So while we were stuck in an Ashlands Domination with the only Null Cannon broken (blocked by the building) me and 3 of my corp-mates and one guy from A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. decided to test out the noob-theory. Since the only null-cannon was blocked and the entire red team rage quit (there may have been some redlining involved. Did you know you could run completely around most of the buildings in their redline, take a second or two to kill someone who has spawned in, and still have seconds to spare when you get out the other side of the building?) our MCCs were mutually at 50% shield and 100% armor.

After about 30 minutes of trying to crash the A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. guy's LAV's and tanks by eject crashing my LAV into him and his vehicles, and jarring his dropship enough to make him crash into the ground and almost blowing up, he hid, and I got bored. So I jumped into my LAV's missile turret and as though I were angrily shaking my fist at the CCP gods themselves, I began shooting the enemy MCC. And then I saw it...

Soon I started to notice that Their MCC had 1/2 a bar less then ours. As soon as my corp-mates confirmed what I saw (and believed me) they each chimed in calling lav's and Tanks, and now the enemy MCC was 3 bars less than ours! Even our A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. friend was a believer! I zealously drove my LAV around the map frantically searching for any large turret and quickly abandoned my old-faithful for the bigger stronger gun! We were going to be the first ones EVER! History in the making!!!! 11,000 + kills and 1 MCC. My camera ready to for the End of Battle screen to show everyone just how much damage I had done! What would happen? How many war points for killing an MCC???????

...

The last time I checked, the enemy MCC was around nine whole bars less than ours with only about 30% Armor remaining... and then, like a CCP bully with their arm extended, palm pushing back on my forehead while I swung my short, stubby arms as hard as I could, the CCP bully got bored. We were all suicided and ejected out of the game, no End of Match screen, no credit, no nothing. Thus ended my first day in Dust 514 version 1.4.


So shooting the MCC does help.

This used to be easily done back in closed beta. Thought it was removed.

were going to have legions of rail tanks shooting the MCC again arnt we.....

i wonder just how much damage a railtank could do to the MCC during a game if this is true

So while we were stuck in an Ashlands Domination with the only Null Cannon broken (blocked by the building) me and 3 of my corp-mates and one guy from A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. decided to test out the noob-theory. Since the only null-cannon was blocked and the entire red team rage quit (there may have been some redlining involved. Did you know you could run completely around most of the buildings in their redline, take a second or two to kill someone who has spawned in, and still have seconds to spare when you get out the other side of the building?) our MCCs were mutually at 50% shield and 100% armor.

After about 30 minutes of trying to crash the A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. guy's LAV's and tanks by eject crashing my LAV into him and his vehicles, and jarring his dropship enough to make him crash into the ground and almost blowing up, he hid, and I got bored. So I jumped into my LAV's missile turret and as though I were angrily shaking my fist at the CCP gods themselves, I began shooting the enemy MCC. And then I saw it...

Soon I started to notice that Their MCC had 1/2 a bar less then ours. As soon as my corp-mates confirmed what I saw (and believed me) they each chimed in calling lav's and Tanks, and now the enemy MCC was 3 bars less than ours! Even our A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. friend was a believer! I zealously drove my LAV around the map frantically searching for any large turret and quickly abandoned my old-faithful for the bigger stronger gun! We were going to be the first ones EVER! History in the making!!!! 11,000 + kills and 1 MCC. My camera ready to for the End of Battle screen to show everyone just how much damage I had done! What would happen? How many war points for killing an MCC???????

...

The last time I checked, the enemy MCC was around nine whole bars less than ours with only about 30% Armor remaining... and then, like a CCP bully with their arm extended, palm pushing back on my forehead while I swung my short, stubby arms as hard as I could, the CCP bully got bored. We were all suicided and ejected out of the game, no End of Match screen, no credit, no nothing. Thus ended my first day in Dust 514 version 1.4.


So shooting the MCC does help.

How did you manage to misspell the easiest corp name in Dust 514?

So while we were stuck in an Ashlands Domination with the only Null Cannon broken (blocked by the building) me and 3 of my corp-mates and one guy from A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. decided to test out the noob-theory. Since the only null-cannon was blocked and the entire red team rage quit (there may have been some redlining involved. Did you know you could run completely around most of the buildings in their redline, take a second or two to kill someone who has spawned in, and still have seconds to spare when you get out the other side of the building?) our MCCs were mutually at 50% shield and 100% armor.

After about 30 minutes of trying to crash the A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. guy's LAV's and tanks by eject crashing my LAV into him and his vehicles, and jarring his dropship enough to make him crash into the ground and almost blowing up, he hid, and I got bored. So I jumped into my LAV's missile turret and as though I were angrily shaking my fist at the CCP gods themselves, I began shooting the enemy MCC. And then I saw it...

