DUST Search - If you remove the aim assist!! Than Dust is Doomed for oblivion!

Lurchasaurus wrote:

g4 status wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

g4 status wrote:

Lurchasaurus wrote:

COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming.

COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other.

There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this.

Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money.

The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries.

because it is ez mode, makes bad players feel like they are good, and then sells them a map pack every year for 60 bucks

there are studies, there are vids, hell EA and activision have said themselves this is what they do. it caters to the entitled kids and again, has ruined a genre of gaming.

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g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:26:00 - [1] - Quote Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1495	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:26:00 - [2] - Quote COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:28:00 - [3] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1498	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:29:00 - [4] - Quote g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:30:00 - [5] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name????
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:30:00 - [6] - Quote keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 - [7] - Quote g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 455	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 - [8] - Quote Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input
McFurious TeamPlayers EoN. 335	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 - [9] - Quote I hate aim assist as a KBM player but I understand it's a necessity in most console shooters so I can live with it. It just doesn't need to be aimbot status. DS3 players aren't that inept at aiming.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 - [10] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game. vets you mean keyboard and mouse right... not vets. the minority.

g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 - [11] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input i like that compromise
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 592	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 - [12] - Quote g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:33:00 - [13] - Quote bolsh lee wrote: Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 592	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 - [14] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. If more would've followed the SOCOM mold instead of Call of Duty...
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1498	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 - [15] - Quote g4 status wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay. actually most PC gamers laugh their tit.s off at console players.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries.
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 127	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 - [17] - Quote g4 status wrote: Mossellia Delt wrote: keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game. vets you mean keyboard and mouse right... not vets. the minority. Excuse me, I am a gamepad only user. Dont think I speak for kb/m users.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1498	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:36:00 - [18] - Quote g4 status wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries. because it is ez mode, makes bad players feel like they are good, and then sells them a map pack every year for 60 bucks there are studies, there are vids, hell EA and activision have said themselves this is what they do. it caters to the entitled kids and again, has ruined a genre of gaming.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:37:00 - [19] - Quote All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay!
I-Can't Feel My-Legs Valor Company Incorporated 18	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:37:00 - [20] - Quote Remove aim assist. Remove KBM support. Done.

g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 - [21] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good.
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1499	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 - [22] - Quote g4 status wrote: All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with.
bolsh lee Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 456	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 - [23] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: bolsh lee wrote: Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off. Sounds good this is what we should be pushing for; CCP Wolfman unlock us all, isn't that what CCP is all about freedom of choice ?
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 - [24] - Quote I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote: Remove aim assist. Remove KBM support. Done. remove you suckka, remove KBM cause its a console game.
DTOracle The Surrogates Of War 122	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:39:00 - [25] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. I couldn't agree more. The primary reason I enjoy Dust, is because it's not a COD style shooter. Should they remove 'auto aim'? YES. But they should give DS3 users 'aim assist'. In other words don't remove it completely, just tone it down.
g4 status Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 - [26] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: g4 status wrote: All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with. you call that logic, i call it silly. keep trying to prove me wrong cause it aint working.
BIind Shot Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder. 11	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 - [27] - Quote Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
sammus420 Goonfeet Top Men. 329	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 - [28] - Quote I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer.
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. 69	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 - [29] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. I agree that COD soiled gaming a lot and I hate them for it, but not everything they do is wrong.Their games are very balanced for instance. The only real game breaking imbalance the game had was noon tubes, way back when. Hell I'd say cod 4 was one of the best games I've ever played, but it just became stale and copy pasted from then on. Aim assist has been a staple for console shooters for a long time now. I can't think of a console shooter from the last 5 years that doesnt have it except for single player games such as fallout, which is a RPG more than a shooter.
burning powers Algintal Core Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 - [30] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: g4 status wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: g4 status wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries. because it is ez mode, makes bad players feel like they are good, and then sells them a map pack every year for 60 bucks there are studies, there are vids, hell EA and activision have said themselves this is what they do. it caters to the entitled kids and again, has ruined a genre of gaming. mass driver is ez mode, this whole game has that problem. As for as BF those are great shooting mechanics, and i think aim assist is good right now.



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