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g4 status
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:26:00 -
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Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:26:00 -
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COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:28:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:29:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks.
CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:30:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:30:00 -
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keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 -
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Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input |
McFurious
TeamPlayers EoN.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:31:00 -
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I hate aim assist as a KBM player but I understand it's a necessity in most console shooters so I can live with it. It just doesn't need to be aimbot status. DS3 players aren't that inept at aiming. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game. vets you mean keyboard and mouse right... not vets. the minority. |
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g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input i like that compromise |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:32:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this.
Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:33:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input
Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. If more would've followed the SOCOM mold instead of Call of Duty... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 -
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g4 status wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay.
actually most PC gamers laugh their tit.s off at console players. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:34:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game. vets you mean keyboard and mouse right... not vets. the minority.
Excuse me, I am a gamepad only user. Dont think I speak for kb/m users. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1498
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:36:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries.
because it is ez mode, makes bad players feel like they are good, and then sells them a map pack every year for 60 bucks
there are studies, there are vids, hell EA and activision have said themselves this is what they do. it caters to the entitled kids and again, has ruined a genre of gaming. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:37:00 -
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All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! |
I-Can't Feel My-Legs
Valor Company Incorporated
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:37:00 -
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Remove aim assist. Remove KBM support. Done. |
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g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 -
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g4 status wrote:All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay!
ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with. |
bolsh lee
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
456
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off.
Sounds good this is what we should be pushing for; CCP Wolfman unlock us all, isn't that what CCP is all about freedom of choice ? |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:38:00 -
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I-Can't Feel My-Legs wrote:Remove aim assist. Remove KBM support. Done. remove you suckka, remove KBM cause its a console game. |
DTOracle
The Surrogates Of War
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:39:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. I couldn't agree more. The primary reason I enjoy Dust, is because it's not a COD style shooter. Should they remove 'auto aim'? YES. But they should give DS3 users 'aim assist'. In other words don't remove it completely, just tone it down. |
g4 status
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with. you call that logic, i call it silly. keep trying to prove me wrong cause it aint working. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
11
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 -
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Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
329
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:40:00 -
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I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. I agree that COD soiled gaming a lot and I hate them for it, but not everything they do is wrong.Their games are very balanced for instance. The only real game breaking imbalance the game had was noon tubes, way back when. Hell I'd say cod 4 was one of the best games I've ever played, but it just became stale and copy pasted from then on.
Aim assist has been a staple for console shooters for a long time now. I can't think of a console shooter from the last 5 years that doesnt have it except for single player games such as fallout, which is a RPG more than a shooter. |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. The money speaks though, why else would the facts show COD and BF3 leading shooting industries. because it is ez mode, makes bad players feel like they are good, and then sells them a map pack every year for 60 bucks there are studies, there are vids, hell EA and activision have said themselves this is what they do. it caters to the entitled kids and again, has ruined a genre of gaming. mass driver is ez mode, this whole game has that problem. As for as BF those are great shooting mechanics, and i think aim assist is good right now. |
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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
128
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
128
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:43:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off. Sounds good this is what we should be pushing for; CCP Wolfman unlock us all, isn't that what CCP is all about freedom of choice ?
I know right? |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:43:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that. |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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A shame I can't down vote this thread... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good.
thats the problem, its not good.
answers here |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :) |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1499
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with. you call that logic, i call it silly. keep trying to prove me wrong cause it aint working.
there you go^^^^
check my recent post |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
329
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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burning powers wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that.
A dedicated DS3 user who doesn't feel intimidated by keyboard and mouse users would. One someone gets good, they don't need help aiming. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
128
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:46:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
good to know you have an alt that you can double your propaganda with |
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:47:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good. thats the problem, its not good. answers here Yeah COD sucks, but aim assist is fine. Shooting mechanics are for console shooting not a PC shooting mechincs and the Keyboard and mouse guys get the raw turn ability while controllers cant handle it because of twitch vs wrist control. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
53
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:47:00 -
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FPS games that don't have LDS, have this thing called aimbot... you would hotkey it to your mouse and then toggle it when aiming .... what you are doing is no different right now... if you goal is merely to jump on and have a computer kill things your generally looking at... i really don't know how to argue with a person like that.... First person shooters are about skill, the people who complain that it takes to long to kill someone or want a computer to track someone for them .... just special.. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
71
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:50:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:burning powers wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that. A dedicated DS3 user who doesn't feel intimidated by keyboard and mouse users would. One someone gets good, they don't need help aiming. So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys? |
pyramidhead 420
89th Infantry Division
12
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:51:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :)
aim assist is here to stay and the kb/m guys are butthurt about it |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:51:00 -
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I use DS3...and I have ALWAYS been AGAINST aim assist. Say what you want, but it is indeed a crutch that lesser skilled players not only use extensively but also rely on. It negates skill, simple as that. Good players (not g4 apparently) will tell you that. |
Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
145
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:52:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted.