Soon I started to notice that Their MCC had 1/2 a bar less then ours. As soon as my corp-mates confirmed what I saw (and believed me) they each chimed in calling lav's and Tanks, and now the enemy MCC was 3 bars less than ours! Even our A.N.O.N.A.M.O.U.S. friend was a believer! I zealously drove my LAV around the map frantically searching for any large turret and quickly abandoned my old-faithful for the bigger stronger gun! We were going to be the first ones EVER! History in the making!!!! 11,000 + kills and 1 MCC. My camera ready to for the End of Battle screen to show everyone just how much damage I had done! What would happen? How many war points for killing an MCC???????

...

The last time I checked, the enemy MCC was around nine whole bars less than ours with only about 30% Armor remaining... and then, like a CCP bully with their arm extended, palm pushing back on my forehead while I swung my short, stubby arms as hard as I could, the CCP bully got bored. We were all suicided and ejected out of the game, no End of Match screen, no credit, no nothing. Thus ended my first day in Dust 514 version 1.4.


So shooting the MCC does help.

You are aware bud, that MCCs are armed with mIssiles to shoot the other Mcc With right?

I doubt they'd let us have that much fun shooting MCCs again.

How did you manage to misspell the easiest corp name in Dust 514?

on purpose?

The extra damage was probably the result of a few null missiles from the cannon getting through.

So while we were stuck in an Ashlands Domination with the only Null Cannon broken (blocked by the building) me and 3 of my corp-mates and one guy from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. decided to test out the noob-theory. Since the only null-cannon was blocked and the entire red team rage quit (there may or may not have been some redlining involved. Did you know you could run completely around most of the buildings in their redline, take a second or two to kill someone who has spawned in, and still have seconds to spare when you get out the other side of the building?) our MCCs were mutually at 50% shield and 100% armor.

After about 30 minutes of trying to crash the A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. guy's LAV's and tanks by eject crashing my LAV into him and his vehicles, and jarring his dropship enough to make him crash into the ground and almost blowing up, he hid, and I got bored. So I jumped into my LAV's missile turret and as though I were angrily shaking my fist at the CCP gods themselves, I began shooting the enemy MCC. And then I saw it...

Soon I started to notice that Their MCC had 1/2 a bar less then ours. As soon as my corp-mates confirmed what I saw (and believed me) they each chimed in calling lav's and Tanks, and now the enemy MCC was 3 bars less than ours! Even our A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. friend was a believer! I zealously drove my LAV around the map frantically searching for any large turret and quickly abandoned my old-faithful for the bigger stronger gun! We were going to be the first ones EVER! History in the making!!!! 11,000 + kills and 1 MCC. My camera ready to for the End of Battle screen to show everyone just how much damage I had done! What would happen? How many war points for killing an MCC???????

...

The last time I checked, the enemy MCC was around nine whole bars less than ours with only about 30% Armor remaining... and then, like a CCP bully with their arm extended, palm pushing back on my forehead while I swung my short, stubby arms as hard as I could, the CCP bully got bored. We were all suicided and ejected out of the game, no End of Match screen, no credit, no nothing. Thus ended my first day in Dust 514 version 1.4.


So shooting the MCC does help.

around 150,000 give or take some mods.

This is interesting. I mean, the stats say you deal 0% damage when you aim at an mcc, so it really should be doing anything.


I'm going to forge snipe that thing to oblivion tomorrow.

Robin* "Holy cow batman i didn't know the mcc on your utility belt shot missiles to the enemy's mcc to weaken it."

Batman "Of course it does robin you should of realized this earlier with a simple tool called your eyes."

Robin* "Holy cow batman i didn't know the mcc on your utility belt shot missiles to the enemy's mcc to weaken it."

Batman "Of course it does robin you should of realized this earlier with a simple tool called your eyes."

We did this today too. A whole squad switched to rail gun tanks and we blew up the MCC. I have it on video.

It took 35-40min.

We did this today too. A whole squad switched to rail gun tanks and we blew up the MCC. I have it on video.

It took 35-40min.

You are going to post it right?

There are one or two maps where the heavy rail cannon installations can reach the mcc. And they can do damage. But only the rail cannon for some reason. And it does such a small fraction that its not worth it. Tested with MATH.

Missile tanks hurt it too. So do forge guns, blaster tanks, and anything with enough reach out and touch. But when you're doing damage in the thousand or so range against something with 4M shield/armor. Well, it takes a long... long... Flippin' time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NteiLmObh28&feature=youtube_gdata_player

This is the last 2 minutes. For claritys sake, their MCC health and ours were the same when we started. About 3 ticks off of full. You can see how much of a difference shooting it makes over a long period of time. And the video does show the post screen after you blow it up.

Spoiler, no unicorns. Sadly the payout didn't match the work involved. Truly an easter egg / trophy, couple million isk... 1 day booster... Something should have turned up for blowing up an MCC manually. It TAKES A LONG TIME.

1.4 makes me sad.

This used to be easily done back in closed beta. Thought it was removed.

Lol no it doesn't. I was shooting the MCC with my ADV large missile turret, and a squadmate was shooting with PRO large missiles. Didn't do a thing, even though all missiles hit every time and we had red hit markers.

Unless you're practically in the enemy redline, Missiles (yes, even from a Large Turret) explode before reaching the enemy MCC. Blaster rounds don't reach either. Railguns on the other hand...

Also, near the end days of Precursor, my girlfriend got a Sniper Rifle MCC kill.

So while we were stuck in an Ashlands Domination with the only Null Cannon broken (blocked by the building) me and 3 of my corp-mates and one guy from A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. decided to test out the noob-theory. Since the only null-cannon was blocked and the entire red team rage quit (there may or may not have been some redlining involved. Did you know you could run completely around most of the buildings in their redline, take a second or two to kill someone who has spawned in, and still have seconds to spare when you get out the other side of the building?) our MCCs were mutually at 50% shield and 100% armor.

After about 30 minutes of trying to crash the A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. guy's LAV's and tanks by eject crashing my LAV into him and his vehicles, and jarring his dropship enough to make him crash into the ground and almost blowing up, he hid, and I got bored. So I jumped into my LAV's missile turret and as though I were angrily shaking my fist at the CCP gods themselves, I began shooting the enemy MCC. And then I saw it...

Soon I started to notice that Their MCC had 1/2 a bar less then ours. As soon as my corp-mates confirmed what I saw (and believed me) they each chimed in calling lav's and Tanks, and now the enemy MCC was 3 bars less than ours! Even our A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. friend was a believer! I zealously drove my LAV around the map frantically searching for any large turret and quickly abandoned my old-faithful for the bigger stronger gun! We were going to be the first ones EVER! History in the making!!!! 11,000 + kills and 1 MCC. My camera ready to for the End of Battle screen to show everyone just how much damage I had done! What would happen? How many war points for killing an MCC???????

...

The last time I checked, the enemy MCC was around nine whole bars less than ours with only about 30% Armor remaining... and then, like a CCP bully with their arm extended, palm pushing back on my forehead while I swung my short, stubby arms as hard as I could, the CCP bully got bored. We were all suicided and ejected out of the game, no End of Match screen, no credit, no nothing. Thus ended my first day in Dust 514 version 1.4.


So shooting the MCC does help.

Dude have you played Ashlands Domination? you can be just about under the enemy MCC at the redline. Clearly I'm not wrong or we wouldn't have discovered this... Some people.

My point was that, on most maps, you have to move in pretty close to the enemy MCC before missiles will hit. I was actually backing you up against someone claiming that you were wrong, and pointing out that Missiles CAN reach, but often won't, and he was probably shooting from too far away when he tried it.

I've so far only been... uhhh... let's say "fortunate"... enough to play one Domination match on Ashland. It was while I was testing Shotguns to try and figure out what was wrong with them. So no, I haven't actually tried aiming for the enemy MCC on that map specifically, but in MOST maps, you need to get pretty close to the redline if you want a chance to hit the target.

Make sure to post a vid of you staring and shooting at the MCC "getting it damaged" so the rest of us can laugh at you. But don't believe anything I just wrote, I don't know what I am talking about...

Make sure to post a vid of you staring and shooting at the MCC "getting it damaged" so the rest of us can laugh at you. But don't believe anything I just wrote, I don't know what I am talking about...

The amount of damage you do is painfully low. They basically nerfed your ability to 'just shoot the MCC' most likely by raising the MCC health, and the null cannon damage to a specified amount higher than any team would be capable of dishing out assuming the game was working properly.

Actually, they just put ridiculous damage modifiers on every ground-based weapon when shooting the MCC, and didn't apply those modifiers to the MCC's weapons or NULL Cannons.

When they first made the change, they still had a permanently-visible "efficiency" rating that popped up on almost every weapon when using fine aim, and players could see the efficiency rating on targeting the MCC. For most weapons, it's 0%, with a few at 1 - 10% (Railguns I believe were at the 10% end of the scale)