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Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:42:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
128
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:43:00 -
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bolsh lee wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:bolsh lee wrote:Simple leave the aim asist give the kb/m raw input Give gamepads raw imput as well then. It feels like im fighting with the sticks even with aim assist off. Sounds good this is what we should be pushing for; CCP Wolfman unlock us all, isn't that what CCP is all about freedom of choice ?
I know right? |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:43:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that. |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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A shame I can't down vote this thread... |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1499
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:44:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good.
thats the problem, its not good.
answers here |
burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :) |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1499
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:All you Hater aim assist got nothing on this, its the aim assist its a console game and it here to stay! ran out of logic to respond with huh? dont be so lazy, i still have plenty of stuff to prove you wrong with. you call that logic, i call it silly. keep trying to prove me wrong cause it aint working.
there you go^^^^
check my recent post |
sammus420
Goonfeet Top Men.
329
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:45:00 -
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burning powers wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that.
A dedicated DS3 user who doesn't feel intimidated by keyboard and mouse users would. One someone gets good, they don't need help aiming. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
128
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:46:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
good to know you have an alt that you can double your propaganda with |
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burning powers
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:47:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other. There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good. thats the problem, its not good. answers here Yeah COD sucks, but aim assist is fine. Shooting mechanics are for console shooting not a PC shooting mechincs and the Keyboard and mouse guys get the raw turn ability while controllers cant handle it because of twitch vs wrist control. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles
53
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:47:00 -
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FPS games that don't have LDS, have this thing called aimbot... you would hotkey it to your mouse and then toggle it when aiming .... what you are doing is no different right now... if you goal is merely to jump on and have a computer kill things your generally looking at... i really don't know how to argue with a person like that.... First person shooters are about skill, the people who complain that it takes to long to kill someone or want a computer to track someone for them .... just special.. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
71
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:50:00 -
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sammus420 wrote:burning powers wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer. thats totally bogus. a dedicated DS3 users wouldnt even say that. A dedicated DS3 user who doesn't feel intimidated by keyboard and mouse users would. One someone gets good, they don't need help aiming. So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys? |
pyramidhead 420
89th Infantry Division
12
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:51:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :)
aim assist is here to stay and the kb/m guys are butthurt about it |
Lea Silencio
D3ath D3alers
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:51:00 -
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I use DS3...and I have ALWAYS been AGAINST aim assist. Say what you want, but it is indeed a crutch that lesser skilled players not only use extensively but also rely on. It negates skill, simple as that. Good players (not g4 apparently) will tell you that. |
Scalesdini
The Surrogates Of War
145
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:52:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted.
I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely.
Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills.
You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons.
Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:52:00 -
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burning powers wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:g4 status wrote: COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. COD is the highest selling game in history, so follow the leader in terms of gameplay and follow your ambition for future plans to sync PC and console games like no other.
There's a difference between making while having great entertainment with a good community, solid dev support, and ignoring the trend to make something special, and following the trend, selling your soul to make as much money as possible because you want to make the popular thing, ie a Call of Duty clone. DICE did this with BF3. Homefront did this. Why should CCP sell out to make a ton of money? It's like a band selling out in the 80s, instead making popular music so they can make a ton of money. its not selling out if its good. thats the problem, its not good. answers here Yeah COD sucks, but aim assist is fine. Shooting mechanics are for console shooting not a PC shooting mechincs and the Keyboard and mouse guys get the raw turn ability while controllers cant handle it because of twitch vs wrist control.
get off your alt and get your head out of your ass.
People used to think the world was flat, doesnt mean they are right. Propogating bad gameplay mechanics simply because someone else did it or because you think you need to cater to the shi.tty gamer is literally the WORST logic here. Dust is trying to be better than that and you are acting like a middle eastern man holding women and cultural progression back |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:54:00 -
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pyramidhead 420 wrote:burning powers wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT I am going to join you in this, copy paste :) aim assist is here to stay and the kb/m guys are butthurt about it
aim assist is fundamental in a console FPS and needed. It helps to stymie an inherent problem with joysticks and their lack of precision.
Aimbots however, are not needed. |
dustwaffle
Ill Omens
429
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:54:00 -
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g4 status wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:g4 status wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:COD does just this and has ruined a genre of gaming. COD did this so do it too CCP so you can make alot of money and thrive as a game industry. Money talks. CCP thrives and makes money going against the grain. EVE is the poster child of that. Next. If thats the case how come most console guys don't know their name???? oh cause we console guys are soooo dumbbbbb .............. yeah okay. Answered it yourself.
Though lumping the rest of the console gamers into your category is a bit unfair. |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1500
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:55:00 -
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Scalesdini wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted. I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely. Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills. You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons. Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim.
boom logic
noone likes to be told they are bad. everyone wants to be good. aint that the shi.ts? |
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dustwaffle
Ill Omens
430
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:59:00 -
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Funny how this crutch has been ingame for less than 1 day and you have tards defending the crap out of it.
Crutch users best users |
Shadow Of-Chaos
Club Midnight
48
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:01:00 -
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sure OP, screw the minority. we can just cut them loose, we dont need that group of players. and then the next time an issue arises, we'll just cut that minority too, **** them. oh whats thats? another minority group of players has a problem with something? eh whatever, they can get lost and play some other game. now that you've upset all those groups, they add up into a majority, and now that majority is fed up and not playing anymore, and Dust is left to quietly die.
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BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
11
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:03:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT
No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise.
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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3419
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:05:00 -
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g4 status wrote:Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive. Look, no one is talking about removing aim assist entirely. I think we can agree that the aim assist we have right now is a little excessive. |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
129
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise.
The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
83
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:08:00 -
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abit dramatic.... but aim assist can stay, i don't think dust is dying actually it grew 500 players the last two weeks. Or maybe it was a month span... but yeah we r growing. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
235
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
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BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.
The best guys in my corp use the playstation control, you can be good with either control device. Should this not all be about making the control experience good for all? |
Mossellia Delt
Militaires Sans Jeux
131
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:g4 status wrote:Listen to the console shooters because that is your market! the PC keyboard guys are the minority market. If you appease the larger market you will get more money and will allow the game to survive and thrive. You remove aim assist and most Console market will migrate away from Dust into PS2 and BF4 which are looking like most of the people already might do. So keep the aim assist or you will lose over half of your current customer base and Dust will not survive. Look, no one is talking about removing aim assist entirely. I think we can agree that the aim assist we have right now is a little excessive.
Some of us are, remove it and give both gamepads and kb/m raw imput. Let ****** players suffer for being ******. |
BIind Shot
Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
12
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:09:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:burning powers wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. good to know you have an alt that you can double your propaganda with
The funny thing is that wasn't me. I'm Blind Shot, Big Blind shot and Where's Waldo. |
Minor Treat
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
84
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Posted - 2013.09.04 06:10:00 -
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Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick. STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise. The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling) |
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