I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely.
Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills.
You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons.
Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:52:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote: COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other.
There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good. thats the problem, its not good. answers here Yeah COD sucks, but aim assist is fine. Shooting mechanics are for console shooting not a PC shooting mechincs and the Keyboard and mouse guys get the raw turn ability while controllers cant handle it because of twitch vs wrist control.
get off your alt and get your head out of your ass.
People used to think the world was flat, doesnt mean they are right. Propogating bad gameplay mechanics simply because someone else did it or because you think you need to cater to the shi.tty gamer is literally the WORST logic here. Dust is trying to be better than that and you are acting like a middle eastern man holding women and cultural progression back |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:54:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:burning powers wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :) aim assist is here to stay and the kb/m guys are butthurt about it
aim assist is fundamental in a console FPS and needed. It helps to stymie an inherent problem with joysticks and their lack of precision.
Aimbots however, are not needed. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:54:00 -
[49] - Quote
g4 status wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay. Answered it yourself.
Though lumping the rest of the console gamers into your category is a bit unfair. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:55:00 -
[50] - Quote
Scalesdini wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted. I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely. Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills. You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons. Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim.
boom logic
noone likes to be told they are bad. everyone wants to be good. aint that the shi.ts? |
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens
430
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:59:00 -
[51] - Quote
Funny how this crutch has been ingame for less than 1 day and you have tards defending the crap out of it.
Crutch users best users |
Shadow Of-Chaos
Club Midnight
48
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:01:00 -
[52] - Quote
sure OP, screw the minority. we can just cut them loose, we dont need that group of players. and then the next time an issue arises, we'll just cut that minority too, **** them. oh whats thats? another minority group of players has a problem with something? eh whatever, they can get lost and play some other game. now that you've upset all those groups, they add up into a majority, and now that majority is fed up and not playing anymore, and Dust is left to quietly die.
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BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
11
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:03:00 -
[53] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT
No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3419
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:05:00 -
[54] - Quote
g4 status wrote:Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive. Look, no one is talking about removing aim assist entirely. I think we can agree that the aim assist we have right now is a little excessive. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 -
[55] - Quote
BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise.
The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
83
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 -
[56] - Quote
abit dramatic.... but aim assist can stay, i don't think dust is dying actually it grew 500 players the last two weeks. Or maybe it was a month span... but yeah we r growing. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
235
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
[57] - Quote
BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
The best guys in my corp use the playstation control, you can be good with either control device. Should this not all be about making the control experience good for all? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
[58] - Quote
Mobius Wyvern wrote:g4 status wrote:Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive. Look, no one is talking about removing aim assist entirely. I think we can agree that the aim assist we have right now is a little excessive.
Some of us are, remove it and give both gamepads and kb/m raw imput. Let ****** players suffer for being ******. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
12
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
[59] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:burning powers wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. good to know you have an alt that you can double your propaganda with
The funny thing is that wasn't me. I'm Blind Shot, Big Blind shot and Where's Waldo. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
84
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:10:00 -
[60] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise. The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling) |
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Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
388
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:11:00 -
[61] - Quote
wow so many frayed emotions...
Aim Assist is here to stay. It probably needs fine tuning, but i'd prefer that all play styles can flourish, thereby promoting a healthy and DIVERSE player base.
keep the hate in your pants, no one needs to see it :P |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:13:00 -
[62] - Quote
Minor Treat wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise. The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling)
Its not allow in professional league tourneys, for one since PC fps's dont have 1st party support for aim assist. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
12
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:14:00 -
[63] - Quote
Scalesdini wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted. I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely. Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills. You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons. Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim.
I have a kdr of 1.7 and goes up every day. I run 2-3 kdr and that was when the aim assist disabled. I know it's not stellar but I do know it's better than a lot of other players. And I forgot to mention I only have 5.7m SP. |
Zatara Rought
TeamPlayers EoN.
1131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:17:00 -
[64] - Quote
sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer.
QFT I use DS3, any 2 noobs can 2v1 me now with the aim assist....before I was Rambo |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1502
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:19:00 -
[65] - Quote
Billi Gene wrote:wow so many frayed emotions...
Aim Assist is here to stay. It probably needs fine tuning, but i'd prefer that all play styles can flourish, thereby promoting a healthy and DIVERSE player base.
keep the hate in your pants, no one needs to see it :P
the sooner you get away from that COD mentality the better. aim assist is needed, aimbots are not
here is a video for lols
exmaple found this one ^ |
Khal V'Rani
Nephilim Initiative
278
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:22:00 -
[66] - Quote
Dooooooooooomed!
Another doom and damnation thread. Yea. |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
331
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:23:00 -
[67] - Quote
Fizzer94 wrote: So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys?
I don't have a problem with them. Balancing KBM and controllers is a whole seporate issue that can't be solved by giving us amazing aim bots that render ADS useless. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
13
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:32:00 -
[68] - Quote
No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise. [/quote]
The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. [/quote] ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling)[/quote]
Its not allow in professional league tourneys, for one since PC fps's dont have 1st party support for aim assist.[/quote]
That's because PC doesn't need aim assist. We're talking strictly consoles here. Every Console FPS has aim assist whether you know about it because it has an option to disable it or not. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:33:00 -
[69] - Quote
Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
13
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp.
Right I like how you insulted me without even providing ground to stand on. And for your info this is the sister/training corp for STB. Don't believe me? Attack or districts and see how quickly we leave you with nothing. |
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Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
73
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:36:00 -
[71] - Quote
sammus420 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys?
I don't have a problem with them. Balancing KBM and controllers is a whole seporate issue that can't be solved by giving us amazing aim bots that render ADS useless.
I agree it is too powerful and is doing too much work, all it should do is snap to the target when you aim down sights and the reticle is close to an enemy, not track them. But it should stay in a weaker form. |
Racro 01 Arifistan
The Surrogates Of War
32
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:38:00 -
[72] - Quote
ccp dosnt really make much money from dust.................. thats whats eve is for. it has varying payment plans and of course plex is always a wanted commodity so people pay to by plex for $15-20 then use it for game time (not likley) or sell them in game for aproximatley 550 million isk last i checked. |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
331
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:56:00 -
[73] - Quote
Fizzer94 wrote: I agree it is too powerful and is doing too much work, all it should do is snap to the target when you aim down sights and the reticle is close to an enemy, not track them. But it should stay in a weaker form.
I agree to a point, it is far too powerful. Maybe if it's scaled back to an appropriate level to where ADS is still useful, I could even agree it has a place. In pub matches. Not faction warfare or PC. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1507
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:03:00 -
[74] - Quote
BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp. Right I like how you insulted me without even providing ground to stand on. And for your info this is the sister/training corp for STB. Don't believe me? Attack our districts and see how quickly we leave you with nothing.
Grrrrrrrr........i smell someone picking on ntn..............
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Faquira Bleuetta
Pure Innocence. EoN.
70
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:06:00 -
[75] - Quote
Zatara Rought wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. QFT I use DS3, any 2 noobs can 2v1 me now with the aim assist....before I was Rambo
lol funny **** i can doo 3v1 wit aim assist and win most the time. |
Cosgar
ParagonX
4703
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:09:00 -
[76] - Quote
After almost 4 months of not having aim-assist, I think you guys are overreacting a bit. It's really not as extreme as you guys are making it out to be. It's pretty counter intuitive when you ADS but favors hip firing. Hit detection is also noticeably better too, so don't forget to factor that in as well. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
13
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:35:00 -
[77] - Quote
http://techreport.com/news/19320/keyboard-mouse-may-have-sunk-microsoft-cross-platform-gaming-plans |
Jammeh McJam
Robbing The Hood
21
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:38:00 -
[78] - Quote
Mossellia Delt wrote:keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game.
^^this
I've stuck around since the start of beta with no aim assist and everything was fine, don't f*ck it up and lose the vets |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1511
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:40:00 -
[79] - Quote
BIind Shot wrote:http://techreport.com/news/19320/keyboard-mouse-may-have-sunk-microsoft-cross-platform-gaming-plans
duh
try giving CCP props for knowing this ahead of time and still trying to do what others couldnt
you really think all these thigns you people are saying havent been said already in the past? try reading threads FROM OVER A YEAR AGO where m+kb werent yet ingame. Nothing new here, and we still got m+kb in. |
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