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          Billi Gene 
          Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:11:00 -
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          wow so many frayed emotions... 
  Aim Assist is here to stay. It probably needs fine tuning, but i'd prefer that all play styles can flourish, thereby promoting a healthy and DIVERSE player base.
  keep the hate in your pants, no one needs to see it :P | 
      
      
      
          
          Mossellia Delt 
          Militaires Sans Jeux
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:13:00 -
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          Minor Treat wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.  STOP PROPAGATING THIS BULLSHIT  No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise.  The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC.   ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling)  
  Its not allow in professional league tourneys, for one since PC fps's dont have 1st party support for aim assist. | 
      
      
      
          
          BIind Shot 
          Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:14:00 -
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          Scalesdini wrote:BIind Shot wrote:Dust is ps3 exclusive not released on pc or any other console. The people we're fighting are people who fell in love with being god because they've been rapping us with their mouse while our aim assist has been either broken or disabled for as long as I've played this game (3-4 months). The truth is every console fps on the market in the last 12 years(since halo 1) has had some kind of aim assist. It's especially necessary with a quarter to half of the players using a mouse which has been proven to be a hell of a lot more accurate than a thumb stick.  SOCOM 1-3 didn't have aim assist. Bad shooters intended for bad players have had aim assist for a decade, that doesn't mean it's needed or wanted. I only use a DS3. I do not use vehicles or explosive weapons of any sort - hell, I only use flux grenades for that matter - and always have. This aimbot assist is terrible. It needs tuned way down, or removed entirely. Stop trying to make it seem like people who use a controller are hamfisted tallywhacking pudsmackers who can't compete with kbm. Just because you're getting mowed down by a decent player with kbm doesn't mean kbm is superior, it means you suck. I stepped away from the game for nearly eight months (and have not played a  single shooter in that eight months), came back 10 days ago, and have improved my KDR by .15 in that time. Without aim assist. I have over 7,000 kills. You are bad with a controller. You would likely be bad with a mouse. That's just being bad. Those who are good with their preferred input device are already on a level playing field, stop blaming mousers for your ineptitude at aiming. It's not "especially necessary" to have aim assist because some people use a mouse instead of a controller, you're just looking for an excuse for your sheer incompetence when it comes to one of the most important parts of a shooting game - aiming the ******* weapons. Get rid of aim assist and I'll gladly host classes for bluebs like this kid who need to learn how2aim.  
 
  I have a kdr of 1.7 and goes up every day. I run 2-3 kdr and that was when the aim assist disabled. I know it's not stellar but I do know it's better than a lot of other players. And I forgot to mention I only have 5.7m SP. | 
      
      
      
          
          Zatara Rought 
          TeamPlayers EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:17:00 -
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          sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer.  
  QFT I use DS3, any 2 noobs can 2v1 me now with the aim assist....before I was Rambo | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:19:00 -
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          Billi Gene wrote:wow so many frayed emotions... 
  Aim Assist is here to stay. It probably needs fine tuning, but i'd prefer that all play styles can flourish, thereby promoting a healthy and DIVERSE player base.
  keep the hate in your pants, no one needs to see it :P  
  the sooner you get away from that COD mentality the better. aim assist is needed, aimbots are not
  here is a video for lols
  exmaple found this one ^ | 
      
      
      
          
          Khal V'Rani 
          Nephilim Initiative
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:22:00 -
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          Dooooooooooomed!
  Another doom and damnation thread. Yea.   | 
      
      
      
          
          sammus420 
          Goonfeet Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:23:00 -
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          Fizzer94 wrote: So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys?
  
  I don't have a problem with them. Balancing KBM and controllers is a whole seporate issue that can't be solved by giving us amazing aim bots that render ADS useless. | 
      
      
      
          
          BIind Shot 
          Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:32:00 -
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  No BS it's all true. I read in gameinformer how halo revolutionized console FPS's by adding it's ground breaking aim assist and how it paved the way for all our console FPS's; favorites or otherwise. [/quote]
  The bullshit is that gamepad users are gimped vs kb/m. I am a PC FPS gamer, I use gamepads, Iv been in professional league tournements and used gamepads and Iv come in the top 5 of some of them. Console users are just ****** players because they have been relying on aim assist and arnt allowed raw imput unlike on the PC. [/quote] ummm aim assist is allowed in all tourneys of play. its only segregated by lower league memberships of tourneys; Local Tourneys. (lol i ****** up on spelling)[/quote]
  Its not allow in professional league tourneys, for one since PC fps's dont have 1st party support for aim assist.[/quote]
 
  That's because PC doesn't need aim assist. We're talking strictly consoles here. Every Console FPS has aim assist whether you know about it because it has an option to disable it or not. | 
      
      
      
          
          Mossellia Delt 
          Militaires Sans Jeux
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:33:00 -
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  Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp. | 
      
      
      
          
          BIind Shot 
          Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:35:00 -
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          Mossellia Delt wrote:Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp.  
 
