00 - [3] - Quote Your a moron,
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 931	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:44:00 - [4] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Your a moron, You're would be the proper usage. Example: You're welcome for my friendly correction.
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 27	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:45:00 - [5] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Your a moron, Im not sure what that means but i guess its something negative. Anyway i am actaully just someone who wants this game to require real player skill than a freaking aimbot. It breaks the gameplay.of the dust i loved and now its gone. :(
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1334	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:46:00 - [6] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Your a moron, You're would be the proper usage. Example: You're welcome for my friendly correction. Ya, i really don't care about grammar. It's the internet not an exam.
Dust LAG-LAG-LAG-LAG 514 Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 42	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:47:00 - [7] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Your a moron, You're would be the proper usage. Example: You're welcome for my friendly correction. Ya, i really don't care about grammar. It's the internet not an exam. you fail at internet regardless
CharCharOdell Shining Flame Amarr Empire 589	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:47:00 - [8] - Quote i agree
SHOCKNOFSKY H.Y.S.T.E.R.I.A 7	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:52:00 - [9] - Quote I do not like it
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 148	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:53:00 - [10] - Quote There are actually 2 variations, magnetism and adhesion, magnetism is related to strafing, normally when you strafe, your aim translates with you!! However people counter that by aiming in the other direction, this usally cause parralx where it hinges on a point between the two players! Magnetism means that that when you attempt to readjust, sensitive drops causing a drag like effect. Adhesion works when the player attempts to track a moving player, the sensitivity adjusts to reduce flicking back and forth over a target because you keep going to far!! It changes based on the speed of your target, this means when a target start sprinting the sensitivity adjusts to keep up, this makes it feel like you are being dragged, there are not headshot wander or behind wall tracking, stopping input stops aim assist as it is still dependent on your input!-á

BIind Shot Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 34	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:57:00 - [11] - Quote IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: I dont have to aim by myself anymore. Its boring. What do u think? Why do I get the feeling you're really a KBM posing as ds3 user?
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 6	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:58:00 - [12] - Quote IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: I dont have to aim by myself anymore. Its boring. What do u think? I totally agree with your statement!! For me, as an AR user, the game makes no fun anymore... Since yesterday you dont have to aim at the enemy anymore! You just have to spray in the direction and move your charakter to the left and right a little bit. Before 1.4 i tried to hit the enemy directly in the chest and rise my crosshair to finish with headshots. It was challenging, needed a certain kind of skill to do and was rewarded through effectiveness. It was fun... Now i cant do this anymore. Now i have to be one of those retardes, who just walk right and left while shooting, spraying the bullets to the enemies direction while the aim assist do the rest, to kill effectively. Fore someone who likes this game so much like me, it's very depressing now . Greetings Theex 1661
Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 30	Posted - 2013.09.04 22:59:00 - [13] - Quote I can take it or leave it, I was pretty much happy with my aim before anyway so I don't really care if it stays or goes. I do think that all the massively over the top whining about it is pathetic though. I'm pretty sure that some people are literally crying about it.
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 30	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:00:00 - [14] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: There are actually 2 variations, magnetism and adhesion, magnetism is related to strafing, normally when you strafe, your aim translates with you!! However people counter that by aiming in the other direction, this usally cause parralx where it hinges on a point between the two players! Magnetism means that that when you attempt to readjust, sensitive drops causing a drag like effect. Adhesion works when the player attempts to track a moving player, the sensitivity adjusts to reduce flicking back and forth over a target because you keep going to far!! It changes based on the speed of your target, this means when a target start sprinting the sensitivity adjusts to keep up, this makes it feel like you are being dragged, there are not headshot wander or behind wall tracking, stopping input stops aim assist as it is still dependent on your input!-á Thats really interesting but i simply think it takes away the input to 75 percent. Its not skill basedxanymore. Dust become a cover to cover shooter. Before you didnt need cover in every sinhle situation ckz u could straf and.there avkid getting damaged. Now you do
BIind Shot Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 36	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:03:00 - [15] - Quote That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds..
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 30	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:03:00 - [16] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: I dont have to aim by myself anymore. Its boring. What do u think? Why do I get the feeling you're really a KBM posing as ds3 user? To be honest im using both. Thry both have advantages and disadvantages. But i wouldnt say that one is better than the other one
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 30	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:05:00 - [17] - Quote Rudy Vandersario wrote: I can take it or leave it, I was pretty much happy with my aim before anyway so I don't really care if it stays or goes. I do think that all the massively over the top whining about it is pathetic though. I'm pretty sure that some people are literally crying about it. I am :'(
IM-JUST TO-FAT Blauhelme Orion Empire 30	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:06:00 - [18] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. But in combination with the aimbot it becomes even more intense
BIind Shot Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 38	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:12:00 - [19] - Quote IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. But in combination with the aimbot it becomes even more intense Maybe that's what CCP was aiming for. In real gun fights it's about cover not who has the better dougi.
Kinkku-Ananas Kepappi Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 68	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:16:00 - [20] - Quote I agree, I'm going to admit that my gungame is pretty subpar, which is why I went the logistics route since beta. I don't get massive amounts of kills even with the aim assist but more than I probably should.

Rudy Vandersario The Nimbor Corporation 31	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:16:00 - [21] - Quote IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: Rudy Vandersario wrote: I can take it or leave it, I was pretty much happy with my aim before anyway so I don't really care if it stays or goes. I do think that all the massively over the top whining about it is pathetic though. I'm pretty sure that some people are literally crying about it. I am :'( You not one of the jolly fat types then?
Billi Gene Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 401	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:18:00 - [22] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. But in combination with the aimbot it becomes even more intense Maybe that's what CCP was aiming for. In real gun fights it's about cover not who has the better dougi. this fairly much sums it up for me. though to be fair, if this is the case perhaps Heavy Suits need a 1:1 strafe speed buff. They are already so slow that i can't see a problem with them being the only suits where strafe is the same speed as forward speed.
P14GU3 The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 371	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:21:00 - [23] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. But in combination with the aimbot it becomes even more intense Maybe that's what CCP was aiming for. In real gun fights it's about cover not who has the better dougi. You ain't messin with my dougie!
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster 284	Posted - 2013.09.04 23:26:00 - [24] - Quote Theex 1661 wrote: IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: I dont have to aim by myself anymore. Its boring. What do u think? I totally agree with your statement!! For me, as an AR user, the game makes no fun anymore... Since yesterday you dont have to aim at the enemy anymore! You just have to spray in the direction and move your charakter to the left and right a little bit. Before 1.4 i tried to hit the enemy directly in the chest and rise my crosshair to finish with headshots. It was challenging, needed a certain kind of skill to do and was rewarded through effectiveness. It was fun... Now i cant do this anymore. Now i have to be one of those retardes, who just walk right and left while shooting, spraying the bullets to the enemies direction while the aim assist do the rest, to kill effectively. Fore someone who likes this game so much like me, it's very depressing now . Greetings Theex 1661 Then turn off aim assist and play as you did before. Problem solved for you.
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 6	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:05:00 - [25] - Quote Zahle Undt wrote: Then turn off aim assist and play as you did before. Problem solved for you. Turning off the aim assist would create a big handicap, in my opinion. I tried it for two matches today and i needed way more time and concentration to hit the enemies, while the enemies are like blindly fireing and shooting me in seconds. For sure, it would enhance the challenge and difficulty, but not if everybody else is using aim assist. Now with 1.4 there is a huge dig between using and not using aim assist. It's not balanced anymore... In 1.3 i turned off aim assist very often, so i know what it felt like to play against those who had enabled it. It was challenging but fair and doable. Now in 1.4 it's like: "disable aim assist and get f**d by those who enabled it" or "enable aim assist and be bored and start hating the game" I seriously had matches today where i killed one two enemies and started jelling: "come on!! this is f-ing ridiculous, i didnt hit them at all!!**" Greets Theex 1661
Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 787	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:07:00 - [26] - Quote People are dying and crying...LOUD
Faquira Bleuetta Pure Innocence. EoN. 73	Posted - 2013.09.05 00:51:00 - [27] - Quote P14GU3 wrote: BIind Shot wrote: IM-JUST TO-FAT wrote: BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. But in combination with the aimbot it becomes even more intense Maybe that's what CCP was aiming for. In real gun fights it's about cover not who has the better dougi. You ain't messin with my dougie! Matrix 514
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3446	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:08:00 - [28] - Quote BIind Shot wrote: That's another thing. They nerfed strafing speeds.. Dude, they said in the patch notes that they reduced them to 90% of forward run speed. That's as far as they went.
Billi Gene Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 402	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:30:00 - [29] - Quote Theex 1661 wrote: Zahle Undt wrote: Then turn off aim assist and play as you did before. Problem solved for you. Turning off the aim assist would create a big handicap, in my opinion. I tried it for two matches today and i needed way more time and concentration to hit the enemies, while the enemies are like blindly fireing and shooting me in seconds. For sure, it would enhance the challenge and difficulty, but not if everybody else is using aim assist. Now with 1.4 there is a huge dig between using and not using aim assist. It's not balanced anymore... In 1.3 i turned off aim assist very often, so i know what it felt like to play against those who had enabled it. It was challenging but fair and doable. Now in 1.4 it's like: "disable aim assist and get f**d by those who enabled it" or "enable aim assist and be bored and start hating the game" I seriously had matches today where i killed one two enemies and started jelling: "come on!! this is f-ing ridiculous, i didnt hit them at all!!**" Greets Theex 1661 aim assist has been non existent since sometime in chromosome iirc .. if you've been using aim assist during that time it has been having a placebo effect ... ...afaik
Theex 1661 Gummibaerenbande 514 8	Posted - 2013.09.05 01:43:00 - [30] - Quote Billi Gene wrote: aim assist has been non existent since sometime in chromosome iirc .. if you've been using aim assist during that time it has been having a placebo effect ... ...afaik Who's talking about chromosome? I've been playing since public/official release date (May 14th, 2013) . And the thread is about the "new" aim assist in 1.4, so the changes from 1.3 to 1.4 . Greets Theex



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