  Right I like how you insulted me without even providing ground to stand on. And for your info this is the sister/training corp for STB. Don't believe me? Attack or districts and see how quickly we leave you with nothing. | 
      
      
      
          
          Fizzer94 
          L.O.T.I.S.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:36:00 -
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          sammus420 wrote:Fizzer94 wrote: So you are saying give KBM users an obvious edge over the typical DS3 user because you aren't bothered by KBM guys?
  I don't have a problem with them. Balancing KBM and controllers is a whole seporate issue that can't be solved by giving us amazing aim bots that render ADS useless.  
  I agree it is too powerful and is doing too much work, all it should do is snap to the target when you aim down sights and the reticle is close to an enemy, not track them. But it should stay in a weaker form. | 
      
      
      
          
          Racro 01 Arifistan 
          The Surrogates Of War
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:38:00 -
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          ccp dosnt really make much money from dust.................. thats whats eve is for. it has varying payment plans and of course plex is always a wanted commodity so people pay to by plex for $15-20 then use it for game time (not likley) or sell them in game for aproximatley 550 million isk last i checked. | 
      
      
      
          
          sammus420 
          Goonfeet Top Men.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 06:56:00 -
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          Fizzer94 wrote: I agree it is too powerful and is doing too much work, all it should do is snap to the target when you aim down sights and the reticle is close to an enemy, not track them. But it should stay in a weaker form.
  
  I agree to a point, it is far too powerful. Maybe if it's scaled back to an appropriate level to where ADS is still useful, I could even agree it has a place. In pub matches. Not faction warfare or PC. | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:03:00 -
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          BIind Shot wrote:Mossellia Delt wrote:Its like talking to one who is mentally slow, I guess you're in the right corp.  Right I like how you insulted me without even providing ground to stand on. And for your info this is the sister/training corp for STB. Don't believe me? Attack our districts and see how quickly we leave you with nothing.  
  Grrrrrrrr........i smell someone picking on ntn..............
 
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          Faquira Bleuetta 
          Pure Innocence. EoN.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:06:00 -
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          Zatara Rought wrote:sammus420 wrote:I'm a dedicated DS3 user, and I say removed aim assist. Gun battles should be determined by skill, not by a computer.  QFT I use DS3, any 2 noobs can 2v1 me now with the aim assist....before I was Rambo   
  lol funny **** i can doo 3v1 wit aim assist and win most the time. | 
      
      
      
          
          Cosgar 
          ParagonX
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:09:00 -
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          After almost 4 months of not having aim-assist, I think you guys are overreacting a bit. It's really not as extreme as you guys are making it out to be. It's pretty counter intuitive when you ADS but favors hip firing. Hit detection is also noticeably better too, so don't forget to factor that in as well. | 
      
      
      
          
          BIind Shot 
          Neanderthal Nation Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:35:00 -
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          http://techreport.com/news/19320/keyboard-mouse-may-have-sunk-microsoft-cross-platform-gaming-plans | 
      
      
      
          
          Jammeh McJam 
          Robbing The Hood
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:38:00 -
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          Mossellia Delt wrote:keep aim assist and the vets will leave because its bullshit. Who does CCP want to keep, casuals or people who have stuck around playing this game.  
  ^^this
  I've stuck around since the start of beta with no aim assist and everything was fine, don't f*ck it up and lose the vets | 
      
      
      
          
          Lurchasaurus 
          SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
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        Posted - 2013.09.04 07:40:00 -
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          BIind Shot wrote:http://techreport.com/news/19320/keyboard-mouse-may-have-sunk-microsoft-cross-platform-gaming-plans  
  duh
 
  try giving CCP props for knowing this ahead of time and still trying to do what others couldnt
  you really think all these thigns you people are saying havent been said already in the past? try reading threads FROM OVER A YEAR AGO where m+kb werent yet ingame. Nothing new here, and we still got m+kb in. | 
      
      